MkV / MkVI Bluetooth FAQ (Updated 12/30/2010)

dzcad90

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OK. I just read all of this and I am not sure I understand it. I just took delivery of a 2011 Sportwagen. Paired my phone to the cars bluetooth. I can make voice activated calls but am not sure if I have caller id because no one has called me in while in the car yet.

Problem is: The vehicle will not download my phone contacts. Had the service guy look at it. He paired HIS cell phone to the vehicle and it saw his contacts.

Checked the VW website and my phone (Droid 2 Global) is listed as compatible.

So, am I reading that I have to take it back to the dealer and have them "fix the code" ???
If his contacts popped up on the MFD then your bluetooth module is coded properly. The issue likely lies in your phone. It could be that the version of software on your phone is not compatible with the BT module in your car, or at least compatible enough to send contacts. It could also be that you have not granted permission on your phone for a contacts transfer to the car. One other thing I have seen is that some phones will only sync contacts that are local to the phone - if you have contacts that are being synced via Microsoft ActivSync (i.e. from your work Exchange email account) or your Google Contacts that are managed online, depending on the phone and software, these contacts may not be eligible to transfer via Bluetooth. Do any of these scenarios sound like it might be the case?

There's LOTS of variables when it comes to BT sync. Play with it for a while and see.
 

FLSprtswgn

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If his contacts popped up on the MFD then your bluetooth module is coded properly. The issue likely lies in your phone.

There's LOTS of variables when it comes to BT sync. Play with it for a while and see.
Finally got it to see my phone and the contacts were downloaded. Don't ask me how I did it. I just kept playing around with the settings on my phone, cleared all the settings on the jetta bluetooth and somehow, it found my contacts.:D

One of those cases where I got lucky....Thanks for your input.
 

Wolfi

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Thanks for your detailed info. I am located in Canada and got a 2010 Golf Wagon (Highline) with the RCD 510 Stereo. It has the MFSTW and the white large MFD (there are no phone buttons in the overhead Sunroof control unit), however it does not have the 9W2 BT module installed, as a fact it does not have any BT Module installed. I did not see any box or cable harness under my seat (just the heated seat connections etc.)
Would like to add the 9W7 BT module, however I am unable to find anywhere directions on how to install this unit. If anyone ever installed a 9W7 into the 2010 Golf Wagon please let me know. (It is not the swap of the 9W2 to 9W7, I am looking for).
Can purchase the BT Module Kit from Spain or Poland, which looks as if it has the microphone and the cables with it. Just do not know where all the cables go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Blue...itemZ320657744680QQptZOtherQ5fVehicleQ5fParts
Bluetooth VW RNS 510 9W7 UHV/RSAP AD2P / 5K0035730
Please help. Thank you
 

Boatman

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'11 Jetta, '04 Sprinter, '14 GLK 250
I've scanned through a bunch of stuff related to the BT and didn't really find what I'm looking for..... My wife has a '10 JSW with the standard BT. The quality of the sound is horrible and often times there is a ton of "feedback" to the point that she often has to go handheld. Talked to VW about this and of course they say there is nothing that can be done. She called around yesterday and found a place near DC (where she is stationed) that will upgrade to the next level (unit with nav that she wanted in the first palce) and they are confident that this will help with the problem.

Any thoughts would be appreciated before spending the large sum of Benjamins???

Thanks
 

Parva

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Now have a '13 Beetle Turbo, had a '10 Jetta Sportwagen TDI
Has anyone experienced issues w/ an iPhone 4G not connecting correctly to both bluetooth & bluetooth audio in a '10 JSWTDi w/ the RCD510?

My old iPhone 3G worked 100% all the time prior to upgrading to the 4G. My wife's 3GS also works 100% w/ all the bluetooth & bluetooth audio connections. I've repeatedly re-paired the 4G and each time it works fine the 1st time -- it'll pair 7 then play bluetooth audio & even receive calls through the speakers. Then after its been unplugged, (or even just removed from the car) it doesn't reconnect until I re-pair it.

The 4G actually has some bluetooth connectivity to the RCD510 -- it'll play the ringtone when an incoming call occurs but it won't answer via the steering wheel controls &/or do voice through the speakers. The 4G also has no problem doing iPod playback through the VW supplied iPhone cable from the center console.

