Instrument Cluster Swap, now Power Steering doesn't work

dieselmani

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Hello, maybe someone can help me out.
I bought an Instrument Cluster on Ebay from an European 2006 Jetta TDI, same production year as my Jetta TDI, because I wanted to replace the MFD, because mine has a faulty display - it displays only 50% left side, right side is dark. I took it apart and sprayed the contacts with an electric cleaner, but it didn't help, so I bought a whole used Instrument Cluster. When the part arrived I realized it's a bit different type of display - it's divided into two parts, with the upper part showing the massages (like refuel, or replenish the windshield fluid etc.), and the lower Part with the MFD display.
So I wasn't able to swap the display, but I wanted to try what happens when I put the whole thing in and of course it cut off the engine right away, because of the anti-theft function, which I wasn't really aware of. So I put back the original Instrument Cluster in and engine starts, but power steering stopped working and yellow solid warning light - power steering assist reduced and ESP/ASR (Electronic Stabilization Program/Anti-Slip Regulation) warning lights are on.

How can I correct this, is the entire electronics messed up now, please help!
Thank you for any input.
 

dieselmani

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Thank you Oilhammer. I have the Ross-Tech Software, but I still need to get the HEX(?) cable for it.
I drove today and the warning lights stay on-most importantly the yellow reduced steering assist warning light - saddest thing is, power steering doesn't work, after I make a 90 degrees turn the wheels do not straighten up like they supposed to, and I have to really work the steering wheel in order to bring the vehicle out of the turn.
I went today to a local shop, and they guy asked me, whether I took off the steering wheel to put in the other instrument cluster, which of course did not work with my car keys, which I wasn't aware of, and I said no, because you don't need to remove it in order to have access to take it out or put it in. And then he said, because if I did, that in the steering wheel there is some sort of a calibrating device or some disc, which he said, when moved, causes problems for the electronics, because they get a bad read. But I just lowered and pulled the steering wheel in order to access - that's all.
Can you tell me where I can find Info about reinitilizing the CAN gateway? Would that possibly solve the power steering problem?
Thank you.
 

dieselmani

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Hi, I ordered the HEX V2 cable and it's on its way. Power steering still out of order, yellow light comes on every time I start the engine. I noticed that on the MFD I have info about a shop service in so-and-so-many miles, which must come from the other instrument cluster, and my original messages like for example the 'Service Now!' message is gone. So messages got swapped, too. Do you know Oilhammer where these messages get stored in, because thinking logically it must be somewhere outside of the instrument cluster, and that's probably where the problem with the power steering lies. Thanks.
 
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jetta 97

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Hello, maybe someone can help me out.
I bought an Instrument Cluster on Ebay from an European 2006 Jetta TDI, same production year as my Jetta TDI, because I wanted to replace the MFD, because mine has a faulty display - it displays only 50% left side, right side is dark. I took it apart and sprayed the contacts with an electric cleaner, but it didn't help, so I bought a whole used Instrument Cluster. When the part arrived I realized it's a bit different type of display - it's divided into two parts, with the upper part showing the massages (like refuel, or replenish the windshield fluid etc.), and the lower Part with the MFD display.
So I wasn't able to swap the display, but I wanted to try what happens when I put the whole thing in and of course it cut off the engine right away, because of the anti-theft function, which I wasn't really aware of. So I put back the original Instrument Cluster in and engine starts, but power steering stopped working and yellow solid warning light - power steering assist reduced and ESP/ASR (Electronic Stabilization Program/Anti-Slip Regulation) warning lights are on.

How can I correct this, is the entire electronics messed up now, please help!
Thank you for any input.
What LCD you have 2 connectors or only one?

Every time you install different cluster in your car VIN is different and it will reset your ABS configuration , so you have to re adopt sensors .
For hard steering you can do it with out scan tool , but for rest of them you need to have VCDS .
This is how you reset hard steering called Steering Limit Stop Adaptation

(Engine still running)


  • Center steering wheel (±10°) and hold it centered for 5 seconds.
  • Turn steering wheel completely to the left and hold it there for 10 seconds.
  • Turn steering wheel completely to the right and hold it there for 10 seconds.
  • Center steering wheel (±10°).
  • Switch OFF engine and ignition.
  • Switch ON ignition.
  • Wait 5 seconds.
  • Steering Assist Warning Lamp should turn OFF. If it doesn't, perform a short test drive.
When you get VCDS look here for rest of the sensors :
 

dieselmani

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Thank you very much for your input Jetta97, I'm still waiting for the VCDS cable. I tried the steering limit stop adaptation, but it did not help to restore power steering, and yellow light is still on permanently. As I explained above, the worst thing is to get out of a turn, I have to really work the steering wheel in order to straighten out the wheels, whereas they used to go back effortlessly by itself.

