just got a settlement info packet from VW

[langer]

We received one for my husband's Jetta that he traded in a year and a half ago for an A6.
I have yet to get anything at all for my A3. I've had recent dealer service, completed the initial registration on the settlement website, registered for the goodwill package, etc. You'd think that would be higher up on the radar.
Has anyone else with an A3 received one?

Received our packet for a3 over the weekend.

 

[lvfnchs]

Just got my settlement package, 2 of them mailed to me; others reporting also getting extra copies of the paperwork.

Completed the online registration, created my account and I have opted for the buyback which emailed me immediately with the Nov 1 Buyback date.

November is a long way to go.

No way I could turn down that kind of cash on a car with over 140,000 miles.

Some are still pissed though.

The bigger question for me is the replacement vehicle. Lots of research and test drives ahead.

I'm in the exact same boat as you! My 2011 Golf TDI has over 140,000 miles on it and they're offering around $15k. Can't really turn that down no matter how much I love the car.

Edited to add I received my package in the mail over the weekend too.

 

[evoblade]

Do I need to register to get the buyback package if I already did so to get the $500 gift card?

 

[grawk]

Do I need to register to get the buyback package if I already did so to get the $500 gift card?

yes you do

 

[Sankar]

Got the package this weekend.
I'm not interested in the buyback - have indicated that I'll wait to hear about the fix.

 

[DubFamily]

I don't know how many miles you have on your car but the mileage adjustment seems fair to me. Your car has carted you around for many miles by now. Try selling in on the open market and see what you'll get for it. My 2013 Jetta has almost 20k miles on it. When I turn it in to VW in the next few months or so it'll still be nearly new. I have no kids to tear up the insides and seldom have a passenger other than my 14yo rat terrier and he's blind and never chews on anything. Supposing that your car is the same year as mine with over 100k miles and VW resell these cars in another market - which one do you think will net them more money?

I keep reading about how some of you have all but driven the wheels off your cars yet expect the same settlement as low mileage cars. Don't you get it? Some of you have all but used your car up yet you expect MSRP or more for them. Not trying to start a ****storm - I just don't 'get' the logic.

There are 2 primary trains of thought on this issue:

1. TDIs are best on long distances. Most people understand this when they buy one, and buy it with the plan of driving it long distances. VW knows this, they market specifically to it; so for them to "punish" people for doing exactly what they sold them the car for is a low blow, so to speak. Additionally; VW's mileage deductions are higher than the "market average" so they are hitting owners even harder than would be done via KBB or NADA, for example.

2. The fraud VW committed began from the moment each owner started their engine and drove off the lot. People who bought these cars for a fun, efficient, AND green car were causing more damage the more they drove, but never knew it. Following this logic; the most "damage" was done by cars driven higher mileage; so the "value" of these cars shouldn't be decreased as the greater fraud was perpetrated against them. (IE mileage should not be counted).

Not saying either of those is "right," just that they seem to be the 2 general thought paths regarding the mileage issue.

 

[k1xv]

Under what theory does driving more, thereby inflicting more "environmental damage", entitle the driver to a higher reward? As the "damage" was inflicted on the public at large, and not the specific driver, driving more should result in a greater fine, and a lesser reward on the person inflicting the damage by driving.

In reality, the mileage adjustment has nothing to do with the fraud element. Your payment over and above book value is your fraud award. The mileage adjustment is an adjustment to the NADA value of the car they are paying. The less you drove it, the more its worth, and vice versa.

 

[Airpizz6]

There are 2 primary trains of thought on this issue:


2. The fraud VW committed began from the moment each owner started their engine and drove off the lot. People who bought these cars for a fun, efficient, AND green car were causing more damage the more they drove, but never knew it. Following this logic; the most "damage" was done by cars driven higher mileage; so the "value" of these cars shouldn't be decreased as the greater fraud was perpetrated against them. (IE mileage should not be counted).
.

If there is anything bordering on logic here, I i don't see it. So you are driving with a broken speedometer, tach, GPS over 100 MPH. But since you don't know it, you should be given a pass? No logic here either.

 

[rotts4u]

I received 3 more packages from VW now plus the 1-2 last week plus the 3-4 my wife received for her Audi. I think we are up to about 9 of them total.

