joe schmoe
Well-known member
Nope, keeping my 2012 Jetta...Just waiting on the fix...
Is any one keeping their TDI
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phspman
Member
Wait and see strategy for the fix. Definitely wanna keep my car. 2014 Jetta with 31,000 miles. Such a badass car! I only drive it half the year.
If the fix sucks, buyback and get a gas Jetta. I live in Texas though, no em regs. Best car for Texas too.
If it doesn't suck, get the monies to pay off the rest of my car so I can focus that $500 a month on student loans (been paying $1000 a month to pay off before the deadline). Once the loans are paid off, I'm getting a truck and a house. Truck to haul things, Jetta to save money because by the time that comes around, gas will be expensive again. OPEC just agreed to cut and the oil price is up!
If the fix sucks, buyback and get a gas Jetta. I live in Texas though, no em regs. Best car for Texas too.
If it doesn't suck, get the monies to pay off the rest of my car so I can focus that $500 a month on student loans (been paying $1000 a month to pay off before the deadline). Once the loans are paid off, I'm getting a truck and a house. Truck to haul things, Jetta to save money because by the time that comes around, gas will be expensive again. OPEC just agreed to cut and the oil price is up!
BILLVO
Well-known member
We want to keep ours as well but does one have to have the emissions update done in order to get the restitution payment? i have read through the papers several times but legal jargin baffles me.
meerschm
Top Post Dawg
- Joined
- Apr 18, 2009
- Location
- Fairfax county VA
- TDI
- 2009 Jetta wagon DSG 08/08 205k buyback 1/8/18; replaced with 2017 Golf Wagon 4mo 1.8l CXBB
yes, the restitution is only paid after the "fix" is applied. (once it is approved)
BILLVO
Well-known member
Thanks for the info Meerschm.
MonsterTDI09
TDIClub Enthusiast, Veteran Member
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2009
- Location
- NoVa/NJ
- TDI
- 2010 Jetta DSG/ up keep on 2009 Jetta DSG 2006 Jetta Pag 2 in North SEA Green
The thought of taking the buy back money never enter my mind. There nothing out there like it. Why go back into debt. People think it a great deal but in the long run they'll loose.
ezshift5
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Sep 2, 2003
- Location
- West Coast
- TDI
- 2013 JSW TDI (Enroute BB).......2017 Jetta 1.4 turbo 5M ....................
......actually, it depends on one's definition of "keep"................
VW is allowing almost two years - IIRC.
This sailor has no complaints.
Holidays best,
ez
VW is allowing almost two years - IIRC.
This sailor has no complaints.
Holidays best,
ez
VeeDubTDI
Wanderluster, Traveler, TDIClub Enthusiast
In some cases, the money is more than people paid for their cars in the first place. In almost all cases, people have the very rare opportunity to drive their cars depreciation-free through 2018. Combine that with some of the recurring issues that TDIs have, expensive repair bills, and incompetent Volkswagen service, and the buyback starts to look pretty attractive.
Does it make sense for everyone? No. That's why there are options for people to choose from.
AboveBeyond
Well-known member
Keeping until latest possible date, Sept 1, 2018.
If I keep it, I'm worried about how the modification fix will affect the performance. If i'm getting 38-40mpg now and the modification reduces it to 30-32mpg, then it's a big reason NOT to keep it.
If I keep it, I'm worried about how the modification fix will affect the performance. If i'm getting 38-40mpg now and the modification reduces it to 30-32mpg, then it's a big reason NOT to keep it.
Rapshire
Member
Adios VW
My Golf TDi had been a great car but I'm done with it... Can't trust a fix whatever that might be. Taking over the wife's BMW 530i... She'll get another dream car and it won't be VW.... Being from Germany she's outraged by the whole affair and refuses to reward them for what they did.
Thank you, VW, for the reasonable buy-back and goodwill cards. Maybe I'll come back some day.
Moving on for now, brother... Moving on.
My Golf TDi had been a great car but I'm done with it... Can't trust a fix whatever that might be. Taking over the wife's BMW 530i... She'll get another dream car and it won't be VW.... Being from Germany she's outraged by the whole affair and refuses to reward them for what they did.
Thank you, VW, for the reasonable buy-back and goodwill cards. Maybe I'll come back some day.
Moving on for now, brother... Moving on.
gulfcoastguy
Veteran Member
They have until March to come up with a fix that is acceptable to me. At that time I officially change my mind and go for the buyout.
Exactly my same thoughts, I haven't completed the form yet, have it filled out to the part before you have to submit it.. but haven't chose repair vs buyback yet.
Want to see if there's a repair for it, if so, what the effects are, and then decide from there.
gmcjetpilot
Veteran Member
You can always un-mod it.
However what if they put DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) or AdBlue or Urea injection system in? Say they install a DEF
system in, might make it better. Of course they are going to have to install a
10 Gal fuel tank to make room for 4 gal DEF tank. However it might maintain
performance (power, MPG) or even improve it, especially if they take the
DPF out.
Of course they don't have any fixes yet for Gen 1 or 2. However it is thought
Gen 2 is easier, but it may turn out Gen 1 DPF + DEF might be the CLEAN
diesel always promised. This is what Benz and BMW do, they have both
DPF and DEF. I believe it is not a matter of if it can be done, but a matter
of cost and practicality of retro fitting. The down side is the car will be far
more complex. Again I am side stepping it. I am keeping my car un-mod.
