Is a leaky water pump covered under extended warranty?

Victor Huge

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Noted some wetness near the bottom of the block by the harmonic balancer and I'm figuring it's the water pump (the wetness coupled with a metallic rubbing sound which I suspect is the pump shroud has me questioning how long it's got left). I know the mileage limit is close to 200,000km for the timing belt but can anyone confirm how many years? Ten? If so, it should be warranty right?

I'm only at 120,000km for reference.
 

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which extended warranty? emissions? it should be under the powertrain which has expired in your case
 

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Generally wp and Tb components are a wear item not covered under emissions warrenty. It's 10 year or 120k Miles.
 

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Ah ok, thanks guys. Was calling the dealer today trying to figure it out if they'll warranty the water pump but couldn't get through, will probably have to do it myself and soon if I'm getting a bit of seeping.

Compared to the Alh, the timing belt job on the mk7 seems like it would be a little easier. If any of you have done it, wouldn't mind some advice/pointers. Thanks!
 

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Pointer: do not drain the coolant, as other people report issues with purging the system (I didn't). I just removed the water pump and replaced the coolant that drained that way. Just top the bottle before you start the engine, mine took almost a gallon back in.

Also, there are replacement metal impeller pumps
https://www.idparts.com/water-pump-cvca-crua-04l121011l-11220-p-10478.html
 

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It's just the solenoid won't do anything, there's no feed back, the ECU just notices the current of the coil, or if it's an open circuit.
 

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Seemed like such a good idea when I read the self study program years before i bought a mk7, but I think a 12v coolant heater would have done a lot more to warm the engine up quicker... That or an electric cabin heater. Absolutely not getting a variable pump when I replace it :)
 

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Seemed like such a good idea when I read the self study program years before i bought a mk7, but I think a 12v coolant heater would have done a lot more to warm the engine up quicker... That or an electric cabin heater. Absolutely not getting a variable pump when I replace it :)
i could not agree more. however i am on the fence about adding a frostheater... i am deathly afraid of these cooling systems to open it up like that. bad experience...
 

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I'm looking into heaters that have a pump built in to replace the 600w one it comes with. Check out "VVKB" not much info on them but I'll let you guys know how it goes if I order one!
 

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No, it just would install in the space of the old one (not to big, it should fit).

Also, confirmed with dealer, timing belt is not covered under the warranty... Sad face...
 

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ohhhh you mean the after run coolant pump,,,, in front of the motor right... I think you will throw codes for removing that one.
 

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According to my dealer, the the water pump is part of the long block assembly, so it is covered by the emissions extended warranty...
 

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mine said it isn't, amazing how each have a different response.

Their wording is if it doesn't come in contact with motor oil, and doesn't throw a CEL for a failure, it's a maintenance item and not covered under emissions warranty.

Now that was the answer a year or so ago,.
 

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1854sailor said:
According to my dealer, the the water pump is part of the long block assembly, so it is covered by the emissions extended warranty
this is the correct answer.
call VWoA and open a case.
 

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Realistically the hotter temperatures from the region can cause the electric water pump to go bad. Which is a result of the emissions modification. So the electric water pump should be covered under warranty. But the timing system is not. Nor the belt driven water pump if these have one. Yet if the motor is replaced it comes with the timing belt and everything on it new. So idk.
 

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proof of ordering an long block that comes with a full Timing belt/WP installed?

i heard contrary to that.
 

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proof of ordering an long block that comes with a full Timing belt/WP installed?

i heard contrary to that.
Without seeing it when it comes into the shop, no I don't have proof. It's just a theory. The theory based on when buying a long lock from an auto parts store. It had the timing system on it. But no water pump cuz that was serpentine driven
 

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so your last statement "So idk" sums up any interaction with VWoA perfectly on this situation.

Lol

btw the WP is TB driven on these TDIs.
 

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There's multiple coolant pumps on the EA288 TDI, the one that will damage the head if it fails with little to zero warning, is the one driven by the TB. This is the WP that VWoA likes to drag their feet on.

The rest will just give a code for open circuit or abnormal current draw and VWoA will warranty those under the extended emissions warranty,
 

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I think my tb driven wp has just taken a dump, 1/2 gallon of coolant in three days. 41k and its still under 5/50 powertrain warranty. I hope wp is a coered item
 

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that'd be a tough one for them to say no. Good luck
 

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thanks, dealer says they are familiar with the fubar pumps and will give me a new tb as well. new pumps are supposedly improved. Anyone see what they look like? No sliding sleave, metal impeller?
 

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thanks, dealer says they are familiar with the fubar pumps and will give me a new tb as well. new pumps are supposedly improved. Anyone see what they look like? No sliding sleave, metal impeller?
I looked into this 6 months ago. I looked up the latest superceded p/n for the pump before going to the dealer and asking to see the part. I had the impression that dealers at some point were stocking a non-shrouded version for replacement jobs because of the apparent incidence of shrouds sticking in the closed position. But this one was shrouded, so whether it was an improved version of the original or identical to the original wasn't clear. When I replace mine, I'll be interested to see how the original's shroud has fared.

I have to admit, I like the concept of the variable-flow pump even if the over-engineering nature of it is risky. I must have been a VW powertrain engineer in a previous life :)
 
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Is there any explanation why at 35f my golf s 2015 takes 4-5 miles to get cabin heat but my 2015 passat sel gets heat in 1/2 mile? thermostat? wp sleeve? Since wp is getting replaced, anything I should mention? golf s has only 41k miles.
 

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Is there any explanation why at 35f my golf s 2015 takes 4-5 miles to get cabin heat but my 2015 passat sel gets heat in 1/2 mile? thermostat? wp sleeve? Since wp is getting replaced, anything I should mention? golf s has only 41k miles.
Your Passat SEL most likely has the 1 KW auxiliary electric heating element. Both of our SE Golfs do...
 
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