If you are considering buyback which cars are you looking at as replacements?

geodug

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It looks like there will be more diesels available soon in the US. BMW diesels were paused but now starting production again. Some new cars expected will be the Mazda CX-5, General Motors Cruze, Equinox and Terrain, Ford F-150 and a few more.

I think carmakers have not given up diesels for electrics and/or hybrids. Should be interesting to do a test drive or two.


http://www.greencarreports.com/news...sels-certified-by-epa-production-now-starting
 

k1xv

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So long as there are CAFE standards, no reasonable car marketer will rule out any form of propulsion that will help them meet the standard. EV vehicles are simply unsuitable for many applications.
 

SOCALGAL

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I had a friend in college (long time ago) that drilled holes in his floor board and put plugs with pull cords in the holes. He used his Jeep for hunting and was always fording streams. When he hit dry ground, he could just pull the cord and drain the inside. He also had a small gas winch on the front bumper for when the stream was deeper than it looked.:eek:
Ha! They are built with drain plugs now and I can hose it out if needed which makes me laugh. I don't plan on getting her that dirty though. After spending this much money I'm sticking to some light off roading, open trails so I don't get the paint all bush wacked. So she won't be a mall Jeep but just a little bit of a sissy trail Jeep, she'll get her feet wet. LOL
 

buddy933

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my wife still wanted good fuel mileage so when she heard of life time warrantee on the battery on the Hyundai sonata hybrid she looked into it, so last November she bought one with all the bells and whistles, she has a heavy foot but still is getting 42 to 45mpg, I can get over 50 without really trying. so we get about 3 more mpg with fuel costing 20 to 60 cents less a gallon and no timing belt to replace, was planning on keeping tdi for me but since found out $5100 isn't paid till car is
compliant.
 

TDINJ

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True on the warranty information. Ultimately beyond 100k miles, its costs will be on me, and more expensive. For that reason I've begon to research BMW gurus and indy shops in my area. But man, is it a nice driving car. I'm in love with it. Not to say I didn't love my Passat TDI, but I love the 328d more. I also bought the CPO maintenance plan for $2K+ above what I bought the car for. It includes oil changes, and even brakes and similar items. I took the plunge. Now I'm going to drive the wheels off of it.

On a CPO, you get the balance of the free maintenance plan up to 4/50,000, and the initial 4/50000 warranty. Then you get the CPO warranty that adds two years and brings you up to 100,000 miles (with deductibles). I think you actually get a better warranty buying CPO than buying new.

Dealer service is ridiculously priced, and the extended maintenance plans and warranties beyond the CPO are also overpriced. I think most people who buy these cars intend to go to independent BMW specialists for whatever maintenance they cannot or will not do themselves. And on line parts, even OE parts, can be found cheaper on the internet, often from parts departments of BMW dealers, but often vendors such as some of the vendors on this site, and Rock Auto.
 
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Makr

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I just moved from 2010 JSW TDI to a 2016 BMW X5.

After months of looking, I narrowed it down to VW Alltrack, BMW X1, and Jeep Grand Cherokee.

After driving a the JSW for 6 years, I decided I didn't want essentially the same car, so scratched off the Alltrack. Removed the Jeep after reading so many reviews about reliability issues/recalls. They did drive nice though.

Landed on the BMW X1, went to purchase with the wife and she convinced me to get the X5. They had a 2016 X1 and X5 both with around 13k miles.

The BMW CPO program is really awesome. Bump to bumper until 75k.....and maintenance warranty until 50k. That includes brakes, oil changes, filers, etc.
 

jmanner

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It's done! Just placed an order for a Honda Accord Hybrid Touring. It should be equal or better than our departed Passat TDI in fuel economy and comfort. I researched hybrids to death, and this car has a very technically advanced drive. A serial/parallel system with essentially no transmission. Even the A/C compressor is driven by an internal AC motor. No seals or clutches! To top it off, the Atkinson-cycle gasoline engine is port-injected, i.e. no intake valve deposits to worry about.
 

k1xv

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After 4/50K miles, you pay for your own maintenance. Many opt to go to Indy Mechanics after their BMW plan ends.
 

Makr

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Just curious, but what does all that prepaid maintenance and repair program cost?
Mine came with the car. I think there are other options that go beyond what comes with the car, but I didn't opt for that.

The maintenance warranty comes with the car and is no cost.

The bumper to bumper warranty that goes to 75k is no cost to 50k.....then there is a $50 deductible for anything between 50-75k.
 

aja8888

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Mine came with the car. I think there are other options that go beyond what comes with the car, but I didn't opt for that.
The maintenance warranty comes with the car and is no cost.
The bumper to bumper warranty that goes to 75k is no cost to 50k.....then there is a $50 deductible for anything between 50-75k.
Sounds like you made a good deal. :)
 

DubFamily

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I've basically narrowed it down to between a 2014 BMW 328D xDrive or a new, loaded 2017 GTI Autobahn. I want AWD and I need fuel economy (~120 mile round trip daily) but the new GTI is just plain gorgeous and so incredibly fun to drive I could live with it...

The trouble is; I literally cannot get any of the VW dealers in the DC area to answer me and discuss an actual purchase... So pretty sure I'm going with the BMW.
 

atomicfront

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I've basically narrowed it down to between a 2014 BMW 328D xDrive or a new, loaded 2017 GTI Autobahn. I want AWD and I need fuel economy (~120 mile round trip daily) but the new GTI is just plain gorgeous and so incredibly fun to drive I could live with it...
The trouble is; I literally cannot get any of the VW dealers in the DC area to answer me and discuss an actual purchase... So pretty sure I'm going with the BMW.

