Hard brakes and no/low turbo....

SyNtAxx

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Hello,

Its been along time since Ive been to the forums. Life changes, etc. In any case I've come across an issue on my wifes 2004 PD. I think it is al related to vacuum, or lack there of.

I had an incident, though I think it is unrelated, but for full disclosure I'll include it. One day I was traveling and entering the highy on a merge ramp and hit the go pedal for some turbo juice...and heard a loud pop. I had no turbo. I limped home a few miles and inspected under the hood and found the boost pipe a the egr had blown off, no biggie and I reattached on purcahsed the hold down kit as the notches on the pipe had worn off.

Here is the actaul propblem(s). While moving the car in the driveway, I felt that the brakes seemed very soft and fell to the floor quickly with little actuation of the pads on the rotors.

I took the car for a ride later in the evening an noticed two things. The pedal seemed *very* hard now, like i had to stand on the brakes quite literally to get the car to brake. While returning home, I also noticed the turbo seemed to be missing. I hit the accelerator and the turbo came back, I also hit the brakes and they also then appeared to be functioning correctly.

I thought, hmm interesting. Since both the turbo (vnt actuator) and the power brakes need vacuum to operate these may be symptoms of the same problem. Which seemed to be lack of vacuum.

As I recall from instaling my timing belt on my 2001 TDI, ther eis a vacuum pump on the right side of the engine spun off the cam. Could this be the cause, a failed or failing pump?

I tested the master cylinder by stepping/pumping on brakes with car off/not running, and they are very hard. In the old days that seemed to rule out the brake booster/cylinder.

What ever the issue is its common to both turbo and the brakes. Any Ideas ?

Thanks,

NIck
 

Ol'Rattler

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Vacuum leak or failed vacuum pump.

You need to go buy a Mighty-Vac to find the problem. With it you can apply vacuum to various parts of the vacuum system to look for leaks and check the vacuum pump for proper operation.

Without a Mighty-Vac troubleshooting vacuum problems is just an exercise in futility.

Your vacuum pump is not located on the right side of the engine. Left and right on a car, truck or airplane is determined from what is left and right to you while sitting in the operators seat.
 
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wonneber

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Where the vacuum line from the brake booster hooks up to the vacuum pump check if the fitting going into the pump is loose.
Big loss of vacuum.
Also the hard plastic vacuum line is known to crack.

Rich W.
 

SyNtAxx

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Where the vacuum line from the brake booster hooks up to the vacuum pump check if the fitting going into the pump is loose.
Big loss of vacuum.
Also the hard plastic vacuum line is known to crack.

Rich W.
This is the issue. The pipe is split on the underside. I took a quick look online but didnt see any specific repoacement parts for it.

I presume and standard vacuum hose will work? What is the inside diameter I need to match here?

Thanks,

Nick
 

Deadend

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I have a leak at the vacuum pump nipple myself. Has anybody fixed this with silicone, or am I in for a new pump?
 

Ol'Rattler

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I have a leak at the vacuum pump nipple myself. Has anybody fixed this with silicone, or am I in for a new pump?
Silicone (RTV) does not belong anywhere on an automobile. What it does is contaminates the area you use it on so anything you use later will not stick.

Caulking your bath tub? Sure silicone is no problem. Any place on a car? Ah, no. Also, If you use it anyplace exposed to sunlight, a windshield say, over time it will turn green from whatever mold or fungus that is growing in it.
 
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wonneber

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Hose size

This is the issue. The pipe is split on the underside. I took a quick look online but didnt see any specific repoacement parts for it.

I presume and standard vacuum hose will work? What is the inside diameter I need to match here?

Thanks,

Nick
Sorry, I never tried regular vacuum hose.
Not sure if both ends will be the same size.

Rich W.
 

SyNtAxx

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Sorry, I never tried regular vacuum hose.
Not sure if both ends will be the same size.

Rich W.

I ended up buying what turned out to be power steering hose. I actually thought it was vacuum hose as it was on the same shelf.

I found a complete replacement part on one of the vendor sites. Thanks everyone.

Nick
 
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