 

[Airpizz6]

I received 3 more packages from VW now plus the 1-2 last week plus the 3-4 my wife received for her Audi. I think we are up to about 9 of them total.

There's one agency loving this: the USPS. 435,000 TDIs with 3 or 4 packets for each. They might break even this year.

 

[edge130]

Market value vs Clean Trade In Value

Did anyone notice the language in footnote 2 used on page 7 of the booklet?
2. "For Eligible Owners, Vehicle Value is based upon pre-September 18, 20015 market value adjusted for options and mileage."
I notice the absence of the always referred to phrase "clean trade in value".
Does "market value" mean retail?
Just something I picked up and seems odd, since I never read or heard this "market value" reference before.

 

[grawk]

market value means clean trade value, and has been discussed here slightly more often than there are stars in the sky

 

[ecupip]

yes you do

Not true. They send the package to anyone that was ever associated with a VIN that qualifies for the buyback. I know someone that got the package in the mail and he never owned one, only took it in for service once for someone else years ago.

 

[Coal Roller]

Did the online "registration" and got back that VW will pay off my $20,300 remaining on the 0% interest loan from VW Financial Services plus give me $6930. So that means going back to square one with a car loan. I chose the "fix" option. I LOVE THIS CAR! It's my first "car" since my '67 BelAir back in 1970. When I can go 538 miles on 14 gallons of "fuel" driving 75-80 on the interstate what's out there than can compare? A friggin PRIUS? Sorry, NFW. Besides I don't do "Nippon". I checked into a BMW diesel and Heyzeus H. Chrysler do they get a lot of dough for one of those.
So I'm going to "stand pat" at this point. See just what the "fix" turns out to be. If I can swing it VW will NEVER touch this car. So far my "diesel guru" is the only one that has.

 

[HBarlow]

Did the online "registration" and got back that VW will pay off my $20,300 remaining on the 0% interest loan from VW Financial Services plus give me $6930. So that means going back to square one with a car loan. I chose the "fix" option. I LOVE THIS CAR! It's my first "car" since my '67 BelAir back in 1970. When I can go 538 miles on 14 gallons of "fuel" driving 75-80 on the interstate what's out there than can compare? A friggin PRIUS? Sorry, NFW. Besides I don't do "Nippon". I checked into a BMW diesel and Heyzeus H. Chrysler do they get a lot of dough for one of those.
So I'm going to "stand pat" at this point. See just what the "fix" turns out to be. If I can swing it VW will NEVER touch this car. So far my "diesel guru" is the only one that has.

I agree with your analysis and decision. If my VW TDI was newer with low mileage I would have made the same choice. In my case I love my second hand '09 but with 112k miles and about $2k in timing belt and 120k service looming along with concern about replacing the dpf-cat converter before long I decided to take the freebie and run . . . to another TDI.

 

[morpheus]

As most of you can see, i'm a lurker, not posting much. I've received my packet and registered.

2010 Sportwagen ... 8685 original miles, as of 8-18-16, and hasn't been moved. 6 speed, no nav or sunroof.

VW offer: $15,300.00 for the vehicle.

$ 6,046.73 Cash payment.

Total: $21,346.73

Spoke with the VW lawyer this morning. My question was, and I realize this won't apply to everyone........

What about the following payback for these?

1. NJ sales tax.... $1,680.00

2. NJ registration transfer and tags.... $246.00, PLUS $99.00 dealer clerical/documentary fees.

3. NJ tire fee... 1.50 per tire/ $7.50.

Total: $1,933.50

The lawyer, Zack Bowler informed me that these out of pocket expenses, I paid, will not be refunded by VW

The problem is this, subtracting these figures from the 6,046.83, brings the cash payment down to $4,113.23, which is below the "minimum" stated by VW of $5,100.00.

Has anyone spoken with their VW area rep and questioned this? While not all states don't have these charges, common sense tells me that most will have them.

Waiting for other examples from TDI owners.

morpheus

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

I'm impressed. How have you managed to drive a '10 only 8,600 miles? Did you purchase new?

