My Thread for Advice, Guidance & Stupid Questions

aja8888

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Dec 25, 2007
Location
Texas..RETIRED 12/31/17
TDI
Out of TDI's
I haven't been here for a while (fresh out of TDI's), but reading Bus's experiences on his B5 reminded me of the years when I had two, yes TWO of these fine cars. I did everything he is doing and then some. I actually got so proficient at changing torn axle boots I could do it in 1 hour, round trip! LOL!

If you have the dreaded chain BSM, get rid of it! And thank God it didn't take out your engine already. :eek:
 

borninabus

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Location
Arizona
TDI
B5.5 Passat Wagon: RIP Chief Boy :-( 2013 JSW 6MT
continuing on my journey, the car started acting up again.

it started going into limp if i pushed it hard up a steep highway grade that i frequent. no biggie i thought, trans is old, just dont push it so hard. that worked for a while until it started coming out of lock, just like it did before TC replacement. i'm suspecting that the valve body pressure regulator is not doing its job and preventing the TC from locking fully? or the cam is fubar, or both? average fuel economy is +/- 30mpg.

i can keep it locked if i downshift on the grade and am easy on the gas. MIL is now on and here is the scan i just did:

Sunday,16,August,2020,19:51:38:02900
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWCE63B95E122591 License Plate:
Mileage: 241500km-150061mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 3B (3B - VW Passat B5 (1997 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77


VIN: WVWCE63B95E122591 Mileage: 241500km-150061miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BHW.lbl
Part No SW: 038 997 016 N HW: 028 101 198 2
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 1388
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D1153386
Coding: 0150034
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 290FF83725E99703245-5160

1 Fault Found:
16785 - EGR System
P0401 - 000 - Insufficient Flow - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1764 /min
Torque: 36.0 Nm
Speed: 71.0 km/h
Load: 12.5 %
Duty Cycle: 14.6 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 285.0 mg/str
Mass Air / Rev.: 525.0 mg/str

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 3B0 927 156 CF
Component: AG5 01V 2.0lPD USA 0505
Coding: 0001134
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 6C81C123EA9B422B9F3-5160

1 Fault Found:
17125 - Torque Converter Clutch
P0741 - 003 - Stuck OFF / No Power being transferred - MIL ON

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: None
VCID: 55F784C75C11E3E350D-51CE

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 C
Component: 09 AIRBAG VW61 04 0003
Coding: 12345
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 2411E90347CB4A6B173-513C

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 3B0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 3B0 920 929 C
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07
Coding: 13235
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 270BFE0F36FDA173321-513C
WVWCE63B95E122591 VWZ7Z0D1153386

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 70B9D553C3B3A6CBA3B-513C

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 80 Komfortgerát HLO 0004
Coding: 00258
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 372B2E4FE65D31F3A21-4B1E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
Component: 80 Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0202

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
Component: 80 Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0202

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
Component: 80 Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0202

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
Component: 80 Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0202

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
Component: Radio PM6 0016
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 2411E90347CB4A6B173-513C

No fault code found.

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have never seen the airbag code, but i killed the battery and had to jump it. i also had a rear caliper start leaking around the ebrake pivot so i've replaced that and bled the brakes. still fighting an EGR code i see as well. cleared all the codes and i'll see what comes back after some more miles.

i pulled the valve cover and took a look at what i could see of the cam. some bluing of the rocker rollers and some wear on the tips of the I/E lobe tips. looks like i'm in for a cam when it's TB time along with the addressing the BSM. $$$.

would really like to get the trans acting normal enough to limp it along through the needed repairs and maintenance and time it will take to save for the trans replacement in the more distant future (if that's possible).

any suggestions on what to look for and/or log in VCDS for a more accurate diagnosis will be much appreciated and followed up on as quickly as i can.
 
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thundershorts

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Jul 15, 2010
Location
west chester pa
TDI
2015 passat tdi sel premium 2015 golf s tdi gls tdi b5.5, 2002 eurovan,Peugeot 505 td,Citroen cx25 prestige
I don't remember how long you've had the tc, but first thing I'd do is call Eriksson. Its the first time I've heard of one or theirs failing.
 

Tom in PT

Veteran Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2017
Location
Twilight Zone, WA State
TDI
2005 Passat sedan - SOLD; 2013 Passat DSG; both purchased new
Have you pulled the EGR valve and seen if it is clogged? At 150,000 miles I imagine its in need of a good cleaning if it has not been cleaned before.
 

borninabus

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Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Location
Arizona
TDI
B5.5 Passat Wagon: RIP Chief Boy :-( 2013 JSW 6MT
i've had the TC for about 6 months. it was supplied by Precision of New Hampton. contacting both them and Erickson is on my to-do list regarding my lack of pressure theory.

i pulled the EGR and cleaned it pretty early on in my ownership. it was filthy and continued to throw a code (irregularly) even after being cleaned. i've pulled it out, tested it and it seems to function normally, but it's got me thinking now: could i be dealing with a clogged intake and/or EGR cooler?

the trans itself seems to function pretty well. it does not delay or engage harshly when shifting from P to R/D. it is a little clunky on shifts sometimes, but it has some miles on it. one weird thing it does is it takes a second or two to lock up in third & fourth gear under certain loads. the RPMs drop considerably, almost like a "ghost shift". it has done this through the entirety of my ownership even with the new TC. i have completely changed the ATF twice and the filter once and refilled it properly with ATF-1 and Max Life, respectively.

it will puff a small amount of white smoke when cold started but starts smooth since adjusting the timing which is @ 0-.5. i did notice it throwing some smoke once when pushing it up the steepest part of the 6% grade while the TC was out of lock.

thanks for the insight and keep it coming!
i am trying to provide all the pertinent info i can :)
 
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DeliveryValve

Veteran Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2007
Location
Western US
TDI
Passat GLS Wagon
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 3B0 927 156 CF
Component: AG5 01V 2.0lPD USA 0505
Coding: 0001134
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 6C81C123EA9B422B9F3-5160

1 Fault Found:
17125 - Torque Converter Clutch
P0741 - 003 - Stuck OFF / No Power being transferred - MIL ON
..

I hate to say this. But that usually means a new torque converter will fix this. I think you have another bad converter.
 

zzdiesel

Veteran Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2010
Location
sask. mostly now Wa.
TDI
05 passat tdi Geared BSM and Bewcam 2nd 2005 deleted ,converted and bew cam stage 2 Malone3 tune.
It is acting like a boost leak, but with no code for boost, must not be.
 

