Just picked up fuel filter from stealer IT'S MADE IN CHINA

[terrydtdi]

That's the last OEM fuel filter I'm getting . I think it's time to go with the CAT 2

 

[leicaman]

Heck I just got a new from the dealer water pump for my '99 Saturn and it too is marked "Made in China". If you want to change something you'll have to run for congress and hope a bunch of like minded folks do the same. If not, get used to it.

 

[DoctorDawg]

So what isn't made in China? Heck, my last kid was made there....

 

[2004STARWARSTDI]

Non Chinese

So what isn't made in China? Heck, my last kid was made there....

Believe it or not but Chopsticks are made in the USA! Maybe we should add lead to them and poison the Chinese.

 

[vwrobert51]

no worry!!! the china made filters are just as good as the german ones! its made in the china VW factory, and has the same quality , havant had a problem yet, and further your only going to use it for 20K and then toss it out.

 

[Honeydew]

That's the last OEM fuel filter I'm getting . I think it's time to go with the CAT 2

Yep!!

 

[DoctorDawg]

no worry!!! the china made filters are just as good as the german ones! its made in the china VW factory, and has the same quality

Just don't eat it....

 

[Bob_Fout]

Just don't eat it....

Lead helps filter the oil, right?

 

[vwrobert51]

no, but its good with baby milk and white rabbit candy!!!! but give them a break! they are trying to catch up with the rest of the world, and at time some of the old ways of doing things still show up. and you know HEADS ARE GOING TO ROLL OVER THIS ONE

 

[tdireader]

The OEM seem to be going Chinese.

If you want a a "deutsches" filter, check impex, tdiparts, etc for your favorite alternative.

 

[aja8888]

Our economy keeps the Chinese economy growing by us buying their stuff. Get used to it, Made In China is not going away anytime soon.

 

[gearhead]

If I have a choice, I'd not buy a thing from China.

 

[terrydtdi]

Pretty soon I think we'll start seeing

FORD , and CHEVEROLET MADE IN CHINA

 

[keggo]

Pretty soon I think we'll start seeing

FORD , and CHEVEROLET MADE IN CHINA

As opposed to the already Hecho En Mexico? What's the point of your argument? I've purchased plenty of Made in U.S.A. items that were crap. I'd say 80% of your everyday items are "Made in China". Of course the world's largest producer of general use items will have slips sometimes. The only problem is, when they slip, it affects more people than say... if a smaller U.S. producer messes up. I have no problem buying things that are made overseas. What I do have a problem with is people that say they would "refuse" to buy said items. Here's a simple solution... build a factory and produce items your damn selves.

 

[DoctorDawg]

Of course the world's largest producer of general use items will have slips sometimes.

I don't mean this to be a tirade...in general I'm right pleased to see previously impoverished countries spotting economic opportunities, grabbing them, and thus pulling themselves up the ladder so's I don't have to pay them welfare....

BUT:the recent spate of adulteration stories coming out of China can't by any means be called 'slips'...more like 'reckless endangerment':

• Heparin, an important blood-thinning drug used worldwide (and also used in medical products such as dialysis tubing, cardiac stents, etc.), is now manufactured almost exclusively in China (from pig intestines). Somebody clever over there figgered out that there's a much cheaper chemical, oversulfated chondroitin sulfate (OCS), which is indistinguishable from heparin in the usual quality control chemical tests, but which will, unfortunately, prolly kill you if you get it in your blood stream. That somebody apparently started systematically adulterating their product with OCS (Chinese heparin recently analyzed by FDA contained from 5% to 20% OCS...a nice little profit booster). A coupla hundred people in the U.S. alone have died after receiving adulterated heparin (http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/heparin/adverse_events.htm).
• The most recent story (melamine adulteration of milk) is prolly familiar enough that I don't need to detail it here, except to point out that the song remains the same: melamine (a poisonous industrial chemical) is indistinguishable from milk protein in the usual quality control tests. Milk producers get paid, in part, based on the protein content of their milk. It now appears that Chinese milk has been adulterated with melamine for a coupla years now.

