MN Chat Thread

[JFettig]

B.Reilly, if its just a small crack and you want to pull the pan and clean it up real good, I can weld it up for you

The hybrid pan won't save you in many circumstances.

 

[B.Reilly01]

Packethauler, thank you, we're nearly done with the homestudy, then it takes up to 6 months to prepare the dossier for the other country and file with Immigration. Then up to 18 months to get matched, or a couple of weeks (they're very inconsistent on wait times). Once matched we have 6 weeks to get in country, where I have to be there for 60 days and my wife will have to stay for up to 8 months. All said it could be 2 or more years ( or as little as 6 months) until we travel, then my wife will be out of work for atleast a year (she's a teacher). Thankfully we have all the (known) fees already saved for, we just need to raise enough to support 2 houses for a year with 1 less income and a 60 day complete lack of income. It isn't an easy road, but I must bring my children home. The wait is agonizing, knowing that my children, whoever they are, are sitting in an orphanage, not getting the full love they deserve.

JFettig, thank you for the offer, I did order a pan already and I'm going to try to get my current pan welded at work (I'm an engineer and we have full manufacturing on site, so we have a good TIG welder). Then I'll have a backup for if it happens again before "Summer" assuming summer happens this year. Then I'll bend up a steel plate for a skid, but since I'm working outside I want to wait until it's not snowy or melty to get a template for the skidplate.

 

[don f]

we are looking for a tdi mechanic to work on our 2005 Passat tdi it goes into limp mode when driving down the freeway recycle the key and it takes off like nothing is wrong a local import shop tells me the turbo needs to be replaced we are in the north east metro in Scandia mn . thanks don

 

[B.Reilly01]

Don, JFettig is in Forest Lake, but I don't know if he does repairs or just tunes, he's just above in this thread. There's also Merkerguitars (Eric Merker) in Hudson at Midwest Motorworks, everyone recommends him. Greengeeker is out of Cambridge. Do you know what the code actually was? I'm going to guess it was either boost deviation high or low. It could be as simple as an actuator, but I think you have the KP-39 turbo with the "smart actuator" that isn't sold separately from the turbo. I'm actually running a KP-39 with a smart actuator but not using the feedback from the smart actuator. I don't know if there is a solution that maintains feedback without complete turbo replacement, in which case you should go to a VNT-17.

 

[don f]

thanks for your information no they couldn't remember the code they just said replace the turbo is what his buddy down at the vw dealer told him. I don't trust that dealer. also have a oil leek and timing belt is dew to be changed again pushing 200k

 

[JFettig]

I can check out your turbo issue next week if you want. I bet its fine and has a simple fix!

 

[don f]

that would be great I will pm you my number,thanks

 

[B.Reilly01]

The new sump won't be in until next week, and I want my Beetle back sooner, so the guys at work gave it a go with the TIG. Tonight I'll hopefully get to leak check it and then mount it tomorrow.

 

[DizelDvica]

I am looking for some help, direction, advice for my 2010 Jetta TDI issue.
It started several months ago with intermitent MIL light comming on and off. It would come on at highway driving and go off in the city. Now it is on all the time.
I had look at codes and two that are comming back are first and last in bellow list:

VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 019 CM HW: 03L 906 022 TS
Component and/or Version: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 7967
Software Coding: 0050078
Work Shop Code: WSC 52296 000 1048576
VCID: 78F5F8000BC09BDEAC3-802D
4 Faults Found:
009235 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
P2413 - 000 - Performance Malfunction - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 30795 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.16 V
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Temperature: 97.2°C
Bin. Bits: 00000000
000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 30852 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2030.14.24
Time: 16:49:34
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2300 /min
Speed: 72.0 km/h
Load: 62.4 %
Absolute Pres.: 2376.6 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1764.6 mbar
Lambda: 91.5 %
Lambda: 91.5 %
000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 - 000 - Control Range Not Reached - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 30852 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2030.14.24
Time: 16:49:34
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2300 /min
Speed: 72.0 km/h
Load: 62.4 %
Absolute Pres.: 2376.6 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 1764.6 mbar
Lambda: 91.5 %
Lambda: 91.5 %
001025 - EGR System
P0401 - 000 - Insufficient Flow - Intermittent - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 30820 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2030.14.24
Time: 07:20:55
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1886 /min
Speed: 95.0 km/h
Voltage: 14.21 V
Load: 95.7 %
Load: 100.0 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 625.0 mg/str
Mass Air / Rev.: 595.0 mg/str