Is it likely that something is wrong with the iPhone 4G Bluetooth circuitry or is there something else I'm doing wrong?
 

dzcad90

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Has anyone experienced issues w/ an iPhone 4G not connecting correctly to both bluetooth & bluetooth audio in a '10 JSWTDi w/ the RCD510?
My old iPhone 3G worked 100% all the time prior to upgrading to the 4G. My wife's 3GS also works 100% w/ all the bluetooth & bluetooth audio connections. I've repeatedly re-paired the 4G and each time it works fine the 1st time -- it'll pair 7 then play bluetooth audio & even receive calls through the speakers. Then after its been unplugged, (or even just removed from the car) it doesn't reconnect until I re-pair it.
The 4G actually has some bluetooth connectivity to the RCD510 -- it'll play the ringtone when an incoming call occurs but it won't answer via the steering wheel controls &/or do voice through the speakers. The 4G also has no problem doing iPod playback through the VW supplied iPhone cable from the center console.
Is it likely that something is wrong with the iPhone 4G Bluetooth circuitry or is there something else I'm doing wrong?
What iOS version is your iPhone 4 running? Is it the GSM or CDMA version?
 

dzcad90

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Jetta - 97 (RIP), '03 (Sold), '09
I've scanned through a bunch of stuff related to the BT and didn't really find what I'm looking for..... My wife has a '10 JSW with the standard BT. The quality of the sound is horrible and often times there is a ton of "feedback" to the point that she often has to go handheld. Talked to VW about this and of course they say there is nothing that can be done. She called around yesterday and found a place near DC (where she is stationed) that will upgrade to the next level (unit with nav that she wanted in the first palce) and they are confident that this will help with the problem.

Any thoughts would be appreciated before spending the large sum of Benjamins???

Thanks
Swapping the head unit will likely have little effect on the BT systems audio characteristics. What kind of phone is giving this difficulty and have you had other phones paired and working properly?
 

Parva

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Now have a '13 Beetle Turbo, had a '10 Jetta Sportwagen TDI
What iOS version is your iPhone 4 running? Is it the GSM or CDMA version?
The iPhone is presently running iOS 4.3 -- could update it to 4.3.2 if one thinks that could make a difference. & it's AT&T so, its a GSM phone.

Any reason to think that versioning might be part of the problem?
 

Boatman

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Swapping the head unit will likely have little effect on the BT systems audio characteristics. What kind of phone is giving this difficulty and have you had other phones paired and working properly?

She's using an iPhone 3GS right now but it's had the same issues with every phone it's paired to.
 

myriad

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2010 Golf Wagon
RNS 510 & 9W7 New install question

I posted this in another thread but I am thinking this might be a better place:
I just installed the RNS510 (upgraded from Premium 8) and did a new install of the 9W7 (no prior BT before) on a 2010 Golf wagon. Everything went pretty easily (thanks to all the helpful posts here) and it all seems to work except for the Bluetooth functionality. The RNS sees the BT and I even called 911 (by mistake) and the operator answered, so I know it is functioning, but it won't allow you to add phones. Now I have done no Vag Com programming yet as I don't have access to one and I am wondering; do you HAVE to program the new install with VagCom before the bluetooth will work properly?
 
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madmako

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Poor Bluetooth Voice Quality

I have a BlackBerry Storm2 paired with my new '11 JSW, (build 1/24/11) I get a LOT of complaints from those I'm speaking to on the other end. They claim my voice is tinny, scratchy and simply poor quality. More often than not, I disconnect BT and just speak to the other party via the BlackBerry speakerphone.

Due to the number of variables, I'm not sure if it's a VW issue, Verizon, BlackBerry, or some Bluetooth stack incompatibility issue.

I suppose I could find another BT enabled phone to test to compare differences. Short of that, what other diagnostic aid is there to isolate the issue? Or, do I just shrug and end with a "Bluetooth Sucks."?
 

Boatman

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I have a BlackBerry Storm2 paired with my new '11 JSW, (build 1/24/11) I get a LOT of complaints from those I'm speaking to on the other end. They claim my voice is tinny, scratchy and simply poor quality. More often than not, I disconnect BT and just speak to the other party via the BlackBerry speakerphone.

Due to the number of variables, I'm not sure if it's a VW issue, Verizon, BlackBerry, or some Bluetooth stack incompatibility issue.

I suppose I could find another BT enabled phone to test to compare differences. Short of that, what other diagnostic aid is there to isolate the issue? Or, do I just shrug and end with a "Bluetooth Sucks."?

That's what my wife is dealing with also. She uses an iPhone.

