Green Diesel Cap - Void Warranty

Garythiv

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The the 'color-coding' of fuels may come from the NATO 'standards' for jerry-cans, usually the color-coding is on the cap-securing strap, or a painted band on the can :
Red-gasoline Green-coolant
Yellow-diesel Black-potable water
Blue, or Grey-kerosene
Orange-naptha/white gas
 

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The the 'color-coding' of fuels may come from the NATO 'standards' for jerry-cans, usually the color-coding is on the cap-securing strap, or a painted band on the can :
Red-gasoline Green-coolant
Yellow-diesel Black-potable water
Blue, or Grey-kerosene
Orange-naptha/white gas
Accurate info, thanks.

We cannot depend on ANY fuel color code in the USA... the color of the handle varies from station to station. (Civilian World)

READ THE LABEL ON THE PUMP. MATCH THE LABEL ON THE PUMP TO THE HOSE IN YOUR HAND.
PAY ATTENTION TO THE MATTER AT HAND.
 

romad

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The the 'color-coding' of fuels may come from the NATO 'standards' for jerry-cans, usually the color-coding is on the cap-securing strap, or a painted band on the can :
Red-gasoline Green-coolant
Yellow-diesel Black-potable water
Blue, or Grey-kerosene
Orange-naptha/white gas
That is what I said: "mil standard"
 

vwjettatdimkvi

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I just got my "yellow" tags in the mail. Its a factory update so just bring your car to the dealer and they will put one on for you right away.
 

vwestlife

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Perhaps with a few slight modifications they could be adopted:
Red would be for gasoline; Green for Ethanol; Yellow for Diesel (or maybe it would be better to have Yellow for Ethanol, and Green for Diesel); Blue for BioDiesel.
Yellow is typically used to indicate a flex-fuel vehicle that can run on E85 ethanol, likely due to its association with corn.
 

romad

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Yellow is typically used to indicate a flex-fuel vehicle that can run on E85 ethanol, likely due to its association with corn.
Did you see the the part that Yellow is the Mil-Spec for Diesel that is (and has been for years) used by NATO & DOD? Also, civilian portable containers are Yellow with the word DIESEL molded into them. Though I agree somebody thought since ONE product that is used for ethanol was corn then all ethanol pumps should be yellow.
 
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What use is a standard if it is not followed?
But it IS FOLLOWED, although only by members of NATO. My local fuel (gas) station is not a member... darn it.

Read the sign on the pump... just like grampa did. It is a standard of sorts and it works every time. :D

Bill
 

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What use is a standard if it is not followed?
But it IS FOLLOWED, although only by members of NATO. My local fuel (gas) station is not a member... darn it.

Read the sign on the pump... just like grampa did. It is a standard of sorts and it works every time. :D

Bill
Also, when you go to the store to buy a portable fuel container, they come as:

Red with the word Gasoline molded into the container

Blue with the word Kerosene molded into the container

Yellow with the word Diesel molded into the container

so the standard colors are followed there.
 

williamgd2

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But Nj

I bought a 2013 JSW earlier this month, and the fuel cap -- while not green -- says "DIESEL" in big letters in two places on the cap.

Doesn't your 2013 model have that? Isn't that enough?

And there's the misfueling guard, too.

Dave, who says he knows that while sometimes he'll be annoyed by the misfueling guard that he'll likely appreciate it more over the long run especially when he goes to the NJ border fueling stations right outside Port Jervis NY
Allows you to self serve diesle but only diesle. But weather all the attendents know that? I couldn't tell you.
 

c17chief

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No, There should never be a situation like that, because your car has a fuel gauge and the driver can plan ahead, anticipating and calculating when the most convenient time/location to fuel up might be.

Assuming, of course that the car is driven by someone who is moderately competent.
Don't let anyone else drive your car and the problem becomes a non-issue.


Bill
It has nothing to do with who's operating the car, and everything to do with the pump jockeys and their perception. Like myself, I avoid using any station that has a random diesel pump intermingled with the gas pumps here in NJ. I wont bother unless the station at the very least has an entire lane with a diesel pump or 2 and no gas, but preferably a completely seperate and detached island off by itself. You would be surprised how often they come darting over as soon as you lay a finger on the pump like if you were trying to pump your own gasoline...or worse yet, look at you like you dont know its diesel and about to ruin your car. I wouldnt be surprised if just being a car has a large part of that and they just assume your stupid and incapable like normal cars, despite being diesel and legal to do yourself. I bet the truck guys stand a better chance of being left alone. But yeah, you def stand a pretty good chance of a little hassle like that at stations you dont normally use and like, especially if the pumps are intermingled with the gas pumps.
 

