How to do your buyback calculations (& post them here!)

DUBPL8

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Here's mine from here: http://phpbbcalendarmod.com/buyback/index.php/calculator/

Base Vehicle
Texas, SW
2012 - Golf
Hatchback 4D TDI 20267
Automatic Trans 750
Subtotals
21017
Assuming 68000 mileage at trade in March 2017 (18 months since September 2015).
Adjustment = 1042 mileage/month x 18 months.
Adjusted mileage for September 2015 = 49244 270 45
Final Values
21287
 

LogicBomb

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Here's mine from here: http://phpbbcalendarmod.com/buyback/index.php/calculator/

Base Vehicle
Texas, SW
2012 - Golf
Hatchback 4D TDI 20267
Automatic Trans 750
Subtotals
21017
Assuming 68000 mileage at trade in March 2017 (18 months since September 2015).
Adjustment = 1042 mileage/month x 18 months.
Adjusted mileage for September 2015 = 49244 270 45
Final Values
21287
So yeah, you can pay it off now, and get the money back later from VW. Or just ride it out make your monthly and pocket the difference come March 2017.
 

St.Hubbins

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52k miles on a 2010 Golf yields a buyback mileage adjustment of $1200. Where does the extra $3900 come from? It looks like you're trying to come up with a minimum mileage adjustment of +$5100, which isn't the way it works.

You've got the correct base buyback price for your car, and the correct adjustment for options. Now you also need to figure the modification amount ($5067, + $110 for the DSG, or $5177). To that, add the mileage adjustment for modification ($200, for a new total of $5377). If, and only if, the modification amount is less than $5100, you do further calculations. Your modification amount isn't, so no further changes. Your buyback would be $17,327.
thanks, knew that was high... i read the below as i should add the 1,200 to the difference of 5,100 and 1,200, which is 3,900... it even still literally reads that way to me now, even though that would be a convoluted step in the equation (it is VAG after all!)

"If the Modification amount from (5) above is less than $5,100:
a. Subtract the Modification amount from (5) from $5,100.
b. For Buyback: Add the result from (a) to the number from (5) above.
This is your Mileage‐Adjusted Buyback Amount."
 

DanB36

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The Modification amount is not the Mileage Adjustment. The Modification amount is the amount they'll pay you if you have the car modified.
 

autdi

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The Modification amount is not the Mileage Adjustment. The Modification amount is the amount they'll pay you if you have the car modified.
It is also the Owner Restitution payment, which is subject to a 5100 minimum. To see if you need to adjust anything, take column 2, +- miles +- options, if under 5100, subtract the number you got from 5100, you will need this in a minute.

Now take the column 1 number, +- miles +- options. If you got something from the first step, you add it here, that's how you are certain to get the 5100 minimum.
 

KyMoonshine

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Math hurts my brain

I need some help from somebody that can math, I'm a radio Dj and don't math much if any lol, I can math the numbers and keep getting different amounts, The big problem I have is I purchased the car in November last year so I split some part of my offer with the previous owner. If anyone would take the time to help me I would greatly appreciate it.
2009 Jetta Sportwagen in Eastern $13877
6 speed manual -$600
Pano roof +$540
Current mileage that will not increase(car has been parked for months) 138961
I would just like to know an estimate of what I may be getting back. Also I bought the car from a Nissan dealership after a friend of mine traded it in on a new car, I wonder if he or the dealer will get the other half of the money? it sat on their lot for a couple of months I know.
 

Jimmy Coconuts

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I need some help from somebody that can math, I'm a radio Dj and don't math much if any lol, I can math the numbers and keep getting different amounts, The big problem I have is I purchased the car in November last year so I split some part of my offer with the previous owner. If anyone would take the time to help me I would greatly appreciate it.
2009 Jetta Sportwagen in Eastern $13877
6 speed manual -$600
Pano roof +$540
Current mileage that will not increase(car has been parked for months) 138961
I would just like to know an estimate of what I may be getting back. Also I bought the car from a Nissan dealership after a friend of mine traded it in on a new car, I wonder if he or the dealer will get the other half of the money? it sat on their lot for a couple of months I know.
Looks to me like your cut is $10,100, assuming an October buyback.

A November buyback bumps it up to $10,275.


