Lost keyfob

jason_

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I've lost both keys, I have hopes to find one of the two.

Question 1


If I find one , can I buy a quality OEM blank and with vcds program the blank to car? At that point would it be less work and worth the $ to have dealer do the duplicate for me?

Question 2, how many fobs can I program at once to the car?

Question 3, if I can't find any of the original fobs, how screwed am I, besides an expensive truck trip back to nearest dealer?

Thanks.
 
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Q1- you can not
Q3- around ~$300 at the dealer
 

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also Q3: the dealer doesn't need the original fobs... so you can just grit your teeth and go get 'er done

If it helps, a Mazda Omni key was CDN $600, last time I needed one. :( :)
 

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Ugh. Guess I'll keep looking around the house. Dealer is over 90 miles. That's gonna add up on the flat bed....


/me checks air pressure in the Huffy......
 

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It's not for everyone, but the people online (e.g. VAG Retrofits) who can overcome Component Protection and help you pair new modules to these cars can program new keys. Typically less than $100 if just doing the keys. Requires the VAS5054 and ODIS, though (again - see the first few words of this post).
 

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It's not for everyone, but the people online (e.g. VAG Retrofits) who can overcome Component Protection and help you pair new modules to these cars can program new keys. Typically less than $100 if just doing the keys. Requires the VAS5054 and ODIS, though (again - see the first few words of this post).
This juice isn't worth that squeeze

Done it once, and that was for upgrading to the next gen infotainment.

The keys are here somewhere, I drove the car here. And I'll not a struggling individual in todays easy world with only one vehicle, when there's so many vehicles around me.
 

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top tip,

the key will always be the last place you'll look. ;)

Somehow I have a tendency to place them on shelf or some other none logical place.
 

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Not entirely true, as mentioned above.
It's not for everyone, but the people online (e.g. VAG Retrofits) who can overcome Component Protection and help you pair new modules to these cars can program new keys. Typically less than $100 if just doing the keys. Requires the VAS5054 and ODIS, though (again - see the first few words of this post).
 

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Well, found a broken transponder at work on the bench.

Asked around how long its been there, timeframe seemed appropriate. Someone found it in the road.

Missing the blade and cover, held a battery in it and sure as f'king sh*t, car unlocks.

Half lucky I suppose. Two on order, and dealer cannot confirm if more than 2 fobs can be saved to car. So not sure if I find one of the originals if I would technically have 3 working fobs, well, I guess 3 and a 1/2. Haha


I'm sure what happened is I drove car home, parked, pocket the fob. Swapped vehicles, somehow down out there fell out of my pocket. I'm always driving the hilo from one building to the other. That or it fell out when I jumped out of the other vehicle, and the snow plow pushed it around. Unbelievable how jacked up and broken it is, in the rain, water salt, drove over, still unlocks and lites up the ignition....
 
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Could I order this and swap the guts? Then get another blade copied? Dealer said if i bring in working transponders theyll program them all at once.

$50 to have a working protected keyfob. Unless someone knows where I ccan find an empty transponder carcass.

Ill just keychain a copied blade with it. Really only needed if the car,fob, or both batteries are dead.

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Yes, all keys need to be present to be programmed all at once. As I understand the 2015's can't accept an add-on key later on. Blades, anyone can cut, some from even a picture: tunemyeuro.com for example.

I would (like you say) transfer the guts of the broken one, to an ebay or aliexpress fob, then with the new complete key the dealer will give you, have a new blade cut....2 complete keys.
 

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Where can I find a fob case for the mk7 wagon?

I can't find just the plastic, and further more the 4th panic button, unless both cases are the same and just the PCB/softpads are differennt?

If I can find a new case to hold the battery, it'll be good enough for the dealer the program. I doubt hell want to work a battery duck taped together mess.
 

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Does you car have KESSY? Perhaps you can drive the car to the dealer to get the new key, then you really don't need 2 blades, just make the bladeless FOB your daily, and keep the new one in a safe place.
 

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Still going after 2 new fobs.

The other one made 2 trips through the washer and dryer.

This crunched one was my good backup. And it hasn't had surgery yet. PCB so far works and I'm dodging a tow bill.

My only gain of terrible preparations was waiting to make 1 good fob copy after the 1st wash and dry.

I've earned my misery.
 

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Ah, but you have a pretty clean cut blade to assemble a perfect key with the new shell. Then you can just get the one new key from the dealer.
 

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Haha. Their claim was the reason of prepay was because the key is ordered cut from across the pond. They said they can't cut blades.


I did make a $5 copy and left the fob in the car wrapped in foil, so I could do swim and carry a copy. Best it does is unlock the vehicle. Not sure about the glove compartment
 

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man a rough life to be one of you key fobs. least you'll come out a head with a third key as a back up back up.
 

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I don't know that transferring the guts (PCB board) from used key (redlineautoparts.com link) will allow that key to be programmed.
I got a "from another car" key along with the known good one when I bought my current GSW, and it couldn't be matched. So, I had to order one from the dealer (at $270CAD or so).

I wanted to have a spare spare, so I recently bought a full new key from Aliexpress ($30CAD) and will get remote ODIS assistance from someone to pair it (along with my current two - all keys need to be done at the same time, even if one/some have already been paired to that car) the next time I need some other remote coding.
 

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man a rough life to be one of you key fobs. least you'll come out a head with a third key as a back up back up.
That's the pun on me. My "backup" stayed in the cubby as the other one has been drenched and heated twice, I didn't trust it. I had to pull vacuum on it for a day to dry it out so the buttons would work.

Well, misplaced that, and used my backup. Since I've found half of it, and if I do find the wash and dry fob,I still don't trust either of them, so may as well pony up and get 2 fresh fobs. Again, I've earned my misery.

I'm lucky the car unlocks and starts with this broken fob, I had NO blades to open the door, the $5 cooy was in the glove compartment, and the Car was locked. Luckily I had the hood propped open to chage the car battery so the doors would unlock.

The stars truly lined up on this disaster.
 

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Opinions? I was going to try soldering it on, but not sure if its polarized?

Id imagine its the magnetic field coil for when the fob battery is not functional.


 

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Actually, I didn't care. Its together. Chances to find something similiar, risks of shorting/burning pcb, its a pass in my book.

No longer water proof, itll never start the car without a fob battery, needs a blade cut, but most importantly.......... Where can I find the little VW button?

and I reused the old button overlay. The aftermarket one looks like a 3rd grader with a chromosome tied too tight traced the lines.


 
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Pretty sure you can buy the gel-type key logo things from the dealer - like $5 or so.
 

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Nice. Ill check.

And even better. Found one of the original fob that went through the wash and dry twice. The button isnt soft. Or maybe its supposed to be and cooked from the clothes dryer?

It was in the glove compartment of another vehicle. And 2 years worth of registration stickers for 4 trucks. Ridiculous me.

So I guess overall technically I'll be getting 4 fobs and keys for about the price of 2? And dodged a tow bill. I kinda won.

thanks for the help.
 

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Yes, all keys need to be present to be programmed all at once. As I understand the 2015's can't accept an add-on key later on. Blades, anyone can cut, some from even a picture: tunemyeuro.com for example.

I would (like you say) transfer the guts of the broken one, to an ebay or aliexpress fob, then with the new complete key the dealer will give you, have a new blade cut....2 complete keys.

Tunemyeuro is gone, what's a good source for the blades now? I
 
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