Tom in PT

Veteran Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2017
Location
Twilight Zone, WA State
TDI
2005 Passat sedan - SOLD; 2013 Passat DSG; both purchased new
Regarding "but it's got me thinking now: could i be dealing with a clogged intake and/or EGR cooler?"
When you pull the EGR valve you are looking directly into the intake. A coating of carbon on the walls of the intake is normal for the BHW; the intake in the BHW does not normally clog up bad like the older 2000 era engines like in my 2002 Jetta SW tdi (intake needed cleaning at 50,000 miles).

As far as a clogged EGR cooler, i don't know, only way to know for sure is to remove and inspect it.

A puff at white smoke at cold start is nothing to get worried about. Mine does that but otherwise runs great and burns no oil. I usually just turn the key to start down to 32 degrees F and don't wait for glow plug light to go off - seeing unburned fuel smoke as a result.
 
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borninabus

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Joined
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Location
Arizona
TDI
B5.5 Passat Wagon: RIP Chief Boy :-( 2013 JSW 6MT
I hate to say this. But that usually means a new torque converter will fix this. I think you have another bad converter.
i am aware of this but am not blaming the TC.
if the newly installed TC is has failed then something else is causing it.
 
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thundershorts

Top Post Dawg
Joined
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Location
west chester pa
TDI
2015 passat tdi sel premium 2015 golf s tdi gls tdi b5.5, 2002 eurovan,Peugeot 505 td,Citroen cx25 prestige
I seem to remember my Eriksson recomendation to you as the only ones that have zero problems. This time you might consider taking that advice. Maybe someone here has sent them some cores in the meantime. The converter you installed has failed and only fix is to replace it. Again, best not drive it till you do as you risk damage to the trans doing so and then the cost will be much higher.
 

thundershorts

Top Post Dawg
Joined
Jul 15, 2010
Location
west chester pa
TDI
2015 passat tdi sel premium 2015 golf s tdi gls tdi b5.5, 2002 eurovan,Peugeot 505 td,Citroen cx25 prestige
A fresh core, not one thats been tampered with is best for a successful rebuild so you could send them your original one.
 

borninabus

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Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Location
Arizona
TDI
B5.5 Passat Wagon: RIP Chief Boy :-( 2013 JSW 6MT
so, i guess this is where this journey ends for me.
i was rear-ended last night traveling home from a weekend of camping.
i am essentially unharmed, but the same cannot be said of my car and dog who are both dead as a result of the accident ?

as if it could be worse (it could have been), i had just had the BSM delete and a new cam installed days prior to the accident.
any help or opinions are welcomed as to how i might obtain the highest total value for the car.
150k BHW with (Cascade German supplied) BSM delete, BEW gear and BEW cam for sale!

thanks for looking and i have a funny feeling that i may be hanging around another part of these forums in the not-so-distant future.
 

Zambee500

Veteran Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2008
Location
Atlanta, GA
TDI
2005 Passat GLS TDI
Glad to hear you are essentially unharmed, but sorry to hear about your dog. They are family members, so that is tough. Cars are replaceable. Good luck with replacement car, and hang in there.
 

nicklockard

Torque Dorque
Joined
Aug 15, 2004
Location
Arizona
TDI
2010 Touareg Tdi w/factory Tow PCKG
Was going to loan you my VCDS, and then I read about your dog's passing. So sorry. My condolences.
 

borninabus

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Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Location
Arizona
TDI
B5.5 Passat Wagon: RIP Chief Boy :-( 2013 JSW 6MT
so the insurance co. has the car and now the valuation process begins. i have a bunch of receipts for parts (some of which are still in my garage) and labor that i had invested in the car.

just did the BSM, TB and new cam so i may consider buying the car back to sell the (low mile) engine on.

thinking about replacement ideas, the A platform might be more my size now and also more readily available. any suggestions? would consider another B5 wagon if the right one was out there too. definitely wanting another diesel though!

missing those torques....and my boy :confused:
 

borninabus

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Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Location
Arizona
TDI
B5.5 Passat Wagon: RIP Chief Boy :-( 2013 JSW 6MT
hey all.

just thought you might like to know that i have purchased the salvage rights to the car and will have a short time to part it out. i will need ths wheels and tires for my new JSW and also the rack cross bars. BHW with less than 150k and literally 200 miles on new BEW cam, TB and BSM delete available! will post in the classified section as time allows.



 

Mozambiquer

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Location
Versailles Missouri
TDI
1998 VW Jetta TDI. 1982 VW Rabbit pickup, 2001 VW Jetta TDI
hey all.

just thought you might like to know that i have purchased the salvage rights to the car and will have a short time to part it out. i will need ths wheels and tires for my new JSW and also the rack cross bars. BHW with less than 150k and literally 200 miles on new BEW cam, TB and BSM delete available! will post in the classified section as time allows.



Wow, that thing got smashed!
 
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