Looking at a Q5. What should I know?

Penst8grad

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Our Passat has gone off to college with our daughter. My wife, being mostly low maintenance, would like another oil burner. Small SUV was her biggest request and I've narrowed it down to 2015/2016 X3 or Q5. There are a few of each below or just over 100k miles she likes the pictures.

I know next to nothing about the 3.0 in the Q5 and am also learning N47 at the same time. Please tell me what I need to know that would help sway a decision one way or the other.
 

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How's your bank account?

The Q5 is hardly an "SUV", it is essentially a jacked up Audi A4 avant with its butt ground down. That said, it is a decent [car] chassis. And the V6 TDI slings it about pretty effortlessly, probably the best power-to-weight ratio of any TDI sold here.

But a lot of them end up needing some leaky engine bits replaced, and it gets expensive depending on what it is and if the engine needs to come out or not.

Certainly no worse than the turd-can EA888 gasser engines they put in them, though.
 

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How's your bank account?

The Q5 is hardly an "SUV", it is essentially a jacked up Audi A4 avant with its butt ground down. That said, it is a decent [car] chassis.
If an Outback or CRV can be called SUV'S I'll let her call a Q5 an SUV. Is 200K mi realistic with a 3.0 and good maintenance? Got a kid in college now so my bank account isnt as fat as it once was.
 

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There are just too many to list....
I tend to view them as a "CUV", sometimes I call them crossdressers. But semantics aside, they are very much a "car" and not a "truck" even though the top side looks may say different... the underpinnings tell the real truth. Subaru, aside from the BRZ, only really has two platforms, the small Impreza based stuff, and the larger Legacy-based stuff. They don't sell a truck here. They're all cars. \

And the CRV is based on the Civic.... again, Honda doesn't sell trucks. The Ridgeline is a large ugly sedan with its trunk lid removed. Its underpinnings are all sprung from the Accord, same as the Odyssey, Pilot, and Passport.

I only bring this up because a lot of people (and we see this in our shop all the time) try and task these CUVs with things that they really are not intended to do, or are at the far reaches of their ability to do. A stripper, optionless, most base model F150 will out haul, out tow, ANY Ridgeline and not even break a sweat doing so. And it'll cost less to boot. Because it's actually a truck. Old school, low tech, beefy, simple, sturdy.

So with the Q5, regardless of what is under the hood, think of it as a modified A4, not a smaller Q7. And you'll probably be happier with it. Although the actual Audi cars are nicer to drive. They accelerate better, handle MUCH better, and cruise at high speed better. I'd say the only thing the Q5 has going for it is it does have a wee bit more ground clearance if that is of concern to you, and I'm sure some will say it is easier to get in and out of. Some people also feel they need to sit 'higher', not quite sure why.
 

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There are just too many to list....
And just so nobody thinks I'm talking out my butt on Audi models, this is my current morning lineup:

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I service a LOT of Audis... most are gassers, of course.
 

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Thanks @oilhammer. Yes, I was aware of the car-based platform stuff. She's a small lady and likes sitting higher in my Jeep for visibility. Maybe it's the woman equivalent of men making up for 'issues' by driving big loud trucks?;)

Her only offroading would be our 50ft gravel driveway. No towing, hauling, or even heavy loading. Just the two of us now and 600mi visits to see our daughter.

So, Q5/X3d/GLK250 all seem to fit. Just trying to get a sense of which has more longevity since they are essentially same $ and features.
 

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Additionally...we always wanted a Diesel Tiguan but that never made it to US. That would have been perfect so all these are 2nd choice.
 

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I like the Ridgeline, but I can't help think of it as a minivan in disguise. Same as the current Pathfinder. Or the Telluride or Palisade. Makes me smile to myself when I see people driving those $50K cars, probably totally unaware of what the underpinnings are.

Regarding the Q5, we don't have much in the way of requests for parts for those for major repairs. They'll all need oil cooler seals at some point, but I think the repair on that engine is far easier than replacing the seals on the Mercedes V6 diesel.
 

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The X3d is an interesting option. However, it's fair to say that it's going to need more in the way or repairs and maintenance than the Audi, because BMW.
 

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We bought the X3d. Thanks for all the assistance offered in this thread. Now we have oil burners from 3 companies in our stable. VW, Jeep, and BMW.

We'll see which is actually more expensive going forward. As a former ASE Tech I can do most things myself. But, what I can't is very expensive regardless of manufacturer.

A Diesel Tiggy would have been perfect but they never made it to USA.
 

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Oilhammer I’m looking at maybe a 2014 A7. I live in WY so I plan to remove some troublesome bits….
Why 2015? It appears to be just before all of the sensors and assisted this and that.

i think Kerma is up in the mountains of Colorado.

What should I look for when shopping or just avoid them like the plague?

thanks!

Jud
 
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