If you are considering buyback which cars are you looking at as replacements?

ATR

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Was that the plug-in hybrid? I read that the three different offerings have different driving characteristics with the PHEV having the best feeling except for the brakes.
Nope... just a standard gasoline engine.
 

GyroRon

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Ive read most of this thread, what I find amazing is how many people here are considering vehicles that are NOTHING like the TDI they are going to replace.

I have a 2013 Jetta TDI. And yes it has a nice torquey engine, but beyond that, I find is absolutely NOT sporty in any other way. It isn't really any faster than most 4 cylinder gas cars, it doesn't really handle in any impressively better way, and looks wise it is just another 4 door sedan.

Honestly, I bought the car strictly for the diesel engine, and strictly to get the 40-50 mpg it offers.

Had I had the choice of a diesel Accord or Camry or Corolla or Civic, or a mazda diesel, Nissan diesel etc.... I don't know if I would have picked a VW. The chevy cruze diesel came out after I had gotten my jetta or else I might have bought one of those. My point being I only bought a VW, because it was the only thing offering this kind of fuel economy other than a prius. And I strongly considered a prius, but I do use the car to tow ALOT, towing either one or two motorcycles or a jet ski, And I felt that the prius with its relatively low power, low torque engine ( once the battery is used up on the interstate ) would struggle compared to the 200+ pound torque from the TDI diesel engine.

I have always felt VW made decent cars, but not on the same level of reliability and durability as the Japanese vehicles. Seems its always little things going wrong with VWs, and reading this forum backs it up.... issues with the A/C or sunroof, or window motors, etc... etc.... I still don't have the trust in a VW product that I would have with a toyota or Honda product.

But the big factor is this.... I am going to turn in a car that is economical to drive, tows well and has good range between fill ups. What do I replace it with that will do the same or be as close to the same. I mean sure, fuel prices have dropped, and a car that gets 30 mpg verses 40+ mpg wouldn't be such a big deal. But I still want at least 30 mpg. Some of the cars you guys and gals are talking about are in the teens or low 20's. Basically nothing like the TDI at all. I see the GTI mentioned over and over, other than it being a VW product how is it anything like a TDI ?

Me personally, I have spent hours upon hours trying to decide what I would replace my car with. I own my TDI outright, and only paid 18 grand for it when I got it ( bought it 6 months old with only around 8000 miles on it ) according to the buy back calculations I should be getting just shy of 22 grand. SO I could spend 21 to 22 grand and be into something else and still have no loan and not take any money out of savings. OR.... I could look at something cheaper and put money in the bank. And I am 99 percent sure thats what I am going to do.

I feel the best value for me would be a 2012-2015 Camry or Accord or Altima. I am finding Tons of 2012 and newer camrys and altimas listed for sale on craigslist and autotrader, with 20-30 thousand miles in the 12,000$ to 15,000$ price range. These are comfortable, roomy, decent looking cars that get on average 30+ mpg and are powerful enough to serve my towing needs. Plus they are super reliable and hold a strong resale value. I can pick up one even as new as a 2015 model and still have 4-5 grand left over to put in the bank. I would like a accord probably more than the others, but they are a little more expensive. I have read that there is a problem with alot of altimas with their transmissions so I am not sure I want to go that direction. Ill probably just end up with a Camry.

If money was no object I would be replacing my TDI with a 2015 or 2016 Honda accord hybrid. Better MPG than the TDI and in a nice roomy attractive car. They are just more money than I would have after my buy back and I don't want to spend more than Im getting, I want to spend less and put some cash in the bank.
 

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Ive read most of this thread, what I find amazing is how many people here are considering vehicles that are NOTHING like the TDI they are going to replace.
This is true. But I always felt like TDI's were more of a car guys car than your average econobox. Thats why I think you see people considering more sporty and expensive cars in this thread. And well, lets face it, if you have a CR TDI you probably were not saving any money anyway with all the costs associated with DPF's and HPFP's and added complexity that VW brings to the table.
 

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This is true. But I always felt like TDI's were more of a car guys car than your average econobox. Thats why I think you see people considering more sporty and expensive cars in this thread. And well, lets face it, if you have a CR TDI you probably were not saving any money anyway with all the costs associated with DPF's and HPFP's and added complexity that VW brings to the table.
Actually I'm considering buying 2 cars right now- 1- 2013 Corolla S Limited edition for my commute and a 2004 Golf TDI to maintain my interest ins driving. Tune it and dress it out properly. Be nice to have a backup car for the family as well.
 

