Low power, P1556, P0402 - SOLVED

ToxicDoc

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2001 Jetta, has .216 injectors, Kerma's "S7" turbo (BV39 with manual actuator), a PD150 intake (with an adapter to keep the stock EGR/ASV), and a Malone tune that was customized to this combination. The vehicle ran great, but during the quarantine it sat mostly unused for 2 years.

Now, it has overall low power, boost comes late or minimally, and brakes do not have much power assist now. CEL comes on.

On inspection I found two cracked vacuum lines that went to the ASV that I repaired. Vacuum pump had a loose nipple and slightly low suction (just feeling it with hand over barb). I replaced the O-rings, peened the housing down around the barb (got snug), and sealed it with epoxy. Vacuum good by feel. No improvement running.

I tested the N75 valve - works correctly when I give it 12 volts, switching open and closed. Unplugged the MAF and the brakes worked as they should the first time I stepped on the pedal, then lost most of the assist as it had been - no improvement in running. I tried another one I had from another car - no change either. Turbo actuator moves freely. All vacuum lines look good, nothing loose.

I had a recent promotion at work (I call it my demotion from all the extra work) and have minimal time to work on this. My local guru has cut back significantly on his work aside from a few track customers due to a serious family tragedy and won't take my car.

So, I take it to a local shop that does German cars. They clearly don't know TDI. They get codes P1556 and P0402. They replace the vacuum pump saying it wasn't working well enough (clearly not true) and the EGR valve. No improvement. They report the turbo actuator moves correctly. I take the car back before they start changing more parts.

I'm in a small town. The next closest recommended TDI shop is 2 hours away. I can take it but it's a hassle to go the distance, and I wonder if it's a good idea to drive up and down my local hills with no power and weak brakes. So I will look at getting a RossTech cable next. N18 is original. I will test it when I have time although not sure it would create a problem like this. In the meantime I would appreciate some diagnostic advice.

Any clues? thanks.
 

ToxicDoc

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I went through the Ross Tech site. Lose hoses and pipes don't look to be the problem. The only thing left is failed wiring on their suggestions. I do not have enough experience on this system to diagnose a wiring problem unfortunately. :(
 

Zak99b5

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I'd still suspect a vacuum issue, since it’s the common factor in boost control, egr function, and brake assist. Might be worth it just to replace all the hoses (including the big one to the brake booster) and check valves.
 

jmodge

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Bummer about the loss of your mechanic. If you don't have a hand vacuum pump it's a good investment. You can also pull the gauge to insert into the vacuum tract to diagnose what is happening. I assume you don't have one since you checked the pump by feel. VCDS and the hand pump are two tools that will take you along way towards taking the time, parts costs, and guesswork out of diagnosis. They will pay for themselves.
 

ToxicDoc

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I'll check vacuum. I have a pump but it is coming from storage where I've had everything, and I ordered a few vacuum caps that I'll need. My vacuum lines re all in great shape. They were all replaced when I had the turbo installed. The ones that I had to fix were just two at the barbs. They must've cracked a little on original installation and extended over the years. I'm wondering if there's a booster problem. I can check that, the check valve, and the rest. It would be nice to have a smoke machine. Surprised the shop I went to didn't use one.
 

wonneber

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It's hard to check the hoses for cracks with the cloth on them.
If you are loosing power brakes as mentioned you do have a leak somewhere.
I replaced all the vacuum hoses on mine and it did help.
Not expensive anyway. :)
I took the vacuum hose to the brake booster off to check the bottom where you can't see to make sure it was ok.
There is a vacuum line diagram here but I don't seem to have the link anymore.
Try searching here.
Last, long shot there is a one way vacuum valve on one of the small lines.
If it backwards or not working it won't work.
Do you have the Bentley repair manual for these?
 

ToxicDoc

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1 1/2 hours with my Mity-Vac and a good friend helping me out at his place with his lift we found the vacuum hose to the turbo actuator had a large leak somewhere along its length. Also found a few cracks at a couple of other connections. Problem solved. It should not have been hard for a "professional" to fix. smh I am as upset by the incompetence I faced as I am relieved by my success. I don't think the car ever performed this good.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement.
 

burpod

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i'm not a fan of that cloth covered vacuum/boost line. it cracks way too often. i don't get it. some of the stuff seems to last forever, other stuff just seems like garbage. i've even bought the "good stuff" from reputable vendors and a couple years later all the ends where its plugged into barbs is all crap. i just use the silicone stuff now, never had a single problem with the ends splitting
 

ToxicDoc

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It's unfortunate. My original hoses were good for 17 years. My replacements were German-branded and developed the split ends after only 3 years 🤷‍♂️
 

burpod

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yup. same with hose i've got, and have seen on other cars. you'd think it would be quality. but it's junk, or hit-and-miss. silicone-only for me now, and i've never had a hose split or crack. some hose i have is 10yrs old and not showing any signs of aging.... and have never seen one develop those usual splits where it's plugged into a barb
 

flashmayo

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If you search the forums, part numbers and lengths can be found for replacement hose from McMasters. Glad you fixed the issue, and congrats on the promotion. ;-0
 
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