How much hp can be squeezed out of an alh?

[brum]

Have somebody made the PD crankshaft to work with rotor pump head/ECU? If so - how? I suppose the way is to replace the crankshaft position sensor plate, but it would be nice to know how.

 

[hatemi]

Yep. All thats needed is changing that trigger wheel. And all of the timing belt gears and seals/plates and covers on that side.

 

[TDIJetta99]

The front cover is the same with the same seal on a BEW.. All you need to change is the trigger wheel for the crank sensor, and use an ALH crank gear..

It would take a little more creativity to use it in a 1z/ahu...

 

[Yucca]

ALH, Borg Warner S256V with 3bar boost, 11mm pump, HFLO-X 5 x 0.341 Nozzles.

336bhp
557Nm

Most powerful ALH with 11mm pump?

 

[TDIfreak]

That is huge power from the 11mm pump! And is this one of the most powerful with any VP37 pump?

RPM axis is not right in that pic.

 

[Yucca]

I think that RPM axis is quite right, full fuel to 5700rpm.

 

[TDIfreak]

Just that the curve peaks and peak number rpms don't match.

 

[TDIJetta99]

The scale is different for the HP and torque curves.. The torque curve should peak significantly higher on the graph than the hp, and they should cross each other at 5252rpm, but that's only if the scale is the same for both curves..

 

[nicklockard]

To the original question: a few members have crept up on 300 hp.

But from a cost-performance benefit, it kind of goes like this:

+50 hp......$1,450
+100 hp.....$4,300
+150 hp.....$7,500
+200 hp.....$11,500

And that doesn't include any suspension upgrades. Don't forget as you increase power, your car is going to flex and wallow without extra strut tower bracing and upgraded suspension to get the power to the ground effectively and SAFELY. At those higher power levels, you might as well weld up all the unibody seams and go all out on custom build options.

 

[Yucca]

Just that the curve peaks and peak number rpms don't match.

Too much Graph Filter.

 

[TDIJetta99]

To the original question: a few members have crept up on 300 hp.

But from a cost-performance benefit, it kind of goes like this:

+50 hp......$1,450
+100 hp.....$4,300
+150 hp.....$7,500
+200 hp.....$11,500

And that doesn't include any suspension upgrades. Don't forget as you increase power, your car is going to flex and wallow without extra strut tower bracing and upgraded suspension to get the power to the ground effectively and SAFELY. At those higher power levels, you might as well weld up all the unibody seams and go all out on custom build options.

The +50hp can be done with a tune, nozzles, and cheap inlet/exhaust upgrades on an ALH..

The rest of them seem about right depending on whether you're doing the work yourself or paying someone else to do it..

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

And a clutch.

 

[JFettig]

+50 hp......$1,450
+100 hp.....$4,300
+150 hp.....$7,500
+200 hp.....$11,500

maybe if you're having someone build it for you..

I am around the +150hp range and I'm no where near your numbers

 

[sauron18]

When is necessary to lower the CR beyond 250bhp or getting to 300bhp?

 

[TDIJetta99]

maybe if you're having someone build it for you..
I am around the +150hp range and I'm no where near your numbers

On an ALH?

 

[JFettig]

I'd have to look at the numbers, I could be wrong. AHH(AHU with 11mm pump and vnt)
-edit- I guess I'm around 5k, guessing 230hp based on Jeremy's build, will dyno soon.

 

[TDIJetta99]

Ya there are a LOT of variables that affect the $$.. Most of which is whether you are doing the work yourself or paying someone to do it.. Labor time adds up very quickly..

 

[Yucca]

When is necessary to lower the CR beyond 250bhp or getting to 300bhp?

This 336bhp alh is with stock CR.

 

[nicklockard]

There are very few documented ALH's in the +200 HP range. 4, maybe 5 in the world? Stock rods start bending at +150 HP levels pretty quick.


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[hatemi]

You could not be much more wrong. 200hp has been done and done again on countles ALHs around the world. And with stock unopenned engines.

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[IndigoBlueWagon]

And they do bend rods. Many people (like me) don't even know. And nick, if you have to replace rods to produce 150 HP (which I don't think you do) your numbers are low. There are many ways to get to the 150 HP range so costs will vary by approach.

 

[PeterV]

Do not confuse the Euro cars for the US spec units.

 

[JFettig]

90 +200 = 290hp
90 +150 = 240hp

 

[TDIJetta99]

I had nowhere near $4300 in my 99.5 and it made a touch under 200hp on a Dyno Dynamics "heartbreaker" series... I'm pretty sure I was under/around $3k..

 

[turbocharged798]

The +50hp can be done with a tune, nozzles, and cheap inlet/exhaust upgrades on an ALH..
The rest of them seem about right depending on whether you're doing the work yourself or paying someone else to do it..

There is no way you are getting 140Hp out of a VNT15. You will need a VNT17 at the minimum.

 

[ryanp]

ALH - DynoDynamics:

The van has done 30,000miles + in this state of tune, stock Turbo and stock engine.

To get to that power it would cost less than £1000 fitted and mapped easily, i dont normally push a customers car as far as this for obvious reasons but a healthy 150bhp (FLYWHEEL) is possible

 

[IndigoBlueWagon]

I got 155/270 on a hub-centric dyno with IBW with RC3 (18.5 PSI), 11mm pump, PP520s, 2.5" exhaust, PD150 breathing mods, and the original VNT-15 that came on the car. Ran the car like that for the better part of 2 years. Turbo is still running on a colleague's NB.

 

[TDIJetta99]

There is no way you are getting 140Hp out of a VNT15. You will need a VNT17 at the minimum.

False LOL.. 150 can be had on a conservative dyno if everything else is just right.. IBW got 155 with his VNT15 equipped car.. 140 is easy...

 

[mrchill]

And it was WHP.

 

[turbocharged798]

False LOL.. 150 can be had on a conservative dyno if everything else is just right.. IBW got 155 with his VNT15 equipped car.. 140 is easy...

Impressive, I need a hotter tune. lol

Also the VNT15 has super quick spool so that is a instant 140HP.