My point is merely that we're not talkin about some dumb factory worker accidentally spilling a sack of stuff into the mix and not telling anybody. We're talkin about systematic reckless endangerment on a global scale over a span of years. Its important that we not just shrug and say, "oh well, accidents happen" - these (and many other incidents) weren't accidents. Its important that we insist that China step up to the plate and implement real and effective 21st century-quality regulation of its industries and a real and effective judicial system to back it up if China wants to be a 21st century player. Yes, the robber barons of the 1800s in the U.S. killed and harmed people pretty indiscriminently just to make a buck, but that was then and this is now. Chinese capitalists are prolly neither more nor less larcenous than their American or European counterparts; the difference is that America and Europe have the good sense to impose some effective controls against the worst aspects of human nature, whereas the Chinese not only don't, but furthermore turn a blind eye to local officials who are massively on the take.

In at least a half-hearted effort to bring this post back on-topic, my point is this: if you want to buy something made in China and the product involved can't really hurt much of anything if it grossly malfunctions...say, a ballpoint pen, or a coat hook...great, go for it. But if the product in question really really needs to work right and be manufactured according to rigorous specs, or else people (or engines?) die...well, its worth thinking twice about 'Made in China' until such time as the Chinese gommint gets its act together and decides to join the rest of us here in the 21st Century. If they can put men into space and bring 'em back again in one piece, they can sure as hell make sure their milk won't kill babies (and their fuel filters will actually filter fuel). The problem right now is, they simply don't care to do so...because it would hit their profit margins and make it harder for petty bureaucrats to line their pockets (thus undermining the power of the central government). So for hi-tech and mission-critical products from China: buyer beware until further notice.

 

[terrydtdi]

As opposed to the already Hecho En Mexico? What's the point of your argument? I've purchased plenty of Made in U.S.A. items that were crap. I'd say 80% of your everyday items are "Made in China". Of course the world's largest producer of general use items will have slips sometimes. The only problem is, when they slip, it affects more people than say... if a smaller U.S. producer messes up. I have no problem buying things that are made overseas. What I do have a problem with is people that say they would "refuse" to buy said items. Here's a simple solution... build a factory and produce items your damn selves.

Let me give you an idea of some of the reasons why I feel the way I do.
We (the United States) purchased some Port Cranes from China , the inspector for the purchaser went over to China to perform inspections periodically. When he was there in one week there was 5 deaths on site, (which was fairly common)they have total reckless regard for the safety of the workers. When assembling these cranes once they arrive ,any lifting shakles or cables used to erect the cranes would be trashed.They are to unsafe to use!

They are reluctant to come mainstream with the rest of the industrialized countries , with less than subpar ,components,ingredients,and materials in many of the products they make .

They are not held to the same standards as the rest of the industrial nations, that's why they're products are so CHEAP!

Many times you are not getting the quality product you think your getting .

BTW : I wonder how many workers were killed building the "BIRDS NEST".

 

[XXX_er]

If I have a choice, I'd not buy a thing from China.

does anybody remember not buying german cuz of the WWII thing ?

 

[09tdiman]

curious where do u get cat filters? they arent on cat.com
will they work with 09's?

 

[Honeydew]

curious where do u get cat filters? they arent on cat.com
will they work with 09's?

http://lubricationspecialist.com/front/shop.aspx?catid=8&parentid=0

I don't know if the kit will work in the 09.

 

[Dieselgeek]

All of the Mann filters for the BRM and 2009 common rail engine are made in Germany FWIW.

 

[BKmetz]

I bought a Mann air filter at the OH fest, it says 'Made in China' on it. The VW air filters I have bought at the dealership say 'Made in Bosnia-Herzegovina.'

So who knows what is sourced from where in this global economy.

 

[ScorpionBoy]

my last cabin filter was MIC, suckage.
my fuel filter was made in Spain.

 

[Pat Dolan]

Since VW was the first major multination to set up in China and is the #1 auto manufacturer - and I believe at this point in time, GM is #2 with a bullet - you shouldn't be surprised that OEM parts (mostly from suppliers) have followed as well.