Contact Heritage in Parkville, MD
 

ohenry

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The Passat TDI is gone. My buyback took place yesterday afternoon at 4:30, quick and painless. I proceeded to test drive a new 2017 Passat R-Line, and a new 2017 Passat SE with Technology. I took home the R-Line, $20,151 plus TT&L. A lot of car for the money, and cost less than what I just received for my 2013 Passat TDI SE with 70k miles. How can anyone complain about that?
 

blondeshady2001

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There's a few options I lay at night thinking about. First few are pretty standard replacements. Keeping in mind that my commute went from 80 miles a day to less than 10 about few years ago, the switch back to gassers was probably going to happen anyway. Miles per gallon now are not as important as smiles per gallon. Without further delay, I'm thinking about (all new):

1. SE GTI
2. WRX Limited
3. Golf R
and the wildcard...
4. '17 Dodge Charger Scat Pack
 

aliasbane

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Passat 2013
I am convincing myself to buy a used Subaru Legacy 3.6L V6 limited more each day... but I wish cars just were all good... Everything has super issues. I have no trust in a car company besides ones I can't afford lol
 

Stimulacra

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Replaced my 2012 Passat TDI with a 2010 Audi A4 Avant Quattro.

It's a great little wagon but I am definitely feeling the fuel economy hit…*Going from over 40 MPG to 23 MPG (on premium). Fuel cost per mile is jumping from $0.05 to $0.12.

The TDI era was good while it lasted… fuel economy and performance.*I might keep my eye open for a pre-scandal model.

I'll miss the great community and very helpful individuals in this forum.
 

CommonRail

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I picked up a used Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T with around 16k miles on it at a great price to replace my '14 Jetta SportWagen. I specifically wanted the car, because it serves as a "family car" while still doing 0 to 60 in 6.4 seconds. I figured if I'm going to drive another crossover, it might as well have some balls. I had to adjust to the plasticky interior and cloth seats again. I do miss the SportWagen and looking forward to the day when I pick up another used TDI as my personal commuter car. I have my eyes on the Golf, as I won't need another "family car."
 

k1xv

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If you are looking for a second or third car for local errands, there are some real deals on CPO EV cars coming off lease. Around here, you can pick up a 2014 or 2015 Nissan Leaf with under 25K miles, that had a MSRP of over $30k, for under $10k.

These cars depreciate very quickly in the first years. This is because while the first buyer gets a big tax credit and other incentives, second owners do not get such goodies. And because of technological obsolescence, the new adopters who leased these cars in the first place are moving on to a newer, more advanced model.

Because I am retired and live in a state with no EV incentives, the tax credit (which cannot be carried forward) is not of much value to me. So a used one makes more sense.

That is, if I were to buy one at all.
 

atoughram

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Just made and offer on a 14 Acura TL SH-AWD and it was accepted.... I guess that answers that! Not sure how a 305hp 3.7l V6 pollutes less than a 2.0 liter TDI.... It'll at least be fun to drive....
 

CruisingWagon

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I haven't even made a decision as to whether I'm keeping or selling back yet let alone what I'll buy if I do sell back.

That said....cars that have my eye are:

- A new Jeep Compass?
- Another Golf Sportwagen...but not the Alltrack...maybe the 4motion?
- A diesel Chevy Colorado or GMC Canyon?
- A Golf R or GTI or Focus ST?
- Or a **GULP** anonymous crossover!?

And no premium cars for me...We own a small business and when the other half drove up in A Ford Explorer Platinum the "poop" hit the fan with our employees. And mind you, we make less than some of the top paid employees. Obviously, no Audis or BMW wagons as I'm sure that would be worse.
 

aja8888

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I haven't even made a decision as to whether I'm keeping or selling back yet let alone what I'll buy if I do sell back.

That said....cars that have my eye are:

- A new Jeep Compass?
- Another Golf Sportwagen...but not the Alltrack...maybe the 4motion?
- A diesel Chevy Colorado or GMC Canyon?
- A Golf R or GTI or Focus ST?
- Or a **GULP** anonymous crossover!?

And no premium cars for me...We own a small business and when the other half drove up in A Ford Explorer Platinum the "poop" hit the fan with our employees. And mind you, we make less than some of the top paid employees. Obviously, no Audis or BMW wagons as I'm sure that would be worse.
Wait until you see what those Canyon and Colorado trucks list for. Ouch!:eek:
 

CruisingWagon

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Wait until you see what those Canyon and Colorado trucks list for. Ouch!:eek:
RIGHT!

I've been researching them at local dealers and building them online and...WOWSER!

But isn't it funny? I could pull into work in a 40K GMC Canyon and no one would blink an eye but if I pull into work with a recently off lease 40K Audi I'll get "hate".

We were discussing this over Christmas Dinner with my family and the perception of brand names.
 

atomicfront

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RIGHT!
I've been researching them at local dealers and building them online and...WOWSER!
But isn't it funny? I could pull into work in a 40K GMC Canyon and no one would blink an eye but if I pull into work with a recently off lease 40K Audi I'll get "hate".
We were discussing this over Christmas Dinner with my family and the perception of brand names.
Yeah you can get a new BMW X3 loaded for less than a Toyota 4 Runner Limited.
 
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