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3L3M3NT

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Wow! Those turned out really nice. (y) :) It'll be interesting to see how that holds up on the exhaust manifold and downpipe.

Are you going to Cerakote the block too?

Now I know where I'm sending my parts in the future to have them coated.;)
 

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Are you going to Cerakote the block too?
I already painted the block with engine block enamel. If I hadn't painted it I would definitely Cerakote it. Maybe on the next build. 😏

Now I know where I'm sending my parts in the future to have them coated.;)
We (my son, William and I) definitely don't mind coating stuff for you. I'm not sure we're ready for prime-time yet tho. If you're ok with a few small flaws (a dust particle or two, etc.) then hit me up. I have been scrolling through Cerakote's air-dry colors for the last hour trying to decide on a couple more colors. In the meantime, here is a pic of the valve cover and the oil filter housing on the engine. The accessory bracket you see on the left side was one of the pieces I bought from another member on here who had them powdercoated. After doing the Cerakote I have decided that I will be taking that bracket back off and letting William use it on his built Beetle and I have another one I'm going to Cerakote the same color as the oil filter housing.

 

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If I remember correctly you coated the block in POR 15? It'll be interesting to see how the POR 15 holds up in comparison to Cerakote that's on the other parts of the engine.

I don't need a perfect finish by any means on the parts I would want coated. The only thing that I'm considering ordering in the future and your thread made me think of it, that would be a 3" TIP from Profidiesel. I'd of course pay for shipping, supplies, and your time if I go that route.
Makes me wonder what kind of improvement I would see if I had the intake manifold coated too, since it would be a thermal barrier of sorts?
 

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I don't need a perfect finish by any means on the parts I would want coated. The only thing that I'm considering ordering in the future and your thread made me think of it, that would be a 3" TIP from Profidiesel. I'd of course pay for shipping, supplies, and your time if I go that route.
Makes me wonder what kind of improvement I would see if I had the intake manifold coated too, since it would be a thermal barrier of sorts?
I have a 3" TIP from Profidiesel out there in my garage. It came with my downpipe and intake and exhaust manifolds a month ago or so. Maybe I will try and coat it this weekend and see how well I do. I'll let you know the results.
 

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I have a 3" TIP from Profidiesel out there in my garage. It came with my downpipe and intake and exhaust manifolds a month ago or so. Maybe I will try and coat it this weekend and see how well I do. I'll let you know the results.
Nice! You'll have to let me know how it fits as well, since I've heard great things about their products, but nothing first hand.
What color are you gonna coat the TIP?
 

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Nice! You'll have to let me know how it fits as well, since I've heard great things about their products, but nothing first hand.
What color are you gonna coat the TIP?
I only have 2 air dry colors at this point (and the TIP is too big to fit in my small toaster oven). One is the Glacier Titanium which I applied on all the parts I already posted pics of. The other one is a slate blue metallic. I have been scouring Cerakote's website trying to decide on a few more colors to order but I haven't finalized my order yet. I will probably coat all of my tubular manifolds and the TIP as well as my downpipe with the Glacier Titanium. My friend, who has a Master's degree in ceramics and is a professional artist, has been teasing me about my subdued color choices and thinks I need to get some primary colors. 😄

I haven't gotten around to coating anything today because some stuff came up but as soon as I have some results I'll post the pics.
 

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I only have 2 air dry colors at this point (and the TIP is too big to fit in my small toaster oven). One is the Glacier Titanium which I applied on all the parts I already posted pics of. The other one is a slate blue metallic. I have been scouring Cerakote's website trying to decide on a few more colors to order but I haven't finalized my order yet. I will probably coat all of my tubular manifolds and the TIP as well as my downpipe with the Glacier Titanium. My friend, who has a Master's degree in ceramics and is a professional artist, has been teasing me about my subdued color choices and thinks I need to get some primary colors. 😄

I haven't gotten around to coating anything today because some stuff came up but as soon as I have some results I'll post the pics.
I didn't realize that the Cerakote had to be put in an "oven" to cure. I thought it was similar to automotive paint that you could just spray on and let it dry over the course of a day or two.

