p5150
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Take my advice for what its worth. This is by no means an all-inclusive how to so dont blame me for any shortcomings. Im an ASE certified engine mechanic but my TDI experience is limited. Ive done a lot of timing belts but no TDIs before this.
Due to the lack of a good A5 how-to, I started out my timing belt with the guidance for an A4, but a few things are different. Although I have never done a A4 belt, it appears by reading other posts that an A5 is much easier.
In retrospect, I wouldnt have removed the cam/valve cover or the dual fuel/air pump. I did it because you have to for the A4. Not necessary on the A5 because you dont need to realign the cam sprocket with the camshaft. You dont need to remove the cam sprocket.
Specialty Tools REQUIRED:
Camshaft Sprocket Locking Pin - MN3359
Crankshaft Locking Tool - MNT10100
12-point INTERNAL wrenching 10mm bit (also called a tri-square)
19mm 12-point deepwell socket (for rotating crankshaft)
Due to the lack of a good A5 how-to, I started out my timing belt with the guidance for an A4, but a few things are different. Although I have never done a A4 belt, it appears by reading other posts that an A5 is much easier.
In retrospect, I wouldnt have removed the cam/valve cover or the dual fuel/air pump. I did it because you have to for the A4. Not necessary on the A5 because you dont need to realign the cam sprocket with the camshaft. You dont need to remove the cam sprocket.
Specialty Tools REQUIRED:
Camshaft Sprocket Locking Pin - MN3359
Crankshaft Locking Tool - MNT10100
12-point INTERNAL wrenching 10mm bit (also called a tri-square)
19mm 12-point deepwell socket (for rotating crankshaft)
- Put the car on jackstands. Dont get under the car unless it is on jackstands. Dont be stupid, they are really cheap at Harbor Freight.
- Turn the steering wheel all the way to the right.
- Remove top engine covers, bottom engine cover and lower passenger side engine/wheelwell cover.
- Remove coolant overflow reservoir.
- Disconnect fuel filter lines running across the front of the engine. Leave the aluminum lines attached to the valve cover. Make sure to leave the other lines from the chassis connected to the filter. Remove the fuel filter mounting bolts and set it out of the way.
- Remove the intercooler to throttle body air duct. Plug the throttle body and intercooler pipes to keep things out.
- Disconnect the throttle body wire and move it out of the way.
- Using a 17mm open end wrench on the tab on top of the accessory belt tensioner, release the pressure on the accessory drive belt and remove it.
- I recommend against rotating the crankshaft counter clockwise. This puts pressure on the tensioner that it is not designed to hold. Rotate the engine only in the clockwise direction except for small (less than one tooth) adjustments while installing the belt.
- Use your SPECIALTY TOOL internal wrenching 12-point 10mm bit to remove the accessory belt pulley. I placed my 19mm socket with a 1/2" drive ratchet on the crank rotation bolt to hold the crank stationary while I broke the torque on the 4 bolts retaining the pulley with a 3/8" drive ratchet. If you set it up right you can just squeeze the two ratchets together to break torque and do the same for the reinstall. The pulley will come right off so dont drop it on your face.
- Remove the accessory belt tensioner. (2 bolts)
- Place a jack with some type of pad under the edge of the oil pan. I used a phone book and it worked like a champ. Support the weight of the engine with the jack. STAY OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE ENGINE AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THE JACK COULD FAIL. DONT RELY ON THE JACK FOR SAFETY WHILE YOU WORK UNDER THE CAR.
- Completely remove the motor mount to include the vibration dampner on the car. (4 bolts and 2 bolts on chassis/mount tie plate) Also remove the adapter fixture on the engine. (3 bolts) Pressurize/relieve pressure on jack or move engine as necessary to take tension off bolts to aid with removal.
- Remove the upper timing belt cover. Using 10mm standard socket, remove the lower timing belt covers.
- Get a good look at the belt and how it is routed. Using the 19mm socket (1/2" drive ratchet preferred) rotate the engine CLOCKWISE (as looking at the pullies through the passenger side wheelwell).