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Ive read most of this thread, what I find amazing is how many people here are considering vehicles that are NOTHING like the TDI they are going to replace.(...)
In many respects, the TDI is a unique set of vehicles whose combination of price, performance and fuel economy are hard to replicate. In any event, at least speaking for myself, the buyback option gives me an opportunity to consider cars that fit my driving needs better than the TDI does now. For many people, fuel economy will remain paramount. For others, performance will be the biggest factor (I'm in this camp). It won't be surprising that different TDI owners will gravitate to cars quite unlike the TDI.
 

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This is true. But I always felt like TDI's were more of a car guys car than your average econobox. Thats why I think you see people considering more sporty and expensive cars in this thread. And well, lets face it, if you have a CR TDI you probably were not saving any money anyway with all the costs associated with DPF's and HPFP's and added complexity that VW brings to the table.
There's no other "economy" car out there with the luxury feeling you get out of a golf. My golf feels like a mini audi.

There's always a cp3 hpfp and timing belt cover that will eliminate most of the major problems that will stop the car dead in it's tracks. That's my plan if I keep my car.
 

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I've got a random vehicle question...does anyone here have experience with the various cargo/passenger vans? Ex. Sprinter, Transit, ProMaster, etc. Is one or the other more roomy and comfortable for the driver and passengers?

I want(ed) a truck (pickup), but the payload capacity of some of these vans is twice that of the average 1/2 ton truck. The payload capacity interests me more than towing capacity, because odds are...that is what I'll be taking advantage of more often.

I want something that I can haul 3-5 people with, will easily handle 2,000+ lbs payload, is relatively comfortable to drive, etc. I would appreciate any input that you can offer.
 

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I've got a random vehicle question...does anyone here have experience with the various cargo/passenger vans? Ex. Sprinter, Transit, ProMaster, etc. Is one or the other more roomy and comfortable for the driver and passengers?

I want(ed) a truck (pickup), but the payload capacity of some of these vans is twice that of the average 1/2 ton truck. The payload capacity interests me more than towing capacity, because odds are...that is what I'll be taking advantage of more often.

I want something that I can haul 3-5 people with, will easily handle 2,000+ lbs payload, is relatively comfortable to drive, etc. I would appreciate any input that you can offer.
I'm trying to talk my wife into looking at the Chrysler PHEV Pacifica but she's not having it so far.
 

2015vwgolfdiesel

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#1 My mother's 2004 Honda Accord with 66,000 miles. If she wants to sell.:D

#2 2016 - 2017 VW Golf TSI

#3 2016 - 2017 Toyota Camry

#4 2016 - 2017 Honda Accord.

#5 2016 - 2017 Honda Civic.

Lots of choices -- hate buying cars -- but plan to get my dollars worth:rolleyes:
 

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2016/17 Subi Crosstrek most likely. Manual is a must, and I could seriously use the ground clearance and the AWD system is a nice touch. Lack of power can be fixed with a few bolt-on mods.
 

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#1 My mother's 2004 Honda Accord with 66,000 miles. If she wants to sell.:D
#2 2016 - 2017 VW Golf TSI
#3 2016 - 2017 Toyota Camry
#4 2016 - 2017 Honda Accord.
#5 2016 - 2017 Honda Civic.
Lots of choices -- hate buying cars -- but plan to get my dollars worth:rolleyes:
There's some good options in there for sure! I owned a 06 accord (same basic design as your mom's) for close to 5 years). One thing to be aware of is that that model is part of the takata snafu. Good news is that Honda is fixing the airbag with one that won't turn into a claymore in the event of a accident. So be sure to have that done asap if it hasn't already been done yet.

I will say that my 06 was otherwise a fantastic car that never gave me any problems. Reason I went for the tdi golf is the extra headroom and legroom. The 10-14mpg extra I got over the accord was icing on the cake.
 

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Has anybody heard anything at all about possible incentives from VW on new cars for us TDI owners? People talk like they expect something, but I don't recall seeing or hearing anything from VW. In fact, I do recall someone speculating that it might not be possible because that could potentially turn this into a "Marketing" opportunity for them, which the Feds would frown on.
 