Not only is her voice tinny,,, but the whoever is calling her at times gets some sort of feedback when THEY are trying to talk. She's tried a couple differnet phones with the same results.
 

tvmaster

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RNS-510 Firmware

I am still having problems with the RNS-510 and connected iPod kit from VW hesitating at the top of songs and losing connectivity with the ipod itself.
As far as Bluetooth, I too have the updated BT module installed from June 2010.
Has there been a firmware update since that time for the RNS-510, and if so, what's the revision number. I am hoping this may fix the ipod issues while not affecting the the updated BT coding we did at the dealership.
 

Newmarketca

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2010 Golf TDI 9WX bluetooth

Thanks for your detailed info. I am located in Canada and got a 2010 Golf Wagon (Highline) with the RCD 510 Stereo. It has the MFSTW and the white large MFD (there are no phone buttons in the overhead Sunroof control unit), however it does not have the 9W2 BT module installed, as a fact it does not have any BT Module installed. I did not see any box or cable harness under my seat (just the heated seat connections etc.)
Would like to add the 9W7 BT module, however I am unable to find anywhere directions on how to install this unit. If anyone ever installed a 9W7 into the 2010 Golf Wagon please let me know. (It is not the swap of the 9W2 to 9W7, I am looking for).
Can purchase the BT Module Kit from Spain or Poland, which looks as if it has the microphone and the cables with it. Just do not know where all the cables go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Blue...itemZ320657744680QQptZOtherQ5fVehicleQ5fParts
Bluetooth VW RNS 510 9W7 UHV/RSAP AD2P / 5K0035730
Please help. Thank you
Hi

I have a 2010 Golf TDI wagon that came without any phone unit. Purchased a 9W3 from Poland with all of the cables and antenna etc. Pickering VW was willing to install it for me and learned how (at my expense) to install and redue all of the coding. My MFD and all the buttons work perfectly. I am very happy with the insatlation. Ask for their service manager as he understands the process.

Mike
 

bbmd

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TDIClub Bluetooth FAQ (Updated 12/30/2010 - Look at new 9W7 info)

There seems to be a lot of questions that recur on a regular basis regarding the Bluetooth option that is availalbe in the '09 and '10 Jetta and JSW. If you have retrofit Bluetooth in your car, some of this information may pertain to you as well. I will admit I don't know it all on this subject. If you see mis(sing) information, please let me know and I'll update or correct the FAQ. I don't have a lot of info on cars outside of the USA, so if anyone else wants to add information, replay I will add the info to the FAQ.

These questions have been answered in a number of threads that sometimes drag on for pages. This is simply an effort to consolidate the information that is available.

Thank you to the countless members and forums that I have gathered this information from. Special thanks to SeaBear for providing the coding to enable the MFD Phone menu on the 2010 Jetta Sedan!

What can the BT function in my car do?

That's what this FAQ is here to address. The answer may be as simple as it only acts as a hands free, to something complex like downloading of the phone book to display on the instrument cluster and on the screen of the Navigation unit. Much of the "depends" depends on the equipment in your car.

There's up to four components in your car's BT system, and two are required. The two required components are the BT module, and something to control it. Most commonly, it's the Multi Function Steering Wheel (MFSW). The two optional components are the full height MFD in the Instrument Cluster, and optionally the RNS-510 Navigation system.

OK, that's all well and fine. So what's all this mean to me and MY car?

2009 JSW

As far as I know, and from what information I've been able to track down this car was not available with a factory bluetooth option. The big limiting factor here was the lack of a MFSW option for this car. Retrofit of the MFSW and a BT module is possible though.

2009 Jetta Sedan

The 2009 Jetta Sedan came optional with 2 different BT options. The 9W3 BT option stickered for $275 and included the 1Z0 035 729 A module under the passenger seat. This car also came standard with the MFSW. This module is considered to be the "premium" BT module in that it has voice command and the capability to download the phone book from the handset. However, the module seems to not support display of the "Phone" menu on the MFD. The phone book can only be interacted with via the RNS-510 on the '09 Jetta.

The '09 Jetta also sometimes was sold with the Volk-L option, stickering for $350 and sometimes listed as a port installed option. This module is the same module that can be had at the parts counter in the Volk-L retrofit kit. This module does NOT support any transfer of the phone book, nor does it support voice command. It DOES however support A2DP (Bluetooth streaming audio.). When paired with a Premium 7 head unit, it will support mono audio. When paired with an RNS-510 head unit, it has the capability of streaming stereo audio to the head unit. Special wiring is required for stereo BT audio. The module also must be long coded for the proper head unit.