 

[DanB36]

What are those other costs? Are they things you paid when you bought the car? Because that's what they sound like. No, you don't get separately reimbursed for those, and no, they don't reduce the restitution payment--the restitution payment is calculated the same way for everyone, and has nothing to do with any amount you paid for the car, whether as part of the car's price or any additional cost. Yes, most (I'd bet all) of us paid some additional fee and/or tax over the stated price when we bought our cars, and no, none of us will be separately reimbursed for them.

Your reference to the "cash payment" is somewhat ambiguous--you get a cash payment of (using your numbers) $21,346.73, minus any loan balance you may have.

 

[Airpizz6]

Morpheus, Why is the car sitting in the garage? You are getting the max mileage adjustment possible. And that would still be the case, if you put another 10K on it. Why not drive it and save money rather than complaining about not getting separately reimbursed for taxes?

 

[BuyMeBackSoon]

I don't think that a 2010 Sportwagen gets you $21K .

 

[Airpizz6]

I don't think that a 2010 Sportwagen gets you $21K .

Certainly will if it truly only has 8600 miles on the clock. Huge low mileage adjustment.

 

[mydecember1985]

I don't think that a 2010 Sportwagen gets you $21K .

I seriously think he's got a '10 JSW with 80,000 miles! Calculator returns ~$15.6k He's probably thinking that he's getting both the buyback and the "fix" restitution. Adding the two of them together. The calculator shows a fix value of only ~$5500 though, so I'm not sure where the $6k payment figure comes from.

I have now talked to 3 out of 4 owners at gas stations that are totally WRONG about how much they are getting back.

 

[DanB36]

I seriously think he's got a '10 JSW with 80,000 miles!

...or he could have exactly what he says he has, which would result in his getting exactly what he says he's getting. Seriously, it takes all of about 30 seconds to plug the numbers into byebyetdi.us and see that he's spot on.

 

[grawk]

pretty prescient to buy a car in 2010 and park it knowing that there would be a scandal that later led to a settlement based on mileage.

On the other hand, why do people feel like they should get paid back for sales tax?

 

[chadbag]

pretty prescient to buy a car in 2010 and park it knowing that there would be a scandal that later led to a settlement based on mileage.

On the other hand, why do people feel like they should get paid back for sales tax?

Because due to VWs actions, they are needing to buy a new car they did not plan on and so instead of amortizing the sales tax paid over 7-10 years, it was amortized over 2-3 years and they have to do it again.

(spare me the talk of keeping, etc. The car is "damaged" goods and won't have the same resale when 7-8 years old like it would have otherwise)

 

[grawk]

(spare me the talk of keeping, etc. The car is "damaged" goods and won't have the same resale when 7-8 years old like it would have otherwise)

That's what the $5100+ fix money is for.

 

[chadbag]

That's what the $5100+ fix money is for.

I never disagreed with that. That was my statement to those who would say "just keep it." That does not change the sales tax issue which is an issue of making a person whole on their actual loss of the vehicle in some peoples' minds.

 

[foggedz]

I have my packet, and have not done anything with it yet. I plan to sell the car back, but not until 2018. From what I have read I have until Sept 2018 to login and file my claim. Is that true, or do I need to do something now, even if I dont want to sell the car back until 2018?

 

[Airpizz6]

I have my packet, and have not done anything with it yet. I plan to sell the car back, but not until 2018. From what I have read I have until Sept 2018 to login and file my claim. Is that true, or do I need to do something now, even if I dont want to sell the car back until 2018?

Yep, you have to 1 Sep 18 to register on the portal. If you have already decided on the buyback without seeing the offer, why wait to register? You can change your mind later. Some on this forum think VW will be dead and buried by '18. If something that extreme actually happens, there is a good chance the portal would no longer be operating.

 

[foggedz]

Yep, you have to 1 Sep 18 to register on the portal. If you have already decided on the buyback without seeing the offer, why wait to register? You can change your mind later. Some on this forum think VW will be dead and buried by '18. If something that extreme actually happens, there is a good chance the portal would no longer be operating.

OK, that was what I thought. I went to byebyetdi.us and entered my info a month or so ago. It said total buy back value would be $22,307, and that seemed in line with others that had the same model/options claimed for a buy back.

Im not worried about VW going under anytime soon, so I like my chances of selling the car back in 2018. I will probably register in the next few weeks, I just wanted to make sure I was not missing some deadline this month.