Readiness: 1 2 0 0 0

Any suggestions to what can I check?
I am puzzled to what 009235 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
P2413 - 000 - Performance Malfunction - MIL ON
does mean?
Thanks.

 

[JFettig]

Looks like low miles, do you have warranty left? Possibly turbo actuator related. Log engine group 11

 

[greengeeker]

Any boost leaks?

 

[DizelDvica]

Thanks for the input greengeeker and JFetting.
Low miles, no warranty, this is rebuilder.....prior salvage...no warranty.
I got the car with only 1000 miles 3 years ago, rebuilt it and had no other issues till this one, in last 1500 miles. I am sure that this is not related to prior damage. Engine had no damage at that time.
No boost leaks as far as I can tell. Boost Codes show once car is in limp mode, I think that they are side efect of limp mode.
It drives fine for miles and then MIL flashes and it goes into limp mode. Restart engine and all is reset for time being.
Only code that is persistent is 009235 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
P2413 - 000 - Performance Malfunction - MIL ON
That one is back within few miles. Limp mode follows it almost every time now. Used to be, random, now it is every time I drive.
Car is driven on interstate often, so it is not lack of engine run time or enough heat for recirculation.
I have VCDS and are handy with it, but this one has been puzzling me.

One thing I did not try yet is to force exaust gas recirculation via VCDS and see if that will clear issue, but it still does not point to why would it have issue in first place.

Thanks..

 

[JFettig]

You're going to have to do a little more diagnosis than just codes, check vacuum supplies, see if turbo is working(see group 11 in VCDS engine module), etc.

 

[Minnesota Mike]

Limp mode. I had similar problems with my 02 ALH with the Garrett turbo. My friend at Further Performance figured the veins on the turbo blades were sticking, He advised me to get the motor to temp and find an uphill road and run it hard. Keeping the boost high would help free the carbon from the blades. I tried it a few times and it NEVER went to limp mode again. He told me to do this once in a while.

 

[1st_TDI:)]

Limp mode. I had similar problems with my 02 ALH with the Garrett turbo. My friend at Further Performance figured the veins on the turbo blades were sticking, He advised me to get the motor to temp and find an uphill road and run it hard. Keeping the boost high would help free the carbon from the blades. I tried it a few times and it NEVER went to limp mode again. He told me to do this once in a while.

Drive it like you stole it
Works for me.... Most the time

 

[Losha]

I am looking for some help, direction, advice for my 2010 Jetta TDI issue.
It started several months ago with intermitent MIL light comming on and off. It would come on at highway driving and go off in the city. Now it is on all the time.
I had look at codes and two that are comming back are first and last in bellow list:

Readiness: 1 2 0 0 0

Any suggestions to what can I check?
I am puzzled to what 009235 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
P2413 - 000 - Performance Malfunction - MIL ON
does mean?
Thanks.

Most likely your Low pressure EGR filter is clogged up and needs of replacement or cleaned. Its a round can sit in back of engine by passenger side axle flange lower of turbo. They commonly clog up over time from soot accumulated, not sure if city driving has much more effect then highway, but most commonly issue with DPF clogging is due to from city driving and short trips where engine doesnt get up to hot operating temps.