2010 Jetta Sedan

The 2010 Jetta TDI Sedan includes BT as a standard feature. 2010 sedans have been known to include the 1Z0 035 729 C module, and one user reports having the 1Z0 035 729 D module in their car. These modules are considered to be premium in that they have voice command and the ability to download the phone book from supported handsets. For some reason unbeknownst to the masses, the module supports the ability to display the "Phone" menu in the MFD but the functionality is not enabled from the factory. A simple change with a dealer VAS 5051/5025 or a VCDS can enable the "phone menu in the MFD. When paired with the RNS-510 you can interact with the phone book.

2010 Jetta SportWagen / 2010 Golf TDI

The 2010 JSW and 2010 Golf TDI come equipped with the 9W2 "UHV Low" Bluetooth option. This module allows for basic handsfree answering of calls and phone initiated hansfree outbound calling. This module also streams A2DP audio to compatible head units, most commonly the RNS-510 and the RCD-510. This module does NOT support voice command and a phone menu in the MFD. It absolutely cannot be enabled with this module!

2011 Jetta SportWagen / 2011 Golf TDI

The 2011 JSW and Golf cars now are shipping with VW's recent 9W7 Bluetooth option. The 9W7 module provides voice command, a phone menu in the MFD equipped cars, and A2DP BT audio streaming all in one module. Users are reporting that cars coming equipped with this module require no additional coding or modification to make any of this work. Basically, "it just works out of the box.."

I have the RNS-510 and a "Premium" BT module. What does this do for me?

When this module is paired with the RNS-510, it is also possible to dial from the phone book, dial from an on-screen dial pad, and display operator and signal strength information on the RNS-510.

Here's a link to a video showing how the Premium BT module and the RNS-510 work together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcSE0B7aRpE

But I want to do it all! I want A2DP (Streaming stereo audio), phone book functionality, and voice command!

2010 owners, you are in luck! You can now acquire the 9W7 module and install it in your vehicle in place of the 9W2 or 9W3 module that your car came equipped with. The part number for this module is 7P6 035 730 C. This will give you voice command, a phone menu in the RNS-510 if your car is so equipped, and A2DP audio streaming to either the RNS-510 or the RCD-510 head units. Note that some users are reporting that the overhead BT console in cars originally equipped with 9W2 modules does not function properly with the 9W7 option.

2009 owners are unfortunately may be out of luck as the 9W7 module is NOT compatible with the red highline MFD in the 2009 cars. This module pairs with other BT devices via the MFD, however member rolfovolvo has informed me that the 9W7 module will remain visible for 3 minutes after the vehicle has been turned on and can be paired via the handset. It is highly unlikely that an OEM module will be made to provide compatibility with the red MFD functionality for the 2009 cars as the red MFD and it's protocols are no longer actively manufactured or developed for by VW.

New 9W7 Info:

Member rolfovolvo has provided some more detailed information on the 9W7 family of BT modules:

Module with part number 7P6 035 730 B does not have Voice Recognition and Text to speech but HFP and A2DP as normal and sells a lot cheaper. This device might not be sold in the US via the parts counter, but might be imported and sold on the grey market.

Modules with part numbers: 7P6 035 730 C and 7P6 035 730 D both have voice recognition but the D variant is also capable of connecting to an external phone cradle for charging.

Needs confirmation / Coding information: Regarding some issues with the overhead buttons not working on some cars: The coding of the 9W7 has a flag for en-/disabling the buttons, in case the car doesn't have the buttons. Maybe the guys with the problem have taken a coding from a car without the buttons built in. Taking a coding from a car with working buttons might fix the issue. (Can

Needs confirmation: For the BT activity LED there is no coding flag, means it is technically not possible to enable the LED.

A non-OEM option is the Kufatec BT module, which should provide this functionality. Please see Kufatec's website for more information.

My MkV doesn't have Bluetooth. Can I add it?

Yes, but it is an undertaking. First, you need to have some way to control your BT module, this is either an MFSW, or an RNS-510 navigation unit. If your car does not have the MFSW and this is how you want to control your unit, then you will need to retrofit this first. There's plenty of information out there on how to do this and can be almost a FAQ in it's own. If you decide to go with an RNS-510, you need to ensure your BT module supports the RNS-510. There's no hard and fast rule on this, however the three parts above are known to work. See http://www.vwnavi.com for more information on the RNS-510 and Bluetooth configurations.

