ScottSutcliffe
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Which VW models come with manual transmssions?
Manual Transmissions
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ezshift5
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Ol'Rattler
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Pretty much all of them except for the Treg and maybe the CC. Because of how lame American drivers are, almost all cars come with an auto or DSG auto.
The problem is because Drivers Ed administrators figured out a long time ago that if you don't actually teach kids how to drive (manual transmission), the cost per student would be less.
The problem is because Drivers Ed administrators figured out a long time ago that if you don't actually teach kids how to drive (manual transmission), the cost per student would be less.
South Coast Guy
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Being able to use a manual transmission is no more required to be a good driver than knowing how to adjust a choke or carburetor.
FordGuy100
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In all fairness, modern automatics have come a long ways from where they started. But, I still prefer manuals. If I could have found a CR JSW in our price range with a manual, I would have gotten it instead of the DSG. The DSG is alright in my book though.
Tiguan(?), Toureg, CC, I believe those are the VW models you can't get a manual in.
Tiguan(?), Toureg, CC, I believe those are the VW models you can't get a manual in.
Random_Vibration
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Nor was it stated as such.
IndigoBlueWagon
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New VWs? No diesels right now, of course, but the only gassers with manuals are the base 1.4TSI Jetta S, Jetta Sport, Jetta GLI, Base Golf, GTI, and Golf R. Not sure about Beetles. No Passats or Tiguans with manuals in '16. And the manual CC is gone.
For TDIs, in 2015 all models except the Touareg were available with manuals, including upper trim levels. Base Passat only with a manual.
Who knows what we'll get, or when, in '16.
For TDIs, in 2015 all models except the Touareg were available with manuals, including upper trim levels. Base Passat only with a manual.
Who knows what we'll get, or when, in '16.
Trvln Canuk
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In Canada you can still get the base model '16 Passat with a 5 speed manual, for $1400.00 less than the automatic.
ScottSutcliffe
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Manual Trans
Thanks for all the posts. I'm hopeful my next VW, diesel or otherwise, will still sport a manual transmission.
Thanks for all the posts. I'm hopeful my next VW, diesel or otherwise, will still sport a manual transmission.
Ol'Rattler
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Well sure. Ask the guy that lends his manual transmission car to a friend and they destroy the clutch in it.
A part of Drivers Ed should include how to drive a manual transmission car without destroying the clutch. Just one of those administrative decisions that leaves folks uneducated on a very basic driving skill.
I'm sure that some administrator somewhere got rewarded handsomely for dropping a very basic requirement from the Drivers Ed curriculum in the name of cutting training cost.
Adjusting a choke or a carburetor is in no way the same thing. If you didn't get the memo, carburetors or chokes have not been on cars in close to 30 years.
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tadawson
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To play devils advocate, well, neither have manual transmissions for the better part. Nobody has ever been forced to drive a manual . . .
IndigoBlueWagon
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I took driver's Ed 44 years ago and no manual transmission cars were available. When my brother took his driving test 4 years later the would not allow him to take the test in a manual transmission car. We had to rent one. I don't think the disappearance of the manual transmission is a recent trend.
Operating a clutch has nothing to do with obeying traffic rules, which is drivers ed primary purpose. Why would drivers ed waste time and money on something like training people to drive something thats on a low percentage of vehicles?
Personally i think its a good skill to have and prefer manual on all my vehicles, but i see zero point in why it would be included in driver training, OR any conspiracy as to why its not.
Ol'Rattler
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Well kind of. The purpose of Drivers Ed is to be instructed on how to drive a motor vehicle proficiently and safely. Obeying the traffic rules is a moot point if you don't have the proper skills to drive a car.
Kind of sad really. What they have done is figured out the absolute least they have to teach to our up and coming drivers.
Change a tire, check fluids, check a fuse and check tire pressures etc? Just because Germany teaches these things to their Drivers Ed students doesn't mean Americans need to know these things. Sometimes, being an American is just a celebration of ignorance.
Kind of sad really. What they have done is figured out the absolute least they have to teach to our up and coming drivers.
Change a tire, check fluids, check a fuse and check tire pressures etc? Just because Germany teaches these things to their Drivers Ed students doesn't mean Americans need to know these things. Sometimes, being an American is just a celebration of ignorance.
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IndigoBlueWagon
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I've always said that drivers' ed was designed to help you pass the license test, nothing more. And just because you've gotten your license it doesn't mean you know how to drive.
