If I manage to obtain the SKC through other means...will I be able to use kw1281test to adapt new keys? Following the directions laid out in post #1264? Even if kw1281test won't pull my SKC?It works with most but there are a few that do not. I should make a list.
Yeah, it should be able to do that. But since you have an Audi, the adaptation channel might be different. You'll have to research. Whatever channel you'd use in VCDS would be the same that you'd use in kw1281test.If I manage to obtain the SKC through other means...will I be able to use kw1281test to adapt new keys? Following the directions laid out in post #1264? Even if kw1281test won't pull my SKC?
I attempted adaptation save after getting my skc....it did not work...now my immobilizer light is blinking ... and all three keys start the car....fault code when scanned showsYeah, it should be able to do that. But since you have an Audi, the adaptation channel might be different. You'll have to research. Whatever channel you'd use in VCDS would be the same that you'd use in kw1281test.
I think you'd be better off asking about adapting keys in an Audi forum. I don't know much about them and how they differ from MKIV VWs.I attempted adaptation save after getting my skc....it did not work...now my immobilizer light is blinking ... and all three keys start the car....fault code when scanned shows
01179 - 35-00
Will the command Findlogins check if the SKC I pulled is incorrect/correct? ((Vcds allowed me to login with the SKC I had but I'm only using the shareware version and so I couldn't use it to adapt the new keys) it showed channel 21 so that's what I used)
Will AdaptationRead or AdaptationTest display how many keys are paired? How are these commands used and to what end?
The car is drivable right now... I'm assuming some how I shut off the immobilizer.
Alright thankyou.Sorry, but I don't know anything about Audis.
I think you'd be better off asking about adapting keys in an Audi forum. I don't know much about them and how they differ from MKIV VWs.
Yes, it should allow you to pull the SKC from either cluster, but you'll still need to figure out what's wrong with your gauges. kw1281test has generally worked with Marelli Beetle clusters though there are a few Marelli Audi clusters that aren't supported.Hello and thank you for providing what looks like the SKC solution I'm looking for.
My 03 beetle came (recent purchase) with a replaced inst. cluster (also received what I was told is the original cluster) and neither one has gauge functions ( the odometer works on both) when installed. I found this Ross Tech video on swapping clusters and hope to use my VCDS to get the replaced cluster to work. - ECM & cluster swapping
Will kw1281test program help me find the SKC with the replaced cluster?
I see that beetle clusters were made by Magneti Marelli, does that affect using this program?
One last ?, the link for the cable in the first post of this thread goes to a cable that's not available on Amazon, will this one work? - Amazon KKL cable
Thank you gmenounos for your reply.Yes, it should allow you to pull the SKC from either cluster, but you'll still need to figure out what's wrong with your gauges. kw1281test has generally worked with Marelli Beetle clusters though there are a few Marelli Audi clusters that aren't supported.
I think that Amazon FT232RL-based cable should work fine and will be supported on more computers than the CH341A cables.
As far as I know, matching the cluster to the car is not necessary for the gauges to work. And, yes, if the ECU has the immobilizer deleted then the car will start even if the cluster isn't matched to the ECU (but the cluster will display an immobilizer warning light).Thank you gmenounos for your reply.
My understanding was that the gauges don't work because the cluster is not matched to the car/ECU ?
The ECU has had the immobilizer "deleted", this is what is allowing the car to run and the key to work, would this be correct?
Thanks again for your help.As far as I know, matching the cluster to the car is not necessary for the gauges to work. And, yes, if the ECU has the immobilizer deleted then the car will start even if the cluster isn't matched to the ECU (but the cluster will display an immobilizer warning light).
I don't know much about Audi clusters. Try asking at http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/ or https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/index.phpHello, can anyone help me get out PIN CODE out of my dump for my a4b5 cluster? Didn't had any luck, was trying to convert last 2 bits before immo-id, but I might have done something incorrect, so I still can't access my pin code, could anyone help me out and explain a little bit more or get me the code? Haven't been familiar with HEX codes at all. Here is the download link for my dumps.
From what I understood, the pin for me was 01138, but it didn't work.
Here is also an image from the place, where I should get my pin code as I understood after reading the forum, but didn't get much success..
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As I understand from what I have read, It should be similar with beelte marelli clusters, so from the dump that I have gotten out of the cluster, can you take a look? maybe there is possibility to convert this pincode out of it?I don't know much about Audi clusters. Try asking at http://www.nefariousmotorsports.com/forum/ or https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/index.php
Try 02124As I understand from what I have read, It should be similar with beelte marelli clusters, so from the dump that I have gotten out of the cluster, can you take a look? maybe there is possibility to convert this pincode out of it?
Thank you! Yes, kw1281test made that dump!Try 02124
Did kw1281test make that dump? If so, please post your kw1281test.log file so that I can add support for that cluster.