Once you have your MFSW/RNS-510 in place, you need the BT module. They are available in a variety of places. The easiest is to go to the dealer and get the Volk-L retrofit kit. It should work in any MkV based car with the MFSW. Installation requires splicing and routing of wires, and access to a VCDS. If you aren't comfortable with this, leave it to the pros.

Some modules are available on eBay, and may be sold as a "Skoda BT module." Skoda is just another divison of the VAG group selling in Europe only. Some of these modules work similarly to the Premium modules as above, and others requrie a phone capable of the RSAP (Remote SIM Access Profile.) Most US phones DO NOT support this and you will not be able to place or receive calls with an RSAP module. You will also need a wiring harness for modules sold by themselves and not as part of a kit.
There's plenty of info on retrofitting Bluetooth at http://www.vwnavi.com in the forums there.

You mentioned that you can enable the phone menu on my 2010 Jetta sedan? Spill it!

You need access to a VCDS. Connect to module/address word 77 - Telephone.



The coding in the 2010 1Z0 035 729 C module from the factory should be: 0011070

Many users have had success in enabling the phone menu in the MFD by changing the coding to read: 0000477.

Changing the third digit to "1" (0010477) should enable the menu in the MFD and the menu on the RNS-510 if your car is so equpped. If you have just retrofit the RNS-510, be sure to reset your RNS-510 by hodling in the left and right arrow buttons, as well as the day/night button, all adjacent to the DVD slot. Otherwise, the RNS will not recognize the change.
I just installed the latest 9w7 module (part # 5K0 035 730 B) in my 2010 Jetta Sportwagen with the RNS-510 navigation system and DSG transmission and have not been able to get the 'push to talk' button on the steering wheel to enable the voice activation feature so I can say a name and the call is made. I tried the soft code alluded to on the myturbodiesel.com website (0001832) without success (the baseline soft code on my car was 0001532). Does anyone have any suggestions as to what codes to try next? And does the module I purchase support the voice activation feature?
 

bbmd

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Activation of the voice activation feature

I just installed the latest 9w7 module (part # 5K0 035 730 B) in my 2010 Jetta Sportwagen with the RNS-510 navigation system and DSG transmission and have not been able to get the 'push to talk' button on the steering wheel to enable the voice activation feature so I can say a name and the call is made. I tried the soft code alluded to on the myturbodiesel.com website (0001832) without success (the baseline soft code on my car was 0001532). Does anyone have any suggestions as to what codes to try next? And does the module I purchase support the voice activation feature?
 

Mr. Timewise

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I just installed the latest 9w7 module (part # 5K0 035 730 B) in my 2010 Jetta Sportwagen with the RNS-510 navigation system and DSG transmission and have not been able to get the 'push to talk' button on the steering wheel to enable the voice activation feature so I can say a name and the call is made. I tried the soft code alluded to on the myturbodiesel.com website (0001832) without success (the baseline soft code on my car was 0001532). Does anyone have any suggestions as to what codes to try next? And does the module I purchase support the voice activation feature?
I know for certain that the 5K0 035 730 B module supports voice activation. I have this BT control module in my 2010 Jetta SE sedan.

I have a MFSW which has the Push-to-talk (PTT) button activated so it starts the conversation with the woman's voice in the bluetooth module.

Here's my 5K0 035 730 B , RNS-510, and Steering Wheel Control Module (SWCM) soft codes. The fault in the Navigation scan is because I do not have Sirius activated.
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
Component: J0527 054 0110
<--- "0110" means SW 0110
Coding: 0001831
Shop #: WSC 00056 555 39890
VCID: 76E8EC587857

Part No: 3C8 959 537
Component: E221__MFL-TAP H2ÿ 0021
Coding: 00000227
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 C HW: 3C0 035 684 C
Component: RNS-MID H04 1000
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7K6019058
Coding: 00000400040000A000
Shop #: WSC 01234 444 00010
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 234EE50C9B45

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 97
Mileage: 17160 km
Time Indication: 0

---

Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 B HW: 5K0 035 730 B
Component: TELEFON H09 1020
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007669641860
Coding: 0A00000000010100
Shop #: WSC 02172 444 59389
ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01009
ROD: UHVNA_VW36.rod
VCID: E2C0200844DF

No fault code found.
When the telephone control module was installed, do you know if VCDS was used to program a "Shop" code? You can use the codes I have used "02172 444 59389" or any other number you find in someone else's scan. Many people use "01234 123 12345".

