Has anyone got a DSG?

[madhun]

I have a DSG Golf and about to upgrade to a DSG Tdi Passat; I'll never own a spanish or slush box again.

EDIT: I've just clicked over 235000kms in the DSG and still average around 1000kms to 55L of diesel. It'll be a pretty special gasser that will get my attention for future purchases.

 

[WFL]

Went from manual 2009 tdi wagon to DSG Passat. No going back. Liked the manual but the DSG is much better overall. If I want to shift gears, I'll just drive my truck.

 

[skinnyb]

Went from manual 2009 tdi wagon to DSG Passat. No going back. Liked the manual but the DSG is much better overall. If I want to shift gears, I'll just drive my truck.

I tend to agree. I did the same thing and feel the same way. I might feel different the first time I have to bend over and take one for the team at the 40k service. Luckily I have VCDS and access to tools to do the service myself, just have to buy the expensive supplies.

 

[abctdi]

I think if you add up all the effort to self shift vs. auto shift, the DSG will take less over the life of the car.
For those who like to shift all the time, there is no reasoning with them.
I'm talking about everyday normal driving, not competition of course.

 

[de3de88]

I ordered the DSG due to stop and go traffic issues of my commute. Great tranny, was hard to get used to compression braking as you quickly are lulled into thinking it is an auto by virtue of how well it works. BUT, if you like shifting and have no traffic conjestion/stop and go concerns then do the manual. As above, I would have but would never be enjoyable as now is.

 

[darrelld]

 

[de3de88]

Guess I should have been more clear and indicated that I liked the compression braking feature but never the less, still lulled into thinking it's a conventional auto. In congestion it is useful/convenient to stay out of the brakes. Also getting better by the day of using the manual position to shift down in anticipating the need for slowing and not having to use the brakes. Downshifts are delayed but will soon master the timing. When cruising on interstate and going down long grades popping into D will garner better mileage. For sure great feature/choice to have.

 

[darrelld]

Guess I should have been more clear and indicated that I liked the compression braking feature but never the less, still lulled into thinking it's a conventional auto. In congestion it is useful/convenient to stay out of the brakes. Also getting better by the day of using the manual position to shift down in anticipating the need for slowing and not having to use the brakes. Downshifts are delayed but will soon master the timing. When cruising on interstate and going down long grades popping into D will garner better mileage. For sure great feature/choice to have.

The DSG in the Passat feels very much like a traditional auto especially when compared to the DSG in my Jetta.

You will notice that any application of the brakes turns off freewheel. I try to stay in freewheel as much as I can anticipate reduced speed for fuel economy.

 

[de3de88]

The DSG in the Passat feels very much like a traditional auto especially when compared to the DSG in my Jetta.

You will notice that any application of the brakes turns off freewheel. I try to stay in freewheel as much as I can anticipate reduced speed for fuel economy.

10-4, another useful option depending on driving conditions. Tks!

 

[MyAvocation]

Darrell, I'm a little confused on the freewheel feature. Obviously it's handy for highway coasting. Do I assume correctly it still kills fuel to the motor when active -- like all previous DSGs? And what are the benefits other than coasting farther distances?

Engine braking keeps my foot off the brake and is a favorite feature of the DSG. Hell, my rear pads are still original at 185K and fronts lasted to 120K. Guess I won't know if it's worth it until owning one for a few weeks. Hopefully it can be disabled through VCDS... not sure I want to flip to Tiptronic or Sport Mode every time I let off the go pedal.

 

[darrelld]

Darrell, I'm a little confused on the freewheel feature. Obviously it's handy for highway coasting. Do I assume correctly it still kills fuel to the motor when active -- like all previous DSGs? And what are the benefits other than coasting farther distances?

Engine braking keeps my foot off the brake and is a favorite feature of the DSG. Hell, my rear pads are still original at 185K and fronts lasted to 120K. Guess I won't know if it's worth it until owning one for a few weeks. Hopefully it can be disabled through VCDS... not sure I want to flip to Tiptronic or Sport Mode every time I let off the go pedal.

Fuel economy is the primary reason for freewheel, rolling kinetic energy is preserved and not converted to heat through engine or brake pad friction.

I use the freewheel like cruise control, when anticipating slower traffic lightly tap the brake and freewheel disengages then the usual DSG compression braking takes over until you hit the accelerator again.

With my 2010 Jetta as soon as you lift off the accelerator engine braking immediately engages.

Fuel cutoff works the same as far as I know.

More interesting reading on Passat features here;
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