Beetle clusters use 9600 baud, not 10400.Had a go using my KKL cable and COM4 today.
After getting the correct driver and working out I needed to alter the port in the request to COM4 I did get somewhere.
My aim is to retrieve the SKC code from my Beetle instrument cluster (no issues) and swap it for a custom Polo GTI unit.
I tried the GetSKC request - .\kw1281test.exe COM4 10400 17 GetSKC
Unfortunately with no result. Log shown below. Any ideas? TIA
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Version 0.99.4-beta (https://github.com/gmenounos/kw1281test/releases)
Args: COM4 10400 17 GetSKC
Thanks for the reply.Beetle clusters use 9600 baud, not 10400.
For unsupported Beetle clusters, you can try the following 2 commands:Thanks for the reply.
I changed the baud rate and got something back but I guess as the message suggests my cluster is unsupported?
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Version 0.99.4-beta (https://github.com/gmenounos/kw1281test/releases)
Args: COM4 9600 17 GetSKC
OSVersion: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19041.0
.NET Version: 9.0.0
Culture: en-GB
Opening Generic serial port COM4
Sending wakeup message
Reading sync byte
Keyword Lsb $01
Keyword Msb $8A
Protocol is KW 1281 (8N1)
ECU: 1C0920920F KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V08
Software Coding 05412, Workshop Code: 00050
Caught: System.InvalidOperationException Unsupported cluster version.
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Is there any other way than buying VAGTacho at ridiculous expens? I only intend to use it once.
kw1281test.exe COM4 9600 17 DumpMarelliMem 3072 1024
kw1281test.exe COM4 9600 17 DumpMarelliMem 14336 2048
Sadly both produced the timeout message but nothing moreFor unsupported Beetle clusters, you can try the following 2 commands:
kw1281test.exe COM4 9600 17 DumpMarelliMem 3072 1024
kw1281test.exe COM4 9600 17 DumpMarelliMem 14336 2048
Please report back if either of them is able to dump the cluster EEPROM and then I can add official support for your cluster.
It's not even getting past the initial connection to your cluster where it displays the cluster part number. What kind of cable are you using? Any chance you could try this on a different laptop or with a different cable?Sadly both produced the timeout message but nothing more
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Version 0.99.4-beta (https://github.com/gmenounos/kw1281test/releases)
Args: COM4 9600 17 DumpMarelliMem 3072 1024
OSVersion: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19041.0
.NET Version: 9.0.0
Culture: en-GB
Opening Generic serial port COM4
Sending wakeup message
Reading sync byte
Keyword Lsb $01
Keyword Msb $8A
Protocol is KW 1281 (8N1)
Error receiving block: The operation has timed out.
Partial block: $75 $8A $75 $8A
Read timeout: 8000
Write timeout: 8000
Error receiving blocks: The operation has timed out.
Caught: System.TimeoutException The operation has timed out.
Unhandled exception: System.TimeoutException: The operation has timed out.
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Version 0.99.4-beta (https://github.com/gmenounos/kw1281test/releases)
Args: COM9 10400 17 GetSKC
OSVersion: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19042.0
.NET Version: 9.0.0
Culture: en-US
Opening Generic serial port COM9
Sending wakeup message
Reading sync byte
Keyword Lsb $01
Keyword Msb $8A
Protocol is KW 1281 (8N1)
ECU: 1J0920900J A4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V26
Software Coding 07242, Workshop Code: 01287
Sending ReadIdent block
Sending Custom "Read Software Version" blocks
Sending Custom "Unlock Additional Commands" block
00: V599LLA $00 $03
01: $56 $35 $39 $39 $4C $4C $41 $20 $00 $03
02: $56 $35 $39 $39 $4C $4C $41 $20 $00 $03
03: V599LLA $00 $03
Sending Custom "Unlock partial EEPROM read" block
Unlock code for software version 'V599LLA 03.00' is 38 3F 40 35
Sending Custom "Get Access Level" block
Access level is unknown.
Sending Custom "Seed request" block
Sending Custom "Get Access Level" block
Access level is unknown.
Failed to unlock cluster.