Enabling the PTT feature is done in the Steering Wheel Control Module. As you see I have the soft code 0001831. The last digit in my code is a "1" because my sedan does not have a rear wiper installed. The "2" in your code is for the rear wiper on your JSW.

I have Tiptronic paddles on my MFSW, thus the 0001831. My MFSW came from a 2009 Passat CC.

I see in Ross-Tech's support files that the coding for the SWCM has a secondary group of numbers for the MFSW Tip and PTT coding. The coding for the xxxx?xx digit can be 5, 6, 7, 8 or 1, 2, 3, 4 depending on some other factor I am not familiar with. Here's the info from their "1K0-953-549-MY9.LBL" label file for the steering wheel with SW 0110 and up: (I edited the format just a bit to make it more readable here)
xxxx?xx: Multi-Function Steering Wheel (1-4 = LIN 1.3 / 5-8 = LIN 2.0) <--- Not sure how to interpret this parenthetical information

0 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel not installed
1 OR 5 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and w/o Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
2 OR 6 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and no Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
3 OR 7 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
4 OR 8 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed​
 
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Mr. Timewise

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I just installed the latest 9w7 module (part # 5K0 035 730 B) in my 2010 Jetta Sportwagen with the RNS-510 navigation system and DSG transmission and have not been able to get the 'push to talk' button on the steering wheel to enable the voice activation feature so I can say a name and the call is made. I tried the soft code alluded to on the myturbodiesel.com website (0001832) without success (the baseline soft code on my car was 0001532). Does anyone have any suggestions as to what codes to try next? And does the module I purchase support the voice activation feature?
I guess I should have asked a first, and very basic, question...

Was your JSW originally supplied with a 9W2 or 9W3 BT module? That is, did the car originally allow you to use the car's built-in microphone and speaker?
 

bbmd

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I guess I should have asked a first, and very basic, question...

Was your JSW originally supplied with a 9W2 or 9W3 BT module? That is, did the car originally allow you to use the car's built-in microphone and speaker?
Yes, I could use the car's built in microphone and speaker from the time I received it, but had to use my phone to initiate calls (no phone book on the display on the dash or the nav screen and, of course, no voice activation). So I thought my original module was an 9w2 (its part # is 1K8 035 730 D). Am I correct?
 

bbmd

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2005.5 VW Jetta, reflex silver; 2010 VW Jetta Sportwagen, white gold
I know for certain that the 5K0 035 730 B module supports voice activation. I have this BT control module in my 2010 Jetta SE sedan.

I have a MFSW which has the Push-to-talk (PTT) button activated so it starts the conversation with the woman's voice in the bluetooth module.

Here's my 5K0 035 730 B , RNS-510, and Steering Wheel Control Module (SWCM) soft codes. The fault in the Navigation scan is because I do not have Sirius activated.
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
Component: J0527 054 0110
<--- "0110" means SW 0110
Coding: 0001831
Shop #: WSC 00056 555 39890
VCID: 76E8EC587857

Part No: 3C8 959 537
Component: E221__MFL-TAP H2ÿ 0021
Coding: 00000227
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
Part No SW: 3C0 035 684 C HW: 3C0 035 684 C
Component: RNS-MID H04 1000
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7K6019058
Coding: 00000400040000A000
Shop #: WSC 01234 444 00010
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------
VCID: 234EE50C9B45

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 97
Mileage: 17160 km
Time Indication: 0

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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 B HW: 5K0 035 730 B
Component: TELEFON H09 1020
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007669641860
Coding: 0A00000000010100
Shop #: WSC 02172 444 59389
ASAM Dataset: UHVNA A01009
ROD: UHVNA_VW36.rod
VCID: E2C0200844DF

No fault code found.
When the telephone control module was installed, do you know if VCDS was used to program a "Shop" code? You can use the codes I have used "02172 444 59389" or any other number you find in someone else's scan. Many people use "01234 123 12345".

Enabling the PTT feature is done in the Steering Wheel Control Module. As you see I have the soft code 0001831. The last digit in my code is a "1" because my sedan does not have a rear wiper installed. The "2" in your code is for the rear wiper on your JSW.

I have Tiptronic paddles on my MFSW, thus the 0001831. My MFSW came from a 2009 Passat CC.