$13817-1770+603-2550 = $10,100 (October)

$13817-1560+568-2550 = $10,275 (November)
 
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autdi

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Also I bought the car from a Nissan dealership after a friend of mine traded it in on a new car, I wonder if he or the dealer will get the other half of the money? it sat on their lot for a couple of months I know.
All depends on dates. Your friend, as a seller after 9/18/2015 can claim 50% of the owner restitution payment. The dealer, because they bought after 9/18/15, cannot claim the seller benefit as they didn't own the car 9/18/15.

If your friend sold before 9/18/15, then the dealer becomes the owner on 9/18/15, and they can claim the 50%, having sold to you after 9/18/15, unless they own a VW dealership, as they are then excluded from the settlement , depending on how the trade resulted in the dealer owning the car (this part is murky as it depends on how the business is set up).
 

CraziFuzzy

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thanks, knew that was high... i read the below as i should add the 1,200 to the difference of 5,100 and 1,200, which is 3,900... it even still literally reads that way to me now, even though that would be a convoluted step in the equation (it is VAG after all!)
It's actually the FTC that made those documents, I believe.
 

coolbreeze

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2015 Golf TDI SE DSG - 2016 Tig SE for the wifey
New Purchase

I work at Carmax and a very nice 2012 Jetta Sportwagen with low miles hit our inventory and I couldn't resist the price, so I added a second TDI to the family.


SE Buyback is 20,777
Sound System 360
Nav 660
Pano 630
Mileage 750
TOTAL 23,177

Subtract 50% to previous owner = 20,189
 

ivebeeneverywhere

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2011 JSW 6MT (buyback someday)
$17,957 - 2011 JSW, 6M, Pano, estimated miles in October 91250(I'm getting ready to park it and not drive it much).

I'd be pretty happy with that number.

Now I just don't know what to buy. Everything is some sort of trade off.
 

KyMoonshine

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Looks to me like your cut is $10,100, assuming an October buyback.
A November buyback bumps it up to $10,275.
$13817-1770+603-2550 = $10,100 (October)
$13817-1560+568-2550 = $10,275 (November)
He said it booked at around $12k when he traded it in, I don't think $10k will get me out of the car, it is completely immaculate and looks and drives like brand new. I think I'll just start driving it again as my MK1 doesn't have A/C lol
 

Gary Barnhill

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2013 Passat TDI SE SR & Nav
2013 Passat SE w/SR & Nav

MSRP $31,275
Price $26,275 ($5,000 discount paid new in Aug 2013)
W/Tax$28,727 full price out the door w/3 years free maintenace
BuyBack $22,637
Credit SR $ 780
Credit Nav $ 840
SubTotal $24,257
Add miles $ 4,470 Oct 2018 turn in with 43,000 mi on odometer
Total Buyback amount $28,757
Cost of ownership for 63 months: $30 (excluding annual registration renewal)
In addition to above; I added a rear view camera for $380.
My only issue will be likely tire replacement before 43,000.
If I go to 48,000 miles the buyback is reduced $690 or 13.8 cents per mile.
 

Airpizz6

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Now TDI-free, but there now is a 15 MB E250 BT in the driveway
That all sounds good, but don't forget that VW is putting a fixed number of dollars in the pot. There is a chance that the pot could run dry before you submit your claim. Which means that you could get ZERO! I would be very careful.
 

Gary Barnhill

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Good point Airpizz6, I'll take that under advisement. I just need to wait until late 2017 when various 2018 model year cars become available (all new Camry and Accord, possible Benz E Class diesel, etc) with more autonomous modes. The new Tiguan sounds particularly exciting although I'm not a SUV fan but will take a look. Also, I'm hoping VW returns to the diesel market. My dealer thinks they might in 2017.
 

Chacko

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Louisville
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2009 Jetta Sportwagon
MSRP $31,275
Price $26,275 ($5,000 discount paid new in Aug 2013)
W/Tax$28,727 full price out the door w/3 years free maintenace
BuyBack $22,637
Credit SR $ 780
Credit Nav $ 840
SubTotal $24,257
Add miles $ 4,470 Oct 2018 turn in with 43,000 mi on odometer
Total Buyback amount $28,757
Cost of ownership for 63 months: $30 (excluding annual registration renewal)
In addition to above; I added a rear view camera for $380.
My only issue will be likely tire replacement before 43,000.
If I go to 48,000 miles the buyback is reduced $690 or 13.8 cents per mile.