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Has anybody heard anything at all about possible incentives from VW on new cars for us TDI owners? People talk like they expect something, but I don't recall seeing or hearing anything from VW. In fact, I do recall someone speculating that it might not be possible because that could potentially turn this into a "Marketing" opportunity for them, which the Feds would frown on.
Dealers are supposed to find out on the 18th if there is any plan. As far as the "Marketing" opportunities, I think special incentives to us would help their franchised dealers which support a lot of families. I ah hoping to see incentives on the 17's like there are on the 16's. Golf Sportwagen LE's, that sticker for just over 26K are being advertised under 20K. If I can get a AllTrack S stick that will also price out in that range for under 20K..Now there is a discussion to stay with VW.
 

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DanB36

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You may also be asked to provide financial or other PII that we need in order to evaluate, process and pay your proof of claim."
Since one of the payment options is EFT, how do you expect them to do that without financial information (specifically, your bank's routing number and your account number)? Of course, you can take a paper check instead, in which case you presumably wouldn't need to provide that.
 

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I drive a rental car every week and Toyota's and Nissan's are the worst cars in the class. No way.

I'm considering:

VW GTI
VW GLI
VW TSI
Chevy Malibu
Kia Optima
Honda Accord
Ford Focus????

I'm hoping VW makes killer offers as GTI's are being advertised locally in Denver discounted by 5K.
 

NewEnglander

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I have a 2011 Audi A3 with about 93,000 miles and spent the last few weeks deliberating over what the best replacement would be. I narrowed it down to the Mazda 3 and Golf 1.8L TSI SE. At first, I was not sure whether I could live with the smaller "i' touring model in the Mazda 3 or would need the "s". After driving the "i", it was just too much of a drop in torque from my TDI for me to accept. That ultimately pit the Golf SE against the Mazda 3 S Grand Touring. This is how I ultimately broke it down:

Mazda 3 "S" Grand Touring

Pros:

  • Impressive exterior visuals
  • Very upscale interior, most comfortable seats
  • Power seats and Dual Climate Controls
  • Better predicted reliability
  • Slightly better fuel economy advantage (est., 1-2mpg)
  • Navigation control joystick (easier in winter)
  • Lane change warning (I have another daughter learning to drive soon!)
Cons:

  • Noisier ride
  • Tapered windows in the back (less light/visibility)
  • Tapered hatchback (cramped for the doggie!)
  • Driver's side pop-up HUD (cluttered dash overall, but this thing really annoys me)
  • Minimal interior storage
  • Proprietary, less compatible Infotainment system.
  • Carpeted "third pedal" area rather than hard plastic.

Golf TSI SE
(with lighting package)

Pros:

  • Quieter ride
  • Android Auto / Apple CarPlay (worked great!)
  • Hidden rear camera
  • Rear Climate Vents
  • Smoothest powertrain (tiptronic shifting noticeably quicker)
  • Lots of interior storage, cooled glovebox
  • Better visibility
  • Great VW service specialist nearby
  • Fender audio superior to the Bose on the Mazda
Cons:

  • Mostly manual seat adjustment
  • Lame climate control system
  • Questionable predicted reliability
Obviously not perfect or telling the whole story since each one is weighted differently, but in the end of the day, I felt that the Golf provided better value and performance in the areas that mattered most to me.


The primary advantage of the Mazda 3 would be visuals, some upscale interior features, and the predicted reliability. While the Golf is a bit conservative, it is still a nice looking car and nothing to be ashamed of. The interior of the Golf, while not as luxurious feeling as the Mazda and lacking the power seats and climate control, is still quite comfortable and gets the job done well enough. The Golf's entertainment system was a big deal to me. The sound was great on the highway, much better than what I could get from the Mazda. The support for Android Auto right out of the box was also, very attractive. All my playlists were right there and started up seamlessly. Having kids and a large breed dog, the Golf's rear vents, hatch space, and better visibility were a clear winner in that department. All told, it was just the better fit for what's most important to me and about $2,000 cheaper than the competing "S" Grand Touring model.


TLDR; Getting a Golf TSI 1.8L SE model (white/beige) with the lighting package. It seems like the most comparable car to my 2011 Audi A3 TDI and will only cost me about $2,000 after the buyback.
 
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@newenglander, in my sincerest tone - how do you go from an audi to a mazda? why so much mazda love on this forum? do I have it all wrong?
 