- Look closely at your Crankshaft Locking Tool - MNT10100 and you will see an arrow on the face slightly offset from the top. This tells you your CRANKshaft point of #1 cyl TDC. When installed, its arrow should line up with the arrow on the crankshaft timing belt pulley. DO NOT INSTALL THE LOCKING TOOL YET
- The CAMshaft position determines if the CRANKshaft point of TDC is on the compression or exhaust/intake stroke. Remember that the camshaft will rotate once for every two rotations of the crankshaft. When the camshaft is correctly positioned, the locking pin will fit on the left side of the pulley (vehicle aft side) and keep it from rotating. You can always look at the back of the cam pulley to see where the hole is that goes all the way through it by checking periodically as you rotate the crank pulley. This will help you get the pin positioned correctly.
- Use of the MN3036 tool to hold or turn the camshaft sprocket really isnt mandatory but it helps to get the pin aligned. You can also rotate the engine with this tool. Dont attempt to rotate the engine with the camshaft sprocket bolt.
- Insert the camshaft sprocket locking pin once the motor is placed at #1 CYL TDC on the COMPRESSION stroke. Once the pin is installed, insert the crankshaft locking tool and verify that the arrow on the tool is aligned with the arrow on the crank timing belt sprocket. You may need to SLIGHTLY rotate the crank with your 19mm socket to get it to seat. One tooth is one tooth too many.
- It is also OK to put in the crank lock and then try to get in the cam pin if you are having trouble with the order of things.
- Once all of the locks are installed, loosen the tensioner nut and relieve the tension by rotating the tensioner cam with a 5mm allen head. I marked the old belt and cam/crank sprockets with paint and then transferred the old marks to my new belt just as a safety measure.
- Loosen the idler pulley nut and remove the idler pulley. The belt should come out easily now.
- Change the water pump.
- Transfer marks to new belt (optional). If you do this, ensure that you dont make a mirror image of the marks by placing the faces of the belts together. Transfer the marks by placing the back of the new belt on the face of the old one.
- Align tab of tensioner and install on engine. Do not tighten retention nut.
- Begin the install of the new timing belt. Do not pry the belt. Your optional marks should line up and the belt should at least be halfway on. You dont need to put in the idler pulley yet. Once the belt has been started, you may not be able to get it all the way on very easily. Remove the pin from the cam sprocket and the locking tool from the crank. Rotate the engine while gently pushing on the belt to feed it all the way onto the sprockets. The engine should rotate smoothly with the only resistance being the compression of the air. IF AT ANY POINT THE ENGINE FEELS AS IF YOU HAVE SOLID RESISTANCE (NOT NORMAL ENGINE COMPRESSION) YOU MUST STOP!!! Dont force it and bend a valve.
- FYI: If you have marked the belt, the marks will no longer align after rotation of the engine. The marks only serve for sprocket orientation during installation and should not be used for verification after the motor has been rotated.
- Once the belt is fed all the way on, install the idler pulley and torque to specs.
- Rotate the engine at least two more complete revolutions with your 19mm socket/ratchet. The engine should rotate smoothly with the only resistance being the compression of the air. With a 5mm allen wrench rotate the cam on the belt tensioner until the spring force indicator needle points in the middle of the gap. Torque to specs
- Continue to rotate clockwise. Stop at TDC on the compression stroke again. Re-insert the locking tools to verify that your timing is still correct. If timing is incorrect, you MUST fix it by removing the belt at this point and readjusting your cam sprocket. Chances are that if you ARE off it is only by one tooth.
- REMOVE LOCKING TOOLS.
- Install timing belt covers.
- Install motor mounts. Torque to specs and remove jack. i used the specs for an A4.
- Install accessory drive pulley. There is an alignment nipple on the face of the timing belt sprocket for the small hole in the accessory belt pulley.
- Install accessory drive belt tensioner and drive belt.
- Install fuel filter and coolant overflow bottle.
- Connect throttle body wire.
- Conduct a good tool check and start the car. If the car doesnt want to fire, take note of the sound of the electric priming pump. It runs for about 3 seconds. Turn the engine over only when the priming pump is running in order to push the air out of the system. Mine had a hard time starting so I did about 5 consecutive 3-second cranking periods with full on/off key positions and it fired right up.
- Fill your coolant.
- Reinstall undercarriage protective covers after a good leak check.
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