WOW. What a score :eek::)
 

DUBPL8

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That all sounds good, but don't forget that VW is putting a fixed number of dollars in the pot. There is a chance that the pot could run dry before you submit your claim. Which means that you could get ZERO! I would be very careful.
Agreed. The sooner the better. I'd rather lose out on a few hundred than a few thousand or a lot more.
 

autdi

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That all sounds good, but don't forget that VW is putting a fixed number of dollars in the pot. There is a chance that the pot could run dry before you submit your claim. Which means that you could get ZERO! I would be very careful.
The pool was sized based on 100% buyback rate and 100% lease termination. Basically, it can't run out.
 

2015vwgolfdiesel

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That all sounds good, but don't forget that VW is putting a fixed number of dollars in the pot. There is a chance that the pot could run dry before you submit your claim. Which means that you could get ZERO! I would be very careful.
Yes

I think VW is CAPED at 10.5 BILLION
 

dbias

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2015 Passat SE w sunroof buyback 3/18/17
This is making my head hurt.
If any wants to take shot at this have at it.
2015 passat tdi se with sunroof and dsg
Bought new on 3/15/15.
as of today turned 41k.
Wife drives 600 miles per week to work and in the spring we take dozens of trips following daughters college softball team around the east coast.
 
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aja8888

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This is making my head hurt.
If any wants to take shot at this have at it.
2015 passat tdi se with sunroof and dsg
Bought new on 3/15/15.
as of today turned 41k.
Wife drives 600 miles per week to work and in the spring we take dozens of trips following daughters college softball team around the east coast.

What proposed month/year would you be turning the car back? It's needed to estimate the miles driven calculation.
 

dbias

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What proposed month/year would you be turning the car back? It's needed to estimate the miles driven calculation.
If we take the buyback would probably be Oct of 2016. Wife wants to keep it so idk what to do there.
 

lktango

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What is the general consensus if you keep the car and take the settlement (not the buy back), will you be forced to modify the car to comply?
 

Graplr

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Ok, I'm confused by the bought after September 15th money. I'm in this crew. My adjustment is around 14,000.

If I sold it back what would I get? I know there is something about a 50% split with the previous owner, but splitting a buy back doesn't make sense. Or is it just split if I keep and modify?

Or would I get the ~$14k for selling it back and then split the $5100 with the previous owner?

I've got a 2010 JSW.
Thanks,
Ryan
 
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Graplr

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Ok, I'm confused by the bought after September 15th money. I'm in this crew. My adjustment is around 14,000.

If I sold it back what would I get? I know there is something about a 50% split with the previous owner, but splitting a buy back doesn't make sense. Or is it just split if I keep and modify?

Or would I get the ~$14k for selling it back and then split the $5100 with the previous owner?

I've got a 2010 JSW.
Thanks,
Ryan
Think I may have figured it out..please correct me if I'm wrong. The buyback value according to the calculator is $14,925. The modification amount is $5100. So the PO would get half of $5100 ($2550) which would basically be subtracted from the amount that I would get. So $14,925-$2550= $12,375. So if I sold it back that is the amount I would get?

Is this correct reasoning?
 

sierra3

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Subtract 1/2 of the modification amount from the listed buyback amount (after options and mileage adjustments) and that is what the buyer gets. Listed 'buybacks' include the restitution amount....Another way to look at it is that you get 100% of the NADA clean-trade in value + 10% of the value + $2550 minimum.
 

MANTOOTH

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Seattle, WA
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Dieter - 2010 JSW
So I just did the calculation twice and this is what I got:

2010 Jetta SportWagen 4D TDI $15,497.00
Option: Navigation System $570.00
Option: Power Sunroof $540.00
Miles: 45001 - 50000
Odometer miles: 63000
Calculation month: October 2016
Mileage Adjustment: -13546
Effective miles: 49454 $1,980.00
Further Adjustment $0
(Total) $18,587.00

Here is my question. Sadly last week I got hit driving home from work (other guy's fault) but the car is still driveable. The insurance estimated the damage at about $4300 and has agreed to pay me the estimate. Should I get the car fixed, or should I pocket the damages and leave the car as-is until VW buys it back in October? Will I still get the total estimated above even with a damaged car?

Many many apologies if this has been asked before, was having trouble finding an answer.
 
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DanB36

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Should I get the car fixed, or should I pocket the damages and leave the car as-is until VW buys it back in October?
Pocket the money. As the proposed settlement reads, condition of the car isn't a factor in the buyback.
 
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