As for ABS, you wrote to look on Ross Tech. I have a 2006 VW Jetta TDI 1.9, so according to the info -- +0004096 = 1.9l TDI PD / 2.0l FSI / 2.0l SDI PD & All with Automatic Transmission -- this would be the value. Do I have to type it in manually in VCDS?
The monochrome (orange) MFD LCD which I wanted to replace originally has two ribbon cables on each side like you find those on a notebook computer. There is no access to it, b/c the speedometer and rpm-meter faces are in the way, so I would have to take off those and their hands first, and then there is this metal housing where the actual LCD sits in, which can be removed by bending its metal snap-hooks from the other side of the PCB board I believe, at least that's what I saw on youtube. Would you happen to know the part number for this LCD or where I can find it?
Thank you.
 
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jetta 97

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Thank you very much for your input Jetta97, I'm still waiting for the VCDS cable. I tried the steering limit stop adaptation, but it did not help to restore power steering, and yellow light is still on permanently. As I explained above, the worst thing is to get out of a turn, I have to really work the steering wheel in order to straighten out the wheels, whereas they used to go back effortlessly by itself.

As for ABS, you wrote to look on Ross Tech. I have a 2006 VW Jetta TDI 1.9, so according to the info -- +0004096 = 1.9l TDI PD / 2.0l FSI / 2.0l SDI PD & All with Automatic Transmission -- this would be the value. Do I have to type it in manually in VCDS?
The monochrome (orange) MFD LCD which I wanted to replace originally has two ribbon cables on each side like you find those on a notebook computer. There is no access to it, b/c the speedometer and rpm-meter faces are in the way, so I would have to take off those and their hands first, and then there is this metal housing where the actual LCD sits in, which can be removed by bending its metal snap-hooks from the other side of the PCB board I believe, at least that's what I saw on youtube. Would you happen to know the part number for this LCD or where I can find it?
Thank you.
You do not need to mess with Coding, you just need to re-adopt Sensors .
2 connector LCD is very had to find, I will try to see can I find one . They are not sold anywhere online , but they not cheap as well.
You may consider updating to Mk6 cluster . I can do that for you . Look video in my Signature Mk5 with Mk6 cluster.
 

dieselmani

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Thank you Jetta 97. I don't think you will be able to help personally, because right now I am in Europe, Germany, and here I don't know anybody who could help me out, except to go to the dealer, and that would be very costly and wouldn't make sense for my 15 year old Jetta.
Ok, so for power steering and everything to go back to normal I have to re-adapt sensors with VCDS?
When I start my VCDS I see the following overview, so I test the port, save it and where do I go next to do that? Thank you.


And here are the pictures of my MFD where the right side is dark, almost gone. I haven't made the attempt to take it apart to clean the ribbon connectors, maybe this would do the trick? The only thing I am scared of is taking the whole thing apart, taking off the gauges, hands etc...
Cheers :)


 
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tactdi

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From the pictures you are almost there, no need to mess with the gauges and hands. The screen frame will come off, and then remove the screen with the little ribbon cables on both sides. Clean the connectors or replace the entire screen (I replaced the screen from a junkyard found screen)
 

jetta 97

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From the pictures you are almost there, no need to mess with the gauges and hands. The screen frame will come off, and then remove the screen with the little ribbon cables on both sides. Clean the connectors or replace the entire screen (I replaced the screen from a junkyard found screen)
Not On this Early stile , This has Metal around it which is clipped at back and Front Board needs to be removed to replace LCD.
 

jetta 97

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Thank you Jetta 97. I don't think you will be able to help personally, because right now I am in Europe, Germany, and here I don't know anybody who could help me out, except to go to the dealer, and that would be very costly and wouldn't make sense for my 15 year old Jetta.
Ok, so for power steering and everything to go back to normal I have to re-adapt sensors with VCDS?
When I start my VCDS I see the following overview, so I test the port, save it and where do I go next to do that? Thank you.
After you do TEST make sure you have CAN and KLine OK. If OK , then SAVE . then go to 03 -ABS and follow link I posted Above

Check you PM for LCD.
 
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dieselmani

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I finally got the cable and below is the report from VCDS...