Yeah, that's always the problem when you start coating things in your engine bay, interior, wheels, and brakes is what color scheme does one go with.🤷‍♂️ I think I've mostly got it figured out on the exterior and interior of the car, but when it comes to the engine bay stuff I'm not sure which color/colors to go with.
I'll have to go on Cerakote's site and see if I can narrow it down one of these days.

I can't wait to see how your parts turn out.:)(y)
 

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I didn't realize that the Cerakote had to be put in an "oven" to cure. I thought it was similar to automotive paint that you could just spray on and let it dry over the course of a day or two.

Yeah, that's always the problem when you start coating things in your engine bay, interior, wheels, and brakes is what color scheme does one go with.🤷‍♂️ I think I've mostly got it figured out on the exterior and interior of the car, but when it comes to the engine bay stuff I'm not sure which color/colors to go with.
I'll have to go on Cerakote's site and see if I can narrow it down one of these days.

I can't wait to see how your parts turn out.:)(y)
They have several series of their coatings. The C series are all air cure versions and they are 1 part and come mixed and ready to pour into your paint gun and spray. They have a very high content of the pigment in their coatings so a very light coat will cover completely. It is designed to be put on at .001" thick and have complete coverage and protection with no primer or anything else. The pieces dry to the touch in about an hour, can be handled and installed on your car in 24 hours and are fully cured in 5 days.

They also have several oven cure versions. Some of those are 1 part which are ready to spray right out of the container and some are 2 part with a catalyst and a color which require mixing prior to spraying. Those coatings are sprayed on, then you wait 15 minutes before putting in a 300º oven for one hour. After that hour they are fully cured and ready for anything. I have read that the oven cured versions are slightly more durable long-term and more scratch resistant but that the air cure versions are very good for all but the most extreme applications. I have one color in the 1 part oven cure series that is a flat black that we are applying on some gun parts and it has been just as easy to apply as the air cure versions and it is nice that after curing them in the oven for an hour we can put the gun back together and it's ready to go. However I really like the air cure versions I have because there is really no mystery to them. The main thing is the surface preparation. I have a sandblast cabinet that has 100 grit aluminum oxide in it. We sandblast the part until we have a "tooth" to the metal. Then we thoroughly clean the part with acetone to remove any contaminants at which point the part is ready to spray. The next time I coat something I will take some pics of the whole process and post them here.

In the meantime here are some pics of some different coatings and how they held up in a salt chamber test.







And here is a youtube showing that it took 2034 hours in the salt chamber before the part with Cerakote started to show corrosion.
 

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Cerakote isn't as simple as I originally thought it was. I thought it was just as simple as picking your color spraying the part and waiting for it to dry before you use it. From the way you describe it, it's more on par with powder coating or close to applying automotive paint. I guess like anything else, what you put in, is what you're going to get out.

Wow, does the Cerakote hold up to that salt spray test in comparison to all the other finishes! Makes me wonder how it would do if you were to coat some car parts that are on the exterior of the car like control arms, subframe, etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the process is for coating parts. :) (y)
 

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Wow, does the Cerakote hold up to that salt spray test in comparison to all the other finishes! Makes me wonder how it would do if you were to coat some car parts that are on the exterior of the car like control arms, subframe, etc.
I am definitely going to do my brake calipers with Cerakote. I hadn't thought about the control arms but I'll add those to the list as well. I've become somewhat addicted to coating stuff so I may end up in Cerakote rehab before this is all over. Yesterday I coated part of the oil cooler and when I was done I had a little bit of the material left in the spray gun so I found a rusty old pair of Craftsman pliers in my toolbox, sandblasted them and coated them as well. I may not stop until every metal item I own is coated. :ROFLMAO:

 
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