If things change before Sept 2018 I can change my mind, but as far as I
am concerned it never happened. Driving on....
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Random_Vibration
Veteran Member
Keeping mine for now because I can't think of anything I would want to replace it with. Any financial benefit of selling is small, won't have a significant meaning to my bottom line, and is more than offset by my personal satisfaction in owning the car. If I had a pre-DEF CR, I think I would sell due to potential HPFP issues down the road. I'll gamble with what I got. If I can't afford to gamble, I shouldn't have bought it in the first place. Maybe that will change in the future but that's where I sit.
TDI2017
Banned
That is not the last possible turn in date. The settlement closes on December 30, 2018.
coolbreeze
Veteran Member
Was going to hold on to my 2015 Golf and sell my 12 and 13, but when my offer came back for 28,000, which was 3500 more then I planned for, I can't pass up on the value. I purchased it for 15,000 in July. I'll sell it and by a 2012 GLI manual with 29,000 miles for 12,000 and pocket the rest.
DEAD-BROKE
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Oct 3, 2015
- Location
- florida ( sun coast )
- TDI
- 2013 passat TDI 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo-diesel
keeping the 13 passat sel, and the money VW will hand over will buy me
my long awaited fusion 1911 and maybe a lower end benelli 12G along
with enough ammo for a few range trips
my long awaited fusion 1911 and maybe a lower end benelli 12G along
with enough ammo for a few range trips
bluebus
Active member
Car is still new, as far as I'm concerned, and it's exactly the car I need right now. I'm keeping it and waiting for the fix. If the fix happens, I'll be able to put that money towards the car and pay it off sooner. If no fix becomes available, will take the buyback in 2018 when the car is paid off and will be able to pay cash for a decent replacement.
funstuie
Member
I have decided to keep the JSW. My lease is up on September and trying to find anything with as good mpg for the same sort of costs is really difficult and stressful so I am just going to Lee and put the money in savings.
pcskier
Member
There is a third option, don't take the fix and money, or the buyback, and just keep the car as is if you love it. If your state accepts the pollution mitigation money, they agree to not refuse to register your car or fail it on emissions. That part of the consent degree is kind of kept quiet because what the govt and CARB really want is to get the evil polluter off the road, or at least fixed. It's interesting that the whole vwcourtsettlement thing just tells you about the fix plus cash, or the buyback...but doesn't mention the third option.
Not something I'd do, but it is an option. Personally, I'm waiting two more years. Right now my buyback offer is $2,600 more than what I paid; If I manage my mileage, the buyback will increase another $600 in two years. So I'll have driven a free car for 4 years, plus a couple thousand toward fuel.
Win/Win.
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DEAD-BROKE
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Oct 3, 2015
- Location
- florida ( sun coast )
- TDI
- 2013 passat TDI 2.0-liter four-cylinder turbo-diesel
one other thing i'm wondering about is are we going to have to wait longer for our money.
or do we get it before the ''fix''
i'll admit i've been pretty slack keeping up with diesel gate. been remodeling my entire house and that takes up 90% of my time and there are a boat load of threads/post to sort through.
or do we get it before the ''fix''
i'll admit i've been pretty slack keeping up with diesel gate. been remodeling my entire house and that takes up 90% of my time and there are a boat load of threads/post to sort through.
DanB36
Veteran Member
If you opt for the fix, you'll be paid after the fix is done.
bobt2382
Veteran Member - TDIClub Contributor
Downloaded the repair modification paperwork, signed, notarized and submitted electronically today. We'll see if the docs are "accepted". In for the long wait for a possible VW response that they can't engineer a proper fix for our generation 1 TDIs.
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bobt2382
Veteran Member - TDIClub Contributor
That was quick....
Your acceptance of our offer is complete. We will notify you if EPA/CARB approve an emissions modification for your vehicle. Once an approved emissions modification is available, Volkswagen will then contact you regarding next steps.
Your acceptance of our offer is complete. We will notify you if EPA/CARB approve an emissions modification for your vehicle. Once an approved emissions modification is available, Volkswagen will then contact you regarding next steps.
Ooga
Well-known member
Im sitting here waiting for them to give me the when and where for the fix. trying to be relaxed...trying haha.
bobt2382
Veteran Member - TDIClub Contributor
I really want to see what the hardware changes may be, if any, for yours.
overseasSoul
New member
Hi, I have a 2009 Touareg TDI and a 2012 Passat TDI, both owned from new with each having about 150k. I've decided to keep the Passat and take the $5400 restitution as those really are highway miles and it looks and runs like new, and buyback value isn't worth it to me -I love this car and don't see how I could easily replace it. All paperwork is done, just waiting on the fix. My question is about the Touareg... its a "Gen1" car and I'm reading that it can't easily be fixed to be made compliant, even though it has SCR with urea injection. How can this be? Is there going to be restitution for these Gen1 vehicles 'cos I'd like to keep this one too if its financially favorable? I'd like to drive them both for 300k miles and then get an electric in about 5 years ;-)
DanB36
Veteran Member
That isn't an option, unless and until a fix is approved for them and you have the fix done.
bluebus
Active member
I would consider just keeping it and not taking the fix if I thought that my county would allow it to pass emissions. The state might take the mitigation money, but I don't know how that affects the county since some counties in VA have emissions testing and some don't. Mine does test. Also, it's hard to pass up that restitution payment and additional warranty on emissions components.