 

[teufelhunden]

Tire question: Anyone ever run Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport or Pirelli's P Zero Rosso tires? I ran the Continental EC DWS on my prior 03 Jetta. Liked them but thought I'd shop around anyhow. I can get either at a really reasonable price. Just ordered a new set of MoMo's and need to make a tire decision before they show up next week.

 

[sirpuddingfoot]

Can't say that I have. I actually really like the Nitto Neogens on my mk4.

 

[teufelhunden]

Can't say that I have. I actually really like the Nitto Neogens on my mk4.

Never run the Nitto's, but keep hearing how much people like them. I'll check as the discount tire guy also had good things to say.

 

[DizelDvica]

Most likely your Low pressure EGR filter is clogged up and needs of replacement or cleaned. Its a round can sit in back of engine by passenger side axle flange lower of turbo. They commonly clog up over time from soot accumulated, not sure if city driving has much more effect then highway, but most commonly issue with DPF clogging is due to from city driving and short trips where engine doesnt get up to hot operating temps.

Thanks Losha
That is great point. I'll get to the EGR filter this weekend and clean it. I just performed couple more tests today and performed forced DPF cycle cleaning.
Below code for insufficient EGR flow seems to be only one that keeps coming back. No more limp mode either. I'll clean EGR system and EGR filter and that should do it.
Let you guys know.....

Thursday,13,March,2014,21:29:30:05072
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2 (x64)
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 019 CM HW: 03L 906 022 TS
Component and/or Version: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 7967
Software Coding: 0050078
Work Shop Code: WSC 52296 000 1048576
VCID: 78F5F8000BC09BDEA37-802D
1 Fault Found:
001025 - EGR System
P0401 - 000 - Insufficient Flow - Intermittent - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 30915 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2036.14.03
Time: 20:08:00
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1472 /min
Speed: 74.0 km/h
Voltage: 13.68 V
Load: 95.7 %
Load: 100.0 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 580.0 mg/str
Mass Air / Rev.: 595.0 mg/str

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

 

[TornadoRed]

Tire question: Anyone ever run Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport or Pirelli's P Zero Rosso tires? I ran the Continental EC DWS on my prior 03 Jetta. Liked them but thought I'd shop around anyhow. I can get either at a really reasonable price. Just ordered a new set of MoMo's and need to make a tire decision before they show up next week.

In June 2007 I bought and mounted a set of Bridgestone Potenza G009's. I do not know how they compare to the Potenza RE760.

I don't remember why, but I replaced two of the Potenzas about five months later, with only about 22k miles. Then, in early summer 2008 I switched over to a set of 16" Michelin Energy tires, because the Potenzas were costing me about 3 or 4 mpg and that was the summer of $5.00 diesel. The Potenzas still had quite a lot of tread remaining, so it was not an easy decision to dump them.

The Potenzas were very nice when new, but somewhat harsh and noisy toward the end. I was running them when I traveled through Colorado during a blizzard, and they worked okay in moderately deep snow. The Potenzas were inexpensive compared to Michelins, but I think you get what you pay for.

I would not buy them again, as I prefer an all-season tire with a non-directional tread; I like being able to rotate side-to-side as well as front-to-back.

 

[SkeeterMark]

Shout out to the guys at Midwest Motorworks.

Thanks for the great maintenance service at a great price. Everything is perfect and it's nice not to have any worries regarding service. And yes, you impressed the wife as well, as you could probably tell since she wants to bring her car in. Well worth the 75 mile drive.

+1 from me on the trusted mechanics list!

 

[teufelhunden]

In June 2007 I bought and mounted a set of Bridgestone Potenza G009's. I do not know how they compare to the Potenza RE760.
I don't remember why, but I replaced two of the Potenzas about five months later, with only about 22k miles. Then, in early summer 2008 I switched over to a set of 16" Michelin Energy tires, because the Potenzas were costing me about 3 or 4 mpg and that was the summer of $5.00 diesel. The Potenzas still had quite a lot of tread remaining, so it was not an easy decision to dump them.
The Potenzas were very nice when new, but somewhat harsh and noisy toward the end. I was running them when I traveled through Colorado during a blizzard, and they worked okay in moderately deep snow. The Potenzas were inexpensive compared to Michelins, but I think you get what you pay for.
I would not buy them again, as I prefer an all-season tire with a non-directional tread; I like being able to rotate side-to-side as well as front-to-back.

