Hyundai showing TDI owners a little love

[tango_28]

Pulled the trigger on the 2016 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid Limited with the Ultimate package, out the door $27155. out the door including licence plates.

 

[tonestar]

Got a 2016 Sonata Hybrid for $22300 OTD (9% tax in NY) $19,500 selling price $27,000 MSRP (not the limited)

 

[AmandaSch]

I just got their mailer today. Not that I'm going to do anything with it except probably throw it away.

 

[butterme]

I was tempted by the Sonata but when i went and sat in the car the driver's seat did not go back far enough for me.
We are planning on buying a Honda Accord. We considered the Hybrid but it would take 7 years to get the price difference vs the Honda Accord Sport SE quote we got from the Honda dealer in Palo Alto (Anderson Honda).

 

[speedrye]

I find it interesting that Hyundai knows that I have a VW and mails me stuff, but VW doesn't and never mailed me any settlement information packets on either qualifying TDI.

 

[Abacus]

Well this is odd, I received the same offer and I have never owned a VW newer than 1997. I would never trade one of my B4's for a new car though since I have yet to find one I like. The new cars just have no soul.

To those crapping on Hyundai/Kia, we have owned two and would buy another in a minute. The first was a 2004 Kia Sorento and it was well built with a solid axle and frame, but as usual the road salt ate the frame out in 10 years (220,000 miles, relatively trouble free), necessitating a replacement. We looked all over and decided on a 2014 Kia Sorento. The salesmen in the dealership looked at me funny when I was crawling all over the underside and in the hood with a light, right there in the showroom, to see if it was a piece of junk or well built. It's well built. In the last 85,000 miles (we drive a lot, hence the TDI's), the CD player needed replacing (bad from the factory), a rear wheel bearing and rear axle gear made noise and were replaced under warranty at 80K, and I had to replace the brakes and rear rotors due to wearing over time. The wife also hit a racoon with it and destroyed the bell pan, so I bought a new one (at a discounted Kia dealer site) and replaced it myself.

The wife bought the bumper-to-bumper extended warranty to 6 years/150,000 miles and it is unique than others I've researched since it lists what is not covered, not what is, an important distinction.

It is very comfortable and despite being a V6 AWD gets 25/26 mpg regularly around town. The 4WD system is amazing in the snow and you can't tell when it's engaging and when it's not. Overall we have been very happy with it. It was also one of the very few SUV's under $30K that wasn't some underpowered crapbox.

 

[mak618]

Kind of odd. Either they had one heck of a price on it to begin with or...?

The VW deal works like this...You start at MSRP. Calculate what 3% of that is. Then find out dealer invoice is. To that, you have to add destination charges and advertising cost (don't know what that is, but they do, and I think destination is around $800ish). Then subtract the 3% figure you came out with above. Then subtract the V-plan cash amount ($1250). After that, you can subtract the cash off deal they are doing this month ($2000 off of 2017 cars or $4000 off of 2016 cars). You can then subtract the competitor's car discount, which is $1000 this month.

When looking at Hyundai's, I found dealer's advertising prices all over the place. In some cases, they included destination, some not (though you know you would end up paying it in the end). Some included the Hyundai cash discounts. Some advertised military discounts in their pricing (which you would only qualify for if you were active military), etc. In my case, when the business mgr at the dealership figured the pricing with the VW package, it came in around $1500 lower than the lowest price he could do otherwise, including their various dealer discount pricing options. It might actually be better than that, if his "best" price without the VW deal, included the destination charge or it was added to it after...not sure as I didn't ask him.

Thanks for this example. This is very helpful. Do you know if the same calculations apply for both 2016 and 2017s? And based on how I read it, the discounts (Hyundai corporate [3% + 1250 + $1000] + Hyundai Dealer's discounts) are applied to the invoice, is that correct? Or should they be applied to the MSRP?

 

[jimbo1mcm]

Got a Hyundai Genesis and a Hyundai Sonata, each loaded, to replace both my TDI's. Hyundai is making great cars now.

 

[mak618]

Did the dealer work out and give you the Hyundai VW offer directly?

I am trying to get pricing on a car but its like pulling teeth.

The dealer isnt agreeing to give the VW Hyundai discount of (3% + 1250) and the dealer discount. He botched the number at the first go and after I pressed him to give me more details he even took off the 3%.

So I wonder how many dealers actually honor both at this point.

 

[mnm2008]

For anyone that had this deal worked out..
What did you show as proof for your VW TDI Settlement Offer?

 

[ses310]

To answer a couple of questions:

The dealer won't give you their dealer discount plus the VW special deal. As I mentioned earlier and was quoted above, the special pricing for VW owners starts at MSRP. Most dealers have their own internal discounting schemes. The dealer we did business with calculated it both ways for me. I came out better with the VW deal, so that's the way they priced it.

