That is almost exactly what happened to me. It was a missing gasket in one of the hoses for the new kit. It could also be contributed to a loose hose as well. I ended up with a fault code, in earlier posts. If you have time I would give your dealer a call and see if they can double check the hoses that were installed.
I think I'll swing by there on Friday. My car makes boost just fine and pulls strong but just partial throttle stumbling that I had in the past rarely seems to be much more apparent and frequent. I'm not sure what the software changes as far as driveability goes.
I was making good boost as well, based on my torque app (using a custom PID equation that seems to work well). I also had a rather rough Regen with the missing gasket. Much worse than any I have had in the past. Best of luck to you.
I'm glad they got you back on the road for a fair price. I tend to agree that the cold weather intercooler kit probably isn't a necessity in Alabama, but you'll need to keep an eye on the condensation buildup (drain it periodically) if you all continue to get cold weather like this year has brought.
I'm furthur south in Atlanta than him in Huntsville and it happened to me. If you have humidity and subfreezing temps, id say just about everywhere NEEDS these. Even a guy from FL could visit somewhere else and be stranded.
This made me laugh. Very funny!Dealer knows enough about this in my part of the world that they dubbed this fix the "Quebec kit". It even says so on my invoice!
I have experienced similar problems to you guys - mainly a very rough regen cycle and lots of hiccups.
I would think that there would be a mileage loss with the new kit installed at temperatures below 10 degrees C (50 degrees F) since the intercooler is not working at full capacity/efficiency at the lower temperatures when the flap moves to bypass most of the intercooler. I have the same question about the software change. Is there a software change required when the kit is installed?I have experienced similar problems to you guys - mainly a very rough regen cycle and lots of hiccups.
More significant though, is the big fuel economy hit I've taken - especially at temps below 40F. I've seen an average mileage drop of around 5-10% for the year, with as much as 20% drop below 40F. Where I used to get 48/49 mpg straight highway in the summer, I get 45 now. Where I used to get 48/49 mpg straight highway in the winter, I can not break 40.
I've taken the car to the dealer twice and asked them to check everything over, they said they looked and everything was good. I looked myself, and couldn't find anything obvious amiss. But I didn't remove my front clip or even know what to look for really (probably the same for the techs that "checked it over.")
Also, I asked "could the software not have been updated when the kit was installed - can you check that the software is updated?" And they said the software is up to date, and that the kit didn't require a software update anyhow. Is that true?
I would also mention the fact that people with the intercooler update applied may still have issues. I had a solid hydro-lock and then several rough starts beginning in November 2013 after having TSB # 21 11 06 / 2025464 installed in April 2012.
Do you know if the intercooler kit you had installed is the latest version with the 10 degree C activation point?
I am not sure there is any foolproof solution. For now I am trying to use the covers that IDparts sells for the front grill. I will also drain the passenger side intercooler hose occasionally when I suspect I may have ingested water/ice.
The new engines are set up the same way as the passat. I believe that it is an air to water not an air to air system.
The latest version came out substantially later.
Actually, most commonly the ice forms while you're driving in below freezing temps. Then you park and it melts cuz you parked in a garage or the day warmed up. Now you have a slug of water ready to come through on your next start up.
I'm not sure I totally agree. Touch wood, but our 2013 Golf Wagon is driven in exactly the same conditions as our 2011 Golf hatch and has never had an issue. Same drivers, same weather. My wife does mostly local/rural driving and I do mostly highway, but we swap cars regularly.
Correct, new engine has a water-to-air intercooler built into the cross-flow cylinder head.
This seems to make sense to me. Any second opinions?
I think you may have something there with the EGR behavior. Soon after I had my icing start up problem, I threw a code relating to a sticking EGR valve. We cleaned the throttle valve and the EGR valve. Since then I have not had any icing problems. I am guessing that with these two valves functioning cleanly there may be less of a problem. But it is just a guess with no technical explanation. After 60,000 miles I am glad I cleaned those valves, they were quite dirty. It wasn't that big of a job.