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Well, I didn't! ;)

I don't have any love for Mazdas as I've never owned one. I was just looking at compact hatchbacks that came closest to a decent performance and fuel economy trade off. What about Mazdas do you dislike enough that they aren't comparable to VWs?
 

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Nope... just a standard gasoline engine.
The Hyundai Sonata PHEV was actually very nice. The Volt was pretty snappy too but it's tiny. While my wife and I were talking she kept bringing up the room in a loaner Passat and I told her we need to quit looking at sub-compacts if the roominess of the Passat was a must-have. That's when I took her to see the Sonata. But I read there's a more younger oriented Kia Optima PHEV that is the same but aimed at a more younger demographic in style so we're going to check that out.
 

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Has anybody heard anything at all about possible incentives from VW on new cars for us TDI owners? People talk like they expect something, but I don't recall seeing or hearing anything from VW. In fact, I do recall someone speculating that it might not be possible because that could potentially turn this into a "Marketing" opportunity for them, which the Feds would frown on.
I don't see how the feds could care less if VW tries to retain customers. I'm not one of the VW apologist camp but I think it's their right to offer discounts to keep us in the brand. If they went on some advertising campaign maybe it would be different but I think if their are incentives specifically rolled out for tdi owners which don't apply to the general public it would seem more like a goodwill kind of thing to me.
 

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NewEnglander, thanks for the TSI GSW vs. Mazda3 comparo. Been there (still there).....


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Originally Posted by bobgolf2004 View Post
If I sell my TDI to VW, I will first look at whether I can buy it back after it is fixed.
At that point why not just keep the car and go for a fix?
If the GEN 3 phase 1 fix is available in October:
[*the dealers will be handling the buyback for VW
[*]The dealer will perform the fix
[*]the dealer can buy from VW for resale
[*]The dealer can sell the car
[*]dealer has low expense if it can turn around and sell the car right away.
I sell my car to VW for $28,000 (trade-in value plus restitution amount)
How much will the dealer be able to sell the car for? $17,000-18000 before sales tax....I'll buy it back. I just pocketed an extra 2-3 grand.I get the car, trade-in value plus restitution amount, and the difference between trade-in value and what I have to pay to buy it.I have the same car, $9,200-$10,2000 cash in my pocket, my car is fixed.
If I go the direct fix route, my cash is only 2/3 of the restitution amount, $4,800, with remaining third payable a year later or so.
 

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Just finished my 5th VW lease. The last 2 were Jetta Sportwagen TDI diesels (TERRIFIC cars) We've made the jump and just brought home......

2017 Subaru Outback 2.5i Premium PZEV. all weather mats, eyesight, rear power gate, hitch. HDD-14 trim level $31,743
 

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I've got a random vehicle question...does anyone here have experience with the various cargo/passenger vans? Ex. Sprinter, Transit, ProMaster, etc. Is one or the other more roomy and comfortable for the driver and passengers?

I want(ed) a truck (pickup), but the payload capacity of some of these vans is twice that of the average 1/2 ton truck. The payload capacity interests me more than towing capacity, because odds are...that is what I'll be taking advantage of more often.

I want something that I can haul 3-5 people with, will easily handle 2,000+ lbs payload, is relatively comfortable to drive, etc. I would appreciate any input that you can offer.
I have a 15 transit sitting in my driveway lol. Pros is drives well on the highway compared to the old Econoline, can be had in many different combinations from size to motors and so on.

Now with all that being said they have a odd sitting position esp for tall people like myself they are not comfortable in the least bit lol. Also the 3.5 Na is a gutless turd if you do get one opt for anything but that lol.
 

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I have a 15 transit sitting in my driveway lol. Pros is drives well on the highway compared to the old Econoline, can be had in many different combinations from size to motors and so on.

Now with all that being said they have a odd sitting position esp for tall people like myself they are not comfortable in the least bit lol. Also the 3.5 Na is a gutless turd if you do get one opt for anything but that lol.
Have you driven anything that has a similar issue that you might be able to compare it to? I'm fairly tall, so that might be an issue for me. They're targeted towards the commercial vehicle audience. I imagine the drivers seat being more like the seat in a straight truck or combination vehicle than a passenger vehicle.

If I go this route, I'd get the base engine. I doubt that I'd be willing to shell out the ~$5k for the baby PowerStroke.
 
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