In addition, there are some other Hyundai discounts that were stacked on top...the 1k for owners of competing brands and the 4k off of 2016 model year cars were added to my discount. These deals change monthly, so it might be different now.

Proof that they asked for was the Vin# of our VW, so they could run it. I think I also brought them a copy of the title or registration, so they could copy it.

 

[mak618]

To answer a couple of questions:
The dealer won't give you their dealer discount plus the VW special deal. As I mentioned earlier and was quoted above, the special pricing for VW owners starts at MSRP. Most dealers have their own internal discounting schemes. The dealer we did business with calculated it both ways for me. I came out better with the VW deal, so that's the way they priced it.
In addition, there are some other Hyundai discounts that were stacked on top...the 1k for owners of competing brands and the 4k off of 2016 model year cars were added to my discount. These deals change monthly, so it might be different now.
Proof that they asked for was the Vin# of our VW, so they could run it. I think I also brought them a copy of the title or registration, so they could copy it.

Thank you! With this information the numbers the dealer gave made sense. The numbers with the VW deal do seem better. They didnt ask me for the VIN but asked me for an address and said they needed it to get a certificate generated out of Hyundai corporate.

 

[Kawazar]

It was a good deal for me. 2016 Sonata Hybrid SE MSRP $27110, out the door with NY taxes but not title, plates and reg $20024.

 

[Kylerk]

Pulled the trigger on a new Hyundai Azera . . .

I am now retired and no longer have a long commute to work so I decided to take advantage of the Hyundai/VW program that ends in a few days (1/3/17) and yesterday I upgraded from my 2013 Passat TDI to a new 2016 Hyundai Azera, which is in between the Sonata and the Genesis line and competes with the Toyota Avalon. There was a little confusion on the Hyundai dealer’s side because they were not too familiar with the program and I have not received my offer letter yet from VW so they had to go by my VIN, but eventually they figured it out and I ended up paying ~$7K under MSRP.

I don’t understand all the posts here that claim that you cannot take advantage of the Hyundai/VW program and combine with Hyundai's current available offers . . . I had no problem pointing out to the dealer I dealt with (Wayne Hyundai in NJ) that it clearly states on the Hyundai website at hyundaiusa.com/FamilyAndFriendsPlus and in the mailing we received:

“So we’re offering a special Family & Friends Plus Program* to select Volkswagen owners. Enjoy Hyundai Family & Friends pricing, plus an additional $1,000 off—and take advantage of all current incentives available. Select from our entire line-up of vehicles including stylish CUVs, hatchbacks and sedans.”

Through the process the dealer was in direct communication with Hyundai corporate and they were assured that they would be directly compensated for the deal – so they had no problem going through with it.

I’m a little shocked that more are not taking advantage of this program – I think it’s a no-brainer. From a financial standpoint I feel like I just paid $8K cash from my bank account (after I get my $22K from VW for my Passat) and I’m now holding the title to an incredibly well-built car with tons of bells and whistles worth ~$37K that has the best warranty in the industry and will last me for years to come.

 

[r108j]

Replaced my TDIs with a Sonata Plug-in Hybrid Limited and a Elantra Value Edition

Turned in my 2013 Passat TDI SEL and 2009 Jetta TDI on Tuesday.

The VW buyback on the Passat was $30,046.73 and the out the lot cost for the Sonata PHEV was $37,105.28 with a federal tax credit of $4,919 and a CA rebate of $1,500 (which I don't qualify for). I have driven the Sonata about 1000 miles so far and the gas tank is still more than 1/2 full. The space, the comfort, the features, the fit and finish are outstanding. The ride and handling are quite good, although I do miss the Passat in this area. The plug in battery robs space in the trunk but as PHEVs go, the Sonata has the best trunk space and it passes our 3 check in bags test. The warranty is the best in the industry.

The VW buyback on the Jetta was $16,576.73 and the out the lot cost for the Elantra Value Edition was $17,611.04. It is amazing to see all the features loaded into this car. It is for my son and I wanted to make sure that many of the latest safety features were there.

I settled on both these cars after an extensive analysis of the various options on the market. I was amazed how competitive the Hyundai offerings were overall.

 

[Ares]

We came close to buying a 2017 Sonata PHEV. The Hyundai Circle V-Plan pricing and current offers in my area was about $6000. Plus the $4900 Federal rebate. Such a nice vehicle for the price. In the end the Base would have been about $25k with 6% tax, fees, and tags.

Looking at our driving needs, we wanted utility and AWD, so a CPO Forester was the best choice. It came in $2000 less than our buyback.