So first I re-adopt the three ABS sensors - that's where VCDS noticed 3 errors:

01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

and after that I would try again the steering limit stop adaptation?

02546 - Steering Limit Stop
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation


VCDS
Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: Release 21.3.0(x64) Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Dealer/Shop Name:
Workshop Code: 000 00000 000000
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday,21,June,2021,19:13:15:00009
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 License Plate: WA3E
Mileage: 208390km-129487mi Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 36 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 Mileage: 208390km-129487miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday,21,June,2021,19:13:15:00009
Page 2
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 License Plate: WA3E
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AB HW: 028 101 223 8
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG 7550
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3212866
Coding: 0050071
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 63C51A8BA255B193BE-8036
1 Fault Found:
005746 - Coolant Fan Control 1
P1672 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 208395 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 04:47:28
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.31 V
Bin. Bits: 00001100
Temperature: 18.0°C
Duty Cycle: 9.7 %
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AA HW: 1K0 907 379 AA
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00H13001
Coding: 0021122
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 71E960C368A913033C-8024
3 Faults Found:
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday,21,June,2021,19:13:15:00009
Page 3
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 License Plate: WA3E
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 044 BE
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6BD572AB4A85F9D306-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000000252620
Coding: 14018E2340041800000A00000F000000002855035C
Shop #: WSC 08230 444 59173
VCID: 2B55B2AB8A0539D346-807E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 013 0402
Coding: 00063445
Shop #: WSC 08230
No fault code found.
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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E HW: 8E0 035 593 E
Component: SDAR XM H03 0080
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: AUZ4Z7F8042123
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B55B2AB8A0539D346-807E
1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 128
Mileage: 46676 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:01:59
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday,21,June,2021,19:13:15:00009
Page 4
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 License Plate: WA3E
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 P HW: 1K0 909 605 P
Component: 39 AIRBAG VW8R 032 7900
Revision: 03032000 Serial number: 0038FD0443U.
Coding: 0013113
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 397998E370599B43C4-806C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 E
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0005
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME0E2343579
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME0E225C1FN
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME091D18627
Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME087162798
Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME08255E4DB
Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME087E40183
1 Fault Found:
00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - MIL ON
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AJ HW: 1K0 953 549 AJ
Component: J0527 034 0070
Coding: 0002021
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 7AFB47EF35DF505B8D-802E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 007 0050
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 972 L
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 4312
Coding: 0023203
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 356194D35C417F2320-8060
No fault code found.
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday,21,June,2021,19:13:15:00009
Page 5
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 License Plate: WA3E
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H10 0120
Revision: H10 Serial number: 2800105B258D48
Coding: 3D7F0B600F1002
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 2A5BB7AF85FF20DBBD-807E
No fault code found.
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Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
Part No SW: 1K5 919 965 A HW: 1K5 919 965 A
Component: Kompass 005 0003
Revision: 00005000 Serial number: 1293324T1RZQ01
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 397998E370599B43C4-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 972 L
Component: IMMO 3HL 4312
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 356194D35C417F2320-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 B HW: 3C0 959 760 B
Component: Sitzverstellung 0701
Revision: 00003000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C57B1B78F0B3EEB4F-8078
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 366393DF4147743B29-8062
No fault code found.
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday,21,June,2021,19:13:15:00009
Page 6
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 License Plate: WA3E
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D04 1606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 326BAFCFAD2F681B05-8066
2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 8360 km
Temperature: 22.0°C
Voltage: 12.20 V
Voltage: 12.00 V
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AT HW: 1K0 959 433 AT
Component: 01 KSG PQ35 G2 010 0101
Revision: 00010000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 13900E880106281B0904058FB0080F0480A540
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 020B3F0F5D0F189BD5-8056
Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted
Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted
Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
Component: Tuer-SG 024 2377
Coding: 0001269
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 377D9EDB464D8D3332-8062
No fault code found.
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VCDS
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday,21,June,2021,19:13:15:00009
Page 7
VIN: 3VWDT71K16M762483 License Plate: WA3E
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 C HW: 1K0 035 180 C
Component: Radio DE2 011 0015
Revision: 00011000 Serial number: VWZ4Z7E2101914
Coding: 0010400
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 204F5587F3C3EA8BE3-8074
2 Faults Found:
00881 - Connection to Speaker Rear Right
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 3169A0C3A82953037C-8064
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
Component: Tuer-SG 021 2434
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 326BAFCFAD2F681B05-8066
No fault code found.
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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D51BCB3B41137E358-8078
1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35)
014 - Defective
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