Closing those gaps gives us parents something to do. I enjoyed it.
Closing those gaps gives us parents something to do. I enjoyed it.
The maintenance stuff is minor BS. Would be useful, but not really a necessary lesson for drivers ed, and can be learned easily, plus is specific to the vehicle. A good drivers ed program is the Finnish model, with skidpad training time. Learn the rules of the road, learn to regain control when you lose it.
I would like improved driver training in the country also, but as indigobluewagon points out, as a parent you can make up the deficiencies. As a kid I came out once to find my father had pulled the center valve on a tire and told me to change it. Later i was taking my own cars apart on my own.
Ol'Rattler
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There are things you car will tell you if you know what to look for. Unfortunately, they just don't teach any of that stuff.
Maintenance is not miner BS. It's a shame that folks will drive a car until it refuses to start or move and then call it a pile of crap.
Maintenance is not miner BS. It's a shame that folks will drive a car until it refuses to start or move and then call it a pile of crap.
I think you are missing my point. For drivers education its certainly not worth going over since its so vehicle specific. Making the point that a maintained vehicle is unlikely to leave you stranded is all i would do.
What would be the point of describing a DSG service to a bunch of teenagers when maybe 1 in 50 might have the aptitude to do it? How about how to check the oil on a car that doesnt even have a dipstick? What kind of coolant to add on a dozen manufacturers who all have different standards?
Adding urea on diesels when most kids wont be driving them? Brake jobs on a regenerative braking hybrid?
This is an overload of tangental specific vehicle information when concentrating on driving skills and rules of the road is the purpose anyway.
German_1er_diesel
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Just checked the German VW configurator. The only VW you can't get in stick is the Touareg.
All the others (up, Polo, Golf, Beetle, Scirocco, Jetta, Touran, Tiguan, Passat, CC, Caddy, Multivan, Caravelle, California, Amarok, Transporter, Crafter) come with a MT standard.
All the others (up, Polo, Golf, Beetle, Scirocco, Jetta, Touran, Tiguan, Passat, CC, Caddy, Multivan, Caravelle, California, Amarok, Transporter, Crafter) come with a MT standard.
briankramer
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I guess the Volkswagen Golf R series and some Passat models are still providing manual transmission.
IndigoBlueWagon
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No 2016 Passats with manual transmissions last time I looked.
turbocharged798
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I think you are the one missing the point. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn the basics of checking your oil, tire pressures, insuring wiper blades are OK, ect. Just basic safety stuff that people should do before operating their vehicle. Yes, I agree it should be a part of driver training. Most pilots are trained to do basic inspections of their aircrafts before flying.
yup, minor BS like I said that can be covered in generalities about keeping a car maintained. Exactly how long do you think it will take you to convey that information to someone who's not paying attention anyway? 5 minutes? 10? You have a class of 40 students, where is the dipstick on every car they might own? I would cover the whole issue of maintenance in a quick general survey about taking care of and inspecting your personal vehicle.
To me the deficiencies in driver training in this country have nothing to do with maintenance, and everything to do with how you actually drive the car. Id love to see a skidpad course for kids.
returning to the argument about manual transmissions, its a waste of time to say that should be taught in driver education. If someone has the aptitude and desire to learn, they can do so themselves on their own time. Learning the rules of the road is more important.
Let me ask you what you would prefer more as another driver: A kid who doesn't know where the dipstick is on his parents car, BUT checks his surroundings and yields the passing lane to faster traffic while using his signals, AND while not driving too fast for conditions?
Or the kid who did a tranny swap, cut you off in snow, and went off into the median while texting, but he can drive a stick.
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oilhammer
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Vague question without context. Since I am feeling nostalgic, I will discuss the 1972 model year.
In 1972, all the 4-door and variant models of the Volkswagen 411 sold in the USA had only an automatic transmission available. The 2-door 411 only had a manual transmission available, and while all 411s were quite rare, the 2-door manuals were especially rare. Every other model that year had a manual available, and it was the last year the Transporter was only available here with a manual. The Beetle and Karmann Ghia never did get a full automatic transmission. Nor did the Type 181 "Thing", but that was not available here until very late 1972 as a '73 model. The '72 Beetle and Ghia did have an optional 3 speed "automatic stick shift" version. It used a manually shifted 3 speed transmission with an automatically operated single disk dry clutch that was separated from the engine with a conventional non-locking fluid type torque converter.
IndigoBlueWagon
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Another answer would be not many, or fewer than in the past. At least in NA.