Mods to make a golf tdi handle like a gti?

ColeCoryell

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Hi all, This is my First post as I just got my 2015 VW golf TDI a few weeks ago. I used to have a gen 7 GTI and I’d like to get the tdi to handle more like it. I’m guessing I will need to change the shocks, springs, sway bars, and wheels. If you’ve done this, I would really appreciate it if you could summarize your project and results. Thanks
 
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You nailed the entire list! I mean the cars are a little different in size and weights but with those upgrades you’ll get there. Make sure to not go cheap on the front suspension.
 

Mongler98

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Sell your car... buy a gti. Or spend more than the value of your car to pretend it is one.
 

ColeCoryell

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Sell your car... buy a gti. Or spend more than the value of your car to pretend it is one.
This is snarky and factually incorrect as to my goals and the cost of upgrades. So why even reply? There are some simple mods that can really improve the handling. I know, I’ve done it on other cars. My tdi has 27k miles, and I plan to keep it a while. So now I’ve educated you.
 

turbobrick240

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You could get a 2014 Golf to handle exactly like a GTI without too much expense, but a 2015 won't quite get there due to the lack of IRS. Should be able to get fairly close with the right springs, shocks, sway bar etc., though.
 

Mongler98

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98 Jetta TDI AHU 1.9L (944 TDI swap in progress) I moved so now i got nothing but an AHU in a garage on a pallet.
This is snarky and factually incorrect as to my goals and the cost of upgrades. So why even reply? There are some simple mods that can really improve the handling. I know, I’ve done it on other cars. My tdi has 27k miles, and I plan to keep it a while. So now I’ve educated you.
Your goal is to make a car become another car. The cost difference of those 2 cars is less than the modifications to do so.
If you want to get the most of your ride... for whatever reason is unknown to us..... autocross? Track? Ralley? Daily driver..... idiot at car meetups and backroads....
My guess is idiot on the backroads and whoopdydoos in school zones

Just get sticky tires...
You dont poses the skills to use the suspention of one car vs the next to its potential.

#1 upgrade for you is to learn how to drive a car. Go to a few events of autocross. You will learn that you have no clue how to handle one car over another.
My mk3 with a all the epic suspention and tires got destroyed by a forester with all season tires by a full second. Why.. I was green. I had no idea.
Want to go the fastest in autocross... miatta, tesla, Carrera, reliably top 3 every time.
Everyone else is hashing out for between 5th and 20th within 1 second. Your gti dreams are only for one reason.. what you think you need it for.
Is your time worthless? Otherwise just buy what you want. Or keep pretending
 
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turbobrick240

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I just put a set of Vogtland sport springs and Bilstein sport shocks/struts/mounts on my mk6. Handles like a mk6 GTI now, maybe a bit better. Also 17x8" rims with a bit more outboard offset than OE. And inexpensive summer tires with good grip but not great durability. Thought about coilovers but the sport springs and Bilsteins fit my budget better.
 

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This is snarky and factually incorrect as to my goals and the cost of upgrades. So why even reply? There are some simple mods that can really improve the handling. I know, I’ve done it on other cars. My tdi has 27k miles, and I plan to keep it a while. So now I’ve educated you.
You have met mongler... he's got his opinions which may or may not be right, and he loves to share them. 🙄
 

ColeCoryell

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Your goal is to make a car become another car. The cost difference of those 2 cars is less than the modifications to do so.
If you want to get the most of your ride... for whatever reason is unknown to us..... autocross? Track? Ralley? Daily driver..... idiot at car meetups and backroads....
My guess is idiot on the backroads and whoopdydoos in school zones

Just get sticky tires...
You dont poses the skills to use the suspention of one car vs the next to its potential.

#1 upgrade for you is to learn how to drive a car. Go to a few events of autocross. You will learn that you have no clue how to handle one car over another.
My mk3 with a all the epic suspention and tires got destroyed by a forester with all season tires by a full second. Why.. I was green. I had no idea.
Want to go the fastest in autocross... miatta, tesla, Carrera, reliably top 3 every time.
Everyone else is hashing out for between 5th and 20th within 1 second. Your gti dreams are only for one reason.. what you think you need it for.
Is your time worthless? Otherwise just buy what you want. Or keep pretending
What’s with the attitude? I have no gti dreams. I had a gti. It was great fun, and the same generation so I know more or less what my tdi can handle like. It’s not a different car. I have a different car that I would take to a track day or for HPDE. I just would like my daily to handle a little better.
 

gearheadgrrrl

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No reason you can't give a TDI at least 90% of a GTI's performance, they share at least 90% of the same parts for a start. While the Golf7 TDI didn't get the IRS like the GTI, on smooth roads they'll be little difference. Front end is the same, and most any better bits the GTI got can be retrofitted to a TDI. As for power, the GTI has us beat in peak power, but we got the torque!
 

ColeCoryell

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I just put a set of Vogtland sport springs and Bilstein sport shocks/struts/mounts on my mk6. Handles like a mk6 GTI now, maybe a bit better. Also 17x8" rims with a bit more outboard offset than OE. And inexpensive summer tires with good grip but not great durability. Thought about coilovers but the sport springs and Bilsteins fit my budget better.
Thank you for this appropriate:) response. It’s appreciated. Coil overs are overkill for my thinking. But shocks, springs, and maybe a thicker rear sway bar…
 

gearheadgrrrl

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No problem, I've got the same car and tempted to AutoX it, so I'm looking for low $$$ upgrades that will still keep me in stock class. TDIs fall into SCCA's slowest class, H stock, and it doesn't seem super competitive so the TDI has a chance. I live in southwest Minnesota so the Lincoln airport where SCCA has a lot of national competitions is within day trip range, drove down Memorial Day weekend and saw the GTIs doing well one class up in G Stock so the TDI should be competitive enough.
 

Golf Wang

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Sell your car... buy a gti. Or spend more than the value of your car to pretend it is one.
it’s a 2015 MK7/MQB platform Golf - he can make his car into a faux GTI with just as much / torque and just as good of handling for as little as $2-3K all-in
 

Golf Wang

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Your goal is to make a car become another car. The cost difference of those 2 cars is less than the modifications to do so.
If you want to get the most of your ride... for whatever reason is unknown to us..... autocross? Track? Ralley? Daily driver..... idiot at car meetups and backroads....
My guess is idiot on the backroads and whoopdydoos in school zones

Just get sticky tires...
You dont poses the skills to use the suspention of one car vs the next to its potential.

#1 upgrade for you is to learn how to drive a car. Go to a few events of autocross. You will learn that you have no clue how to handle one car over another.
My mk3 with a all the epic suspention and tires got destroyed by a forester with all season tires by a full second. Why.. I was green. I had no idea.
Want to go the fastest in autocross... miatta, tesla, Carrera, reliably top 3 every time.
Everyone else is hashing out for between 5th and 20th within 1 second. Your gti dreams are only for one reason.. what you think you need it for.
Is your time worthless? Otherwise just buy what you want. Or keep pretending
you are incorrect
 

IndigoBlueWagon

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I'd start with 18" wheels with good summer tires. And have the car aligned with as much negative camber in front as possible. I think you might be pleasantly surprised by the improvement with those changes alone.
 

hooville

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Welcome to the Club!
The only RSB that's available for the MK7 TDI's that I know of is from Neuspeed. We put one on the wife's Sportwagen S and she loves it, but you lose about 1" of ground clearance since it mounts under the axle. We went with 17" wheels and 225/45/17 Michelin AS3+ tires because it's her daily on Atlanta roads, but ditto IBW's comment above: tires are the biggest bang for the buck.
 
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