Mis-fueling prevention ideas

RNDDUDE

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OK, I recieved one of those "talking birthday cards" the other day, and I was intrigued that they are able to produce the electronics now so affordably. It got me to thinking....why not have one of these attached to the inside of the fuel filler door that is activated when the door is opened and says "Diesel fuel only" or some such warning? It could easily be disabled by those who don't like it by removing the coin battery. What do you all think about this?
 

jkowalski

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They have these neat yellow stickers (3 of them!) to put in your fuel door, as a "recall."
If people can't read (the fuel cap already said diesel fuel) do you expect them to listen to a random voice that would probably either be too soft or loud?
 

RNDDUDE

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They have these neat yellow stickers (3 of them!) to put in your fuel door, as a "recall."
If people can't read (the fuel cap already said diesel fuel) do you expect them to listen to a random voice that would probably either be too soft or loud?
Well, in a word...YES!
 

naturist

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Shoot, I want a device that slips into the filler neck, and runs a quick chemical test for gasoline, and if gasoline is found, the filler neck throws the fuel nozzle out, snaps shut, sounds a 110 dB horn, and a big booming voice bellows in outrage that some moron has just tried to poison a diesel vehicle with gasoline before going on a 10 minute rant about allowing idiots to handle dangerous machines and substances, at the end of which, several more 110 dB horn blasts interspersed with shouts of "diesel fuel only, stupid" finish the sonic humiliation before the system resets.
 

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The best way to insure it has the right fuel is to not let anyone else near the car lol. Regarding the talking thing all I can say is LMAO :D

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40X40

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STOP what you are doing.
LOOK at the fuel pump sign.
READ the fuel pump sign.
THINK about the job at hand.
REFUEL the car with the proper fuel.

So simple a child can do it correctly.

Bill
 

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Bumper sticker:
Im not saying kill all the stupid people... What I said was; get rid of all the warning labels and let nature take its course!
 

Rico567

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STOP what you are doing.
LOOK at the fuel pump sign.
READ the fuel pump sign.
THINK about the job at hand.
REFUEL the car with the proper fuel.

So simple a child can do it correctly.

Bill
THIS. Frankly, I would find having to install some talking device on my fuel filler door humiliating (and in the case of my car, someone else driving is pretty much irrelevant). A locking gas cap would be a simpler dodge, if one had to have something.
 

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another SAFE way is to just not give your car to anybody else.....
In the Fuel Gauge it shoud / could say DIESEL.
 

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Most fuel stations you gotta push the button that says "diesel" (combo pump), or diesel is on its own island away from the silly gassers jockeying for pumps.
 

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Shoot, I want a device that slips into the filler neck, and runs a quick chemical test for gasoline, and if gasoline is found, the filler neck throws the fuel nozzle out, snaps shut, sounds a 110 dB horn, and a big booming voice bellows in outrage that some moron has just tried to poison a diesel vehicle with gasoline before going on a 10 minute rant about allowing idiots to handle dangerous machines and substances, at the end of which, several more 110 dB horn blasts interspersed with shouts of "diesel fuel only, stupid" finish the sonic humiliation before the system resets.
I can one-up you :D

Install a spark plug in the fuel tank neck that sparks once/second when the fuel filler cap is removed. Diesel fuel won't ignite, but gasoline will! As soon as some idiot tries to pump gas into your diesel tank, they'll get blasted with a giant 'woof!' which will probably singe off most of the body hair in the middle third of their body, and their shirt.

I think that would teach people real quick! :D :D

Edit: bonus factor is that all the gasoline would be burnt away, and they could safely drive off without damaging the engine :D
 
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Rual817

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(Rual: Family cross-country trip in 1957 (I was 3), eating my mother's fried chicken at a rest area...12-year-old brother says, "Hey, why doesn't someone open a roadside restaurant that only sells fried chicken?"...sigh...)
Wait!! was your little brother Colonel Sanders??? lol
 

tdiatlast

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Neither...sigh...it was a brilliant idea that, sadly, neither parent recognized as brilliant!
 

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Best idea I saw someone posted here or somewhere. Make one fuel a round nozzle the other an oval nozzle. Neither will fit in a receptacle for the other unless you make a really big receptacle, ha. Not gonna happen though.
 

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Only problem with your method, @Nick, is that I don't look good in an orange jump suit, and if I installed your system, between trying to get some poor sap to test it while rubbing my hands together and cackling, and the general percentage of illiterate dummies pumping gas in this country, I'd be sure to get caught incinerating somebody.
 

nicklockard

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LOL. Give them a fire-proof Nomex suit painted to look like a crash test dummy, and tell them they'll be immortally famous on youtube!
 

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I noticed that my 2013 Passat TDI claims to have a device to prevent the smaller unleaded gas nozzles from being inserted. Do older/other TDIs not have this, or is the issue that they don't work? (No, I'm not going to try it....)
 

naturist

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how about put down the cell phone, open eyes, pay attention to the task at hand

See, now there's the problem, @chrisfiat. We're talking about dealing with the brain-dead here, and your proposed solution, while elegantly simple, common-sense, and wise, won't succeed with the crowd we're trying to address here. These are the folks who've already ignored (1) verbal instructions to fill with diesel only; (2) failed to read the "diesel fuel only" printed on the "gas cap;" (3) not noticed the odd smell associated with that "gas cap;" and (4) generally proven themselves ignorant of the possibility that the vehicle at hand MIGHT call for paying attention to ANYTHING.
 

jkowalski

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See, now there's the problem, @chrisfiat. We're talking about dealing with the brain-dead here, and your proposed solution, while elegantly simple, common-sense, and wise, won't succeed with the crowd we're trying to address here.
In a round-about kind of way, it will address the problem.
Start making dumb people pay for their mistakes, and they will learn.
I bet ya it will only take one misfueling in a CR-TDI and they will be extra careful about which pump they choose. ;)
And if you're worried about someone else misfueling YOUR TDI, either (1) get a locking fuel cap, (2) verbally tell them to NOT fuel the vehicle, (3) make sure they know diesel fuel only (like a more performance car owner needs premium fuel only), and if all else fails, (4) they can pay for the damage. There are legal routes to take to get money from them if need be.

I'm not saying take away ALL labels (a small "Diesel Fuel Only" by the fuel gauge and on the fuel cap is fine). No need for three big yellow stickers. I'm not a f--king preschooler. And I take this "fix" as an insult.
 
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whitedog

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Best idea I saw someone posted here or somewhere. Make one fuel a round nozzle the other an oval nozzle. Neither will fit in a receptacle for the other unless you make a really big receptacle, ha. Not gonna happen though.
How about one fuel is a horizontal oval and the other is a vertical nozzle. That way the only way to get it backwards is to turn the nozzle sideways.

If they still get it wrong, see the bumper sticker:

Im not saying kill all the stupid people... What I said was; get rid of all the warning labels and let nature take its course!
 

tdiatlast

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Okay, I'll try. But, as Burt says to Uncle Albert in "Mary Poppins", as they're laughing hysterically..."There's nothing like a good joke!", to which Uncle Albert responds, "No, and that was nothing like a good joke!"
 
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