I see in Ross-Tech's support files that the coding for the SWCM has a secondary group of numbers for the MFSW Tip and PTT coding. The coding for the xxxx?xx digit can be 5, 6, 7, 8 or 1, 2, 3, 4 depending on some other factor I am not familiar with. Here's the info from their "1K0-953-549-MY9.LBL" label file for the steering wheel with SW 0110 and up: (I edited the format just a bit to make it more readable here)
xxxx?xx: Multi-Function Steering Wheel (1-4 = LIN 1.3 / 5-8 = LIN 2.0) <--- Not sure how to interpret this parenthetical information

0 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel not installed
1 OR 5 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and w/o Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
2 OR 6 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and no Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
3 OR 7 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
4 OR 8 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed​
This sounds complicated and perhaps more than I can feel comfortable with. I don't have a VCDS myself and took the car over to a friend's who has one and he did the initial coding change for me (which didn't work). He's loaned me his VCDS cable and I have downloaded the software from ross-tech so I could play around with it more myself, but am getting concerned I'm likely to screw something up. Car is due for its 20K service this week so perhaps I could see if the dealer can get the PTT button activated by fiddling with the coding (maybe I can print out your reply here and give them that as well as the instructions found on the myturbodiesel website). I am glad to hear that the module I purchased does support the voice activation feature (as the person who sold it to me indicated that it would).
 

Mr. Timewise

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If your car does not have a MFSW with paddle shifters then the steering wheel control module should be coded 0001731. (EDIT 6/27/2011 ... I should have typed "0001732")

Programming the WSC (Work Shop Code) is one of the choice you can make with VCDS. It'll be obvious when you are connected to the car. The image below has the code 03743 444 00001

 
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bbmd

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2005.5 VW Jetta, reflex silver; 2010 VW Jetta Sportwagen, white gold
If your car does not have a MFSW with paddle shifters then the steering wheel control module should be coded 0001731.

Programming the WSC (Work Shop Code) is one of the choice you can make with VCDS. It'll be obvious when you are connected to the car. The image below has the code 03743 444 00001

I used the 0001732 soft code because my car is a Jetta Sportwagen and thus has the rear wiper and per the instructions given on the www.myturbodiesel.com website, if the car has a rear wiper (i.e. is a Sportwagen) the last # should be 2. I also thought that it would be correct because the original soft code was 0001532 and so I thought I'd just have to change the 5 to a 7 reflecting that I just wanted to activate the PTT button. My car has the DSG transmission which I assume the coding considers an automatic transmission (even though it has some features of a manual transmission) because the original code was 0001532 versus 0000532; it does not have the Tiptronic transmission (and does not have paddle shifters). Still think I should give 0001731 a try? If I can't get it to activate and the dealer can't either, maybe I need to consider making a road trip to see you sometime if you're game (saw that you're north of Chicago- I'm in Lexington KY), unless you're coming down my way (saw you have a 2.5L gas car; if you had a TDI like I have, you might consider attending the TDIfest here in Lexington over Labor Day weekend).
 

trscott

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2009 Jetta TDI DSG 13k miles, Black w/ Grey interior
2009 Jetta TDI w/o Bluetooth

Well, I've read 20 pages of postings. Some help, but very little that addresses my car or requirements.

First: Does anyone have a 9W2 module they pulled from a 2009 with red MFD? Despite dzcad90's post to the contrary, the 2009 red mfd is apparently capable of working with some varieties of BT module. According to most of what I've read, that requires the 1z0 035 729 b. I've seen several pictures of cars that used it.

Most of the posts in this thread seem to be folks with a 2010 something.
Nearly everyone seems to be very interested in downloading their phone book. I suppose this is a function of the phone you use. I've got a Droid X and with it mounted in a dash dock, dialing and controlling the phone is very simple, complete with jumbo touchscreen buttons, hotkeys for favorite numbers, audio control, optional single button voice dialing, etc. I can't see any advantage to doing those things through a much less convenient steering wheel button. And the integrated triple microphone system yields excellent noise and echo cancellation, so I don't need a separate mic.

All I want is to have stereo audio through the car stereo. I could get that through the Aux-In port, but if I'm not listening to audio from the Droid, answering a call would require switching the radio first to the Aux port and then answering the call on the phone touch screen. If I connect the phone with Bluetooth, answering the call from the MFSW should mute any audio source I'm listening to. Honestly, that's the main reason I care about BT.
I use YourMuze.fm to listen to streaming radio through my phone most of the time, but I occasionally listen to local radio or another source. I've used YourMuze with both earphones, and with an A2DP compatible BT earpiece. (If anyone is interested in more about YourMuze, I'd be happy to talk about it, lots of nice features, pick a personal station list from your pc/mac, set the streaming bit rate, etc.)

