Infineums 2014 Worldwide Winter Diesel Fuel Survery
- Thread starter Lightflyer1
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Very interesting and lots of information, thanks for posting this Lightflyer1.
US is on pages 136-147, and it's interesting the difference in the observed cetane numbers
East Coast - max 48 - mean 44 - min 39
Mid West - max 54 - mean 45 - min 40
West Coast - max 54 - mean 50 - min 41
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US is on pages 136-147, and it's interesting the difference in the observed cetane numbers
East Coast - max 48 - mean 44 - min 39
Mid West - max 54 - mean 45 - min 40
West Coast - max 54 - mean 50 - min 41
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40X40
Experienced
Thank you!
Bill
Bill
VeeDubTDI
Wanderluster, Traveler, TDIClub Enthusiast
Sticky thread for a while. Thanks for the info. 
andyrooski17
Veteran Member
Very interesting. The spread in the HFRR measurements is a little surprising to me. Some scary high numbers and some shockingly low ones.
tikal
Veteran Member
The HFRR averages are surprisingly good. I wonder how a histogram of the actual values would come out.
So we do not need no 'stinking' fuel additives after all
So we do not need no 'stinking' fuel additives after all
romad
Top Post Dawg
West Coast is probably due to CARB Diesel formulations.
Lightflyer1
Top Post Dawg
Which Texas also copies.
Lightflyer1
Top Post Dawg
That is why I use stations with a bio component (at the pump) almost exclusively (0 to 20%). All the ones with 5 to 11% bio were under 200 HFRR scores. Not cold enough here for a winter additive and I have never found any water in the fuel since I started in 2005.
Bob_Fout
Oil Wanker
Sample IDs. Dies for diesel, 14 is the year, then a (normally) incrementing unique number.
tikal
Veteran Member
How is your CR Passat liking a diet of Murphy USA fuel with a minimum of 5% BD?
romad
Top Post Dawg
Would be a better report if they identified the brands and locations from where the samples were taken.
Lightflyer1
Top Post Dawg
Just fine. No issues thus far. Although Chevron and the HEB grocery have had way better fuel prices lately. They also have a bio component. $2.02 at HEB the other day.
tikal
Veteran Member
Good to hear that Lightflyer1. I tend to use Kroger fuel. No signs of BD so I had a few ounces of diesel additive just in case.
czeetah
Veteran Member
Looking at pour point and clouding ... Glad I skipped the "winter additive" and just said screw it fuel is already winterized, use a regular summer additive with max cetane and lubricity no need to pay for more anti gel.
Though I did add some white bottle when we had that November cold snap.
Though I did add some white bottle when we had that November cold snap.
GreenLantern_TDI
Veteran Member
Its funny. Some third world countries have higher fuel standards than the US. I guess those countries are more interested in whats best for the community and the US is more worried about diluting the fuel as much as possible to yeild the highest profit margin for the producers.
mr_y82
Veteran Member
^you got it! plus we gotta have it cheaper than (edit: almost?) everyone else!
Lightflyer1
Top Post Dawg
Infineum 2018 Winter Diesel Fuel Survey
https://www.infineuminsight.com/media/2228/infineum-wdfqs-2018-v10-14112018.pdf
From the graphs for the US it seems Cetane levels are on the rise and lubricity levels (HFFR scores lower) seems to be on the rise. CFPP seems the same or somewhat improved.
https://www.infineuminsight.com/media/2228/infineum-wdfqs-2018-v10-14112018.pdf
From the graphs for the US it seems Cetane levels are on the rise and lubricity levels (HFFR scores lower) seems to be on the rise. CFPP seems the same or somewhat improved.
romad
Top Post Dawg
I really wish we could get a breakdown by state so I can see how bad the Cetane & Lubricity is in AZ diesel vs CARB Diesel. I need to know so I can adjust my additive usage.
Lightflyer1
Top Post Dawg
Even then you still wouldn't know which few stations they tested. It is just a very, very general survey. Probably less than a thousandth of one percent of available stations tested. But I do wish they would provide the names and locations of the stations they test, and if they test the same ones every year. It does seem to show at least some progress is being made over time.
romad
Top Post Dawg
Still, all California station have CARB Diesel so I could see the actual ratings for it.
WindyKitty7
New member
Looks like link has gone bad.
Can someone post the PDF to this forum?
wayback machine's got you covered: https://web.archive.org/web/2015013...eum.com/media/80722/wdfs-2014-full-screen.pdf
here's a fresher one: https://www.infineuminsight.com/media/2228/infineum-wdfqs-2018-v10-14112018.pdf
WindyKitty7
New member
Got it! Thank you so much