That's great input.. Thanks!

 

[B.Reilly01]

I've always been a fan of Michelins, especially when I was a tire tech. Even when I was a Goodyear dealer we all accepted that Michelins were the top of the line. After Michelins came brand loyalty (Goodyear, Dunlop, Kelley) but that was the line we were sold.

 

[Redlabel6]

Speaking of Tires...

Now that winter is (mostly) over, I want to start looking for a set of wheels for the Passat to put snow tires on for next winter. I currently have the 17" wheels, I have read where 16" or even 15" will work fine on it. Does anyone have experience/Input on that?

Thanks!

David

 

[merkerguitars]

Now that winter is (mostly) over, I want to start looking for a set of wheels for the Passat to put snow tires on for next winter. I currently have the 17" wheels, I have read where 16" or even 15" will work fine on it. Does anyone have experience/Input on that?

Thanks!

David

Both should fit with stock brakes , only oem 15s will clear. Aftermarket steelies dont clear those style calipers.

 

[greengeeker]

As it turns out, the issue that I have with my Golf is that the injection pump has leaky seals. I went to change them per the directions from Diesel Geeks and Youtube, and ran into a bit of an issues. When I went to manually advance the engine, the timing belt slipped an unknown number of teeth because the belt had too much slack in it (on the top, it has free play of about 3/4"). Not good. But... I'm trying to keep an optimistic. At least this didn't happen under power and produce a catastrophic failure.
While I'm willing to take on a couple of seals in a readily accessible pump, I don't have the tools or patience at this time in my life to tackle the timing belt. So it will be sitting a while. On the plus side, I did get the two top seals replaced. After I primed the injector pump, I noticed that I need to get the solenoid seal done as well.
Live and learn I guess.
Clearly Einsteins theory of relativity works in the "good" and "bad" category too

Well Pete's car turned out to be an interesting story. I'd like to meet the previous owner of his 4dr tornado red golf (likely a club member of some sort as it has several small mods) if only to punch him in the groin.
Anyway, somehow during the last timing belt change (quality tools, very questionable craftsmanship) the PO broke the vertical engine mount bolt which unbelievably ended up in the timing belt path.
Here is what I was greeted with once I pulled the lower timing belt covers:


Notice anything out of place?


I suppose since this bolt is so massive it couldn't really get lodged anywhere causing immediate destruction of the motor - a valve cover bolt dropped into the timing belt area would possibly get between the belt and sprocket causing it to skip time and/or immediate damage to the tensioner.

And here's the groove worn into the large idler by the bolt:


And the end result was a tooefed tensioner. I can't believe this waited until Pete was rotating the engine over by hand before it finally broke. He seriously needs to go buy a lottery ticket.

 

[sirpuddingfoot]

Now that winter is (mostly) over, I want to start looking for a set of wheels for the Passat to put snow tires on for next winter. I currently have the 17" wheels, I have read where 16" or even 15" will work fine on it. Does anyone have experience/Input on that?

Thanks!

David

I put 15s from tire rack on our passat. They're great and much lighter than the bistars.

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[haakonpe]

I can't believe this waited until Pete was rotating the engine over by hand before it finally broke. He seriously needs to go buy a lottery ticket.

Nick - Thanks for all the work! It ran smooth as silk on the way home.

 

[JFettig]

Nick - Thanks for all the work! It ran smooth as silk on the way home.

Don't forget to clean those vanes! Your turbo is way too clogged to do an Italian tune up!