So I would be happy with stereo audio A2DP and HFP, MFSW integration that allows pairing, answering an incoming call, and volume adjust with the MFSW button.

I think a 9W2 module compatible with a red MFD would give me all I need. If there was a 9W7 or later that could talk with a red MFD, that would be fine too, but I am not sure there is one.

I can use the phone book on the Droid touchsreen, built-in voice dialing, etc directly through the phone mounted in a dash-dock.

My car did not come with any BT, so I need to figure out the wiring and have yet to find any information available on the wiring harness part numbers, or even a reasonably detailed wiring diagram to make it from scratch.

As for the class action lawsuit, a pox on all tort lawyers, they have done more harm to product innovation and the economy than all the good they ever promised to do.

Yeah, I bought the car second-owner from a dealer, saw the phone button on the MFSW, read the owners manual which described how the BT worked, and assumed it had BT installed. I was a little ticked when I figured out it didn't have BT, but just kicked myself for not checking it out more carefully. I would have bought the car anyway, and assumed it would be a simple upgrade. It is rather misleading of VW to put that phone button on the wheel when there was no phone function installed, nor any very clear BT upgrade path.

I am much more annoyed at how ignorant the dealer techs are of any technical information about VCDS programming, audio options, BT, Aux-In wiring, wiring option part numbers, etc. I know these cars are getting much more technical and that makes it pretty challenging for the technicians to keep up, but it isn't that hard to find tech-savvy young people to train for the job if the company wanted to. It is pretty sad when the user community in places like this are DRAMATICALLY more savvy than the lead techs at any of half a dozen dealers I've talked to. I have talked to a couple of real idiots at probably the largest VW dealer in the state, who were promoted as being the parts dept experts on all things electronic. I was rather dumb-struck at some of the things they "knew" with certainty. There is a lot of half-truth and outright nonsense passing for technical wisdom among the dealer community.

All of that said, I love the car and wouldn't trade it for anything else at twice the price; 40+ MPG around town, as much as 50-60 on the highway, and it's fun to drive.
 

Mr. Timewise

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...I used the 0001732 soft code because my car is a Jetta Sportwagen and thus has the rear wiper...
Oops! My bad. I was concentrating on the paddle shifter coding digit when I copied and pasted. Yes, the last digit "2" is for the rear wipers.

You are also correct that the Jetta gasser Sedan with Tip does not come with paddle shifters. Mine has them only because I switched out the steering wheel for a MFSW from a 2009 Passat CC.

And yes, the DSG and Tiptronic transmissions are coded the same way in the steering wheel controller.
 
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Mr. Timewise

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...the 2009 red mfd is apparently capable of working with some varieties of BT module...
Yes, when wired properly (microphone, interface wiring, etc.) the 9W2 will work in a red MFD car. The MFD won't display any phone info, but the BT is operational. A proper radio or nav system can show the phone info.

Even if the radio or nav system cannot show the phone info, the BT can still be used for receiving calls or continuing calls initiated on the phone itself.. To do so, you'd need some switches/buttons to communicate with the system. Are the overhead BT buttons in your car? If not, then a MFSW steering wheel could be used.
 

trscott

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Correct Part Number for 9W2 (red MFD, MFSW, RCD-500)

Yes, when wired properly (microphone, interface wiring, etc.) the 9W2 will work in a red MFD car. The MFD won't display any phone info, but the BT is operational. A proper radio or nav system can show the phone info.

... the BT can be used for receiving calls or continuing calls initiated on the phone itself.. a MFSW steering wheel could be used.
I have the MFSW, and red MFD, with Premium 7 radio (RCD-500 I think?).

I think the 9W2 would be a good choice. I realize it lacks the phonebook integration, but will it display info about pairing and that sort of control on the red MFD?

Most importantly, can you tell me for sure what the right part number is for a 9W2 used with a red MFD? There seems to be some bad info on some of the forum FAQs about this. Some forum FAQs list "1z0 035 729 b" which I am told is actually a 9W3. Kind of a bummer that the modules do not indicate whether they are 9W2, 9W3, 9W7, etc.
 
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