Saving EEPROM dump to IMMO-IDENTNR_VWZ7Z0Y2254217________$0090_eeprom.bin
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $0090, Count: $10)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 36 4E 30 39 30 39 39 30 31 20 31 4A 30 39 32 30
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00A0, Count: $10)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 39 30 30 4A 20 20 41 34 56 32 36 39 56 57 5A 37
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00B0, Count: $10)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 5A 30 59 32 32 35 34 32 31 37 48 36 56 57 5A 37
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00C0, Count: $10)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 5A 30 59 32 32 35 34 32 31 37 48 36 56 57 5A 37
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00D0, Count: $10)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 5A 30 59 32 32 35 34 32 31 37 48 36 FF FF FF FF
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00E0, Count: $10)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00F0, Count: $10)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $0100, Count: $0C)
Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: FF FF 70 C2 70 C2 70 C2 71 C2 71 C2
Saved EEPROM dump to IMMO-IDENTNR_VWZ7Z0Y2254217________$0090_eeprom.bin
SKC: 03648
Sending EndCommunication block
6N0909901 1J0920900J A4V269VWZ7Z0Y2254217H6VWZ7Z0Y2254217H6VWZ7Z0Y2254217H6ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿpÂpÂpÂqÂqÂ
Unfortunately I haven't heard of either of those cable so I can't say how well they work with kw1281test.Using a KKL 3.01 cable. Got 3 here.
Plus KD+CAN genuine Gendam HEX V2.
Any good?
My Magic-8-Ball tells me that you're trying to login to address 25 with VCDS-Lite because the cluster is returning the helpful (if you speak German, which I don't, but I know how to use Google Translate) message "Bitte Adresse 17 eingeben", which means "Please use address 17".Long time listener, first time caller.
I've lurked for a long time, but now i'm stuck and hoping someone can shed some light.
I just picked up a 2000 VW GTI GLS, which only came with one key <insert standard spiel here>
I used kw1281test 0.99.4 to snag the SKC, but VCDS says it's incorrect.
Here's my kw1281test stdout:
Here's the contents of the immo-*.bin it saved:Code:Version 0.99.4-beta (https://github.com/gmenounos/kw1281test/releases) Args: COM9 10400 17 GetSKC OSVersion: Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19042.0 .NET Version: 9.0.0 Culture: en-US Opening Generic serial port COM9 Sending wakeup message Reading sync byte Keyword Lsb $01 Keyword Msb $8A Protocol is KW 1281 (8N1) ECU: 1J0920900J A4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V26 Software Coding 07242, Workshop Code: 01287 Sending ReadIdent block Sending Custom "Read Software Version" blocks Sending Custom "Unlock Additional Commands" block 00: V599LLA $00 $03 01: $56 $35 $39 $39 $4C $4C $41 $20 $00 $03 02: $56 $35 $39 $39 $4C $4C $41 $20 $00 $03 03: V599LLA $00 $03 Sending Custom "Unlock partial EEPROM read" block Unlock code for software version 'V599LLA 03.00' is 38 3F 40 35 Sending Custom "Get Access Level" block Access level is unknown. Sending Custom "Seed request" block Sending Custom "Get Access Level" block Access level is unknown. Failed to unlock cluster. Saving EEPROM dump to IMMO-IDENTNR_VWZ7Z0Y2254217________$0090_eeprom.bin Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $0090, Count: $10) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 36 4E 30 39 30 39 39 30 31 20 31 4A 30 39 32 30 Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00A0, Count: $10) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 39 30 30 4A 20 20 41 34 56 32 36 39 56 57 5A 37 Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00B0, Count: $10) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 5A 30 59 32 32 35 34 32 31 37 48 36 56 57 5A 37 Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00C0, Count: $10) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 5A 30 59 32 32 35 34 32 31 37 48 36 56 57 5A 37 Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00D0, Count: $10) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: 5A 30 59 32 32 35 34 32 31 37 48 36 FF FF FF FF Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00E0, Count: $10) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $00F0, Count: $10) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF Sending ReadEeprom block (Address: $0100, Count: $0C) Received "Read ROM/EEPROM Response" block: FF FF 70 C2 70 C2 70 C2 71 C2 71 C2 Saved EEPROM dump to IMMO-IDENTNR_VWZ7Z0Y2254217________$0090_eeprom.bin SKC: 03648 Sending EndCommunication block
Attempt to use the SKC in VCDS:Code:6N0909901 1J0920900J A4V269VWZ7Z0Y2254217H6VWZ7Z0Y2254217H6VWZ7Z0Y2254217H6ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿpÂpÂpÂqÂqÂ
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YOU SHALL NOT PASS:
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My bad, I thought these args pulled SKC from address 17:My Magic-8-Ball tells me that you're trying to login to address 25 with VCDS-Lite because the cluster is returning the helpful (if you speak German, which I don't, but I know how to use Google Translate) message "Bitte Adresse 17 eingeben", which means "Please use address 17".
It did pull the SKC from address 17 but then you connected to address 25 with VCDS-Lite. Click on the "17-Instruments" button, not the "25-Immobilizer" button. 25 is mostly for cars with a dedicated immobilizer box independent from the instrument cluster. All the MKIV cars in the US that I know of have the immobilizer integrated into the cluster so you use address 17 for general cluster stuff and immobilizer stuff.My bad, I thought these args pulled SKC from address 17:
Args: COM9 10400 17 GetSKC