Are Chinese products of inferior quality? We are talking of 1/4 of the entire world. There are going to be good a bad suppliers. Are Chinese businessmen unscrupulous? No more so than the lovelies who gave us Enron, Worldcomm, Love Canal, Thalidomide, exploding Pintos, etc. A LOT of Chinese industrial stuff is no where near Western standards, but just a few decades ago, nothing here was anywhere near current standards either.

They are going through the same developmental steps and learning curves as every other developing or developed nation. The difference is we now have the advantage of hindsight (and a short memory), as well as fantastic communications that didn't exist a short while ago.

Personally, I will continue to buy German-made filters whenever I can, but I doubt there is any real advantage for Joe Average (who keeps his car a far shorter time).

 

[WaynesTDI]

They are going through the same developmental steps and learning curves as every other developing or developed nation. The difference is we now have the advantage of hindsight (and a short memory), as well as fantastic communications that didn't exist a short while ago.

Well said. The "American only" folks need to read some US history -- not only did "we" do all the same things to become an economic power, a case can be made that Americans were actually worse than the Chinese, because back in the day, the rest of the world didn't care how many people you killed to get them cheap stuff, nor did they have any way of finding out..

Back in the days of robber barons, US businesses killed lots of people, directly and indirectly. And keep in mind that the economy was a tiny fraction of what it is now -- the number of lives cost per dollar of profit was much higher than today.

 

[DoctorDawg]

Well said. The "American only" folks need to read some US history -- not only did "we" do all the same things to become an economic power, a case can be made that Americans were actually worse than the Chinese, because back in the day, the rest of the world didn't care how many people you killed to get them cheap stuff, nor did they have any way of finding out..

That was then; this is now. Since then the rules have changed, and if you want to play the new game you have to follow the new rules. It is equally true that back during the Inquisition, Christian churchmen tortured people to death on the rack, in the Iron Maiden, and in many more gruesome ways. Nonetheless, no reasonable person today would say, regarding a 'new' religion which specializes in torturing its adherents, "Well, you know, that's how Christianity started out, too, so its only fair...."

 

[Gil]

The biggest reason companies move off shore is to get away from taxes and regulations that we have here.
I hope we will be happy with what Washington and the States have done to us or for us.
Enjoy the candy that isn't made here anymore. Think sugar tax.

 

[dr_p]

talk to any VW tech regarding the chinese filters. while 1 person (n=1) may get one that was fine, people who handle them on a daily basis will tell you that more often than not the hookup fittings around the thermostatic 't' fitting are poorly shaped and require a little 'love' to get snapped in. if i were buying one i would prefer one made in germany, austria, argentina, or wherever over the chinese one, not because everything in china is poorly made, but because so far vw diesel fuel filters have been finshed somewhat less than perfect.

 

[NarfBLAST]

I've got a Bosch from Spain and a Mahle from Austria... I did some vacuum testing on the bench on both with a new thermostatic tee and both hold vacuum. One of these days will change the dealer one out of the car and see where it is from and test it for vacuum (air leaks) that I suspect is why I have so much air in my lines.

 

[Powder Hound]

The biggest reason companies move off shore is to get away from taxes and regulations that we have here.

I submit that high labor prices are at least as large if not a larger factor.

...Enjoy the candy that isn't made here anymore. Think sugar tax.

The IRS doesn't miss a trick. Imported sugar, in any form, whether part of candy or not, is taxed the same. The difference is seen in domestic candy using converted corn starch (known as "corn syrup" or "high fructose corn syrup") instead of sucrose from cane or beets. Ever wonder why soft drinks or other food products using sweeteners almost always use corn sweeteners instead of sugar?

 

[Powder Hound]

...BUT:the recent spate of adulteration stories coming out of China can't by any means be called 'slips'...more like 'reckless endangerment':...

Hear, hear! You can hardly call it a slip when proper technology was nearly given away, and expertise also given for far less than the cost of developing said technologies.

China has demonstrated a complete disregard for patents, copyrights, and any other intellectual properties of all descriptions. And followed any complaints up with a singular reply of silence, or an implied suggestion that your next conjugal partner ought to be your mother or yourself.

Anyone happy with such trade arrangements is deranged.