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Don't 13 Passats have the misfuel protection guard built in? The flap won't open with gas nozzles. Also to answer OPs question. Diesel fuel autos don't have vapor recovery systems, so I suspect warranty isn't a problem with fuel caps. I have a green "Diesel Only" Stant locking cap for when I loan my car.

I know the '13 Golfs have it as well.
 

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It has nothing to do with who's operating the car, and everything to do with the pump jockeys and their perception. Like myself, I avoid using any station that has a random diesel pump intermingled with the gas pumps here in NJ. I wont bother unless the station at the very least has an entire lane with a diesel pump or 2 and no gas, but preferably a completely seperate and detached island off by itself. You would be surprised how often they come darting over as soon as you lay a finger on the pump like if you were trying to pump your own gasoline...or worse yet, look at you like you dont know its diesel and about to ruin your car. I wouldnt be surprised if just being a car has a large part of that and they just assume your stupid and incapable like normal cars, despite being diesel and legal to do yourself. I bet the truck guys stand a better chance of being left alone. But yeah, you def stand a pretty good chance of a little hassle like that at stations you dont normally use and like, especially if the pumps are intermingled with the gas pumps.

It is YOUR car. YOU are operating it, not the 'pump jockey'. YOU are the one that is ultimately responsible for everything about YOUR car...... Including when and where YOU fuel up the car, where it goes and who rides in it.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but the pump jockey is only a pump jockey and YOU are the one in charge of your life.

Life is good! Enjoy!

Bill
 

romad

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It is YOUR car. YOU are operating it, not the 'pump jockey'. YOU are the one that is ultimately responsible for everything about YOUR car...... Including when and where YOU fuel up the car, where it goes and who rides in it.

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but the pump jockey is only a pump jockey and YOU are the one in charge of your life.

Life is good! Enjoy!

Bill
Unfortunately, the NJ & OR legislatures have determined that residents of those two states are too stupid to pump their own gas, and have declared that only specially trained and certified attendants may do so. I've said that I'm not a resident of the state and therefore the rule doesn't apply; confuses the heck out of them!
 

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Interesting....my 2013 TDI has no such yellow sticker.
Nope not a yellow sticker but there is a device in the filler neck that will not allow a gasoline nozzel to be placed in the neck.... Only problem is there are idiot stations that use whatever they have, wherever they need it. My best advice is to purchase a locking cap, and you keep the key. 800 miles between fill ups is long enough that you should be able to take care of that chore, along with checking the oil and tires in the process. Just my suggestion.:D
 

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But it IS FOLLOWED, although only by members of NATO. My local fuel (gas) station is not a member... darn it.

Read the sign on the pump... just like grampa did. It is a standard of sorts and it works every time. :D

Bill
Ethanol is a waste of feed stock. It is the most innefficient use of it anyway. Seeing that ethanol takes almost as much dino oil to produce, and kills the gasoline mileage, it makes no sense and is probably a negative by time it is done and used. Another stupid idea being pushed by our un-intelligent government.
 
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As usual, everything butt...



Though not explicitly listed for your car, should fit. Can't open w/o key. Use it full time or when loaniing car as needed. You might buy from a vendor that will accept returns in case the threads are wrong but awfully sure it works based on past postings here.
 

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You can't fix stupid but we keep trying!

My family was ejamakaited that my car is a diesel.

It must have sunk in because both my wife and daughter either called me on the cell or made me watch them fill up the first time.

LOL! I can't believe how long this thread is....
 

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One "preventative" measure would be to standardize pump/nozzle markings and colors. The only current standard is the mil-standard:

Red: Gasoline (lead-replacement), Green: Gasoline (unleaded), Yellow: Diesel, Blue: Kerosene,
Tan, Light Blue or Black: Water (usually labeled)

Perhaps with a few slight modifications they could be adopted:
Red would be for gasoline; Green for Ethanol; Yellow for Diesel (or maybe it would be better to have Yellow for Ethanol, and Green for Diesel); Blue for BioDiesel.

Next, each pump would have the type of fuel in 10"/255mm minimum high white letters.

Physical separation of the pumps might help, no combined pumps.
Along that route, about about different shaped nozzels, to prevent physical insertion?

Round, Oval and triangular come to mind and they can be made such that the other two can't be inserted.
 

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READ THE LABEL ON THE PUMP. MATCH THE LABEL ON THE PUMP TO THE HOSE IN YOUR HAND.
PAY ATTENTION TO THE MATTER AT HAND.
There you go again...spewing common sense!

;)
 

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I only almost misfuel once, and that was at BP, where the gas handles are green and the diesel is black.. Lucky I caught myself when I hit the diesel button five times and no fuel came out. It was then I realized I had the wrong nozzle.

So my point is, your idea is good, but green does not universally mean diesel.

had the EXACT same experience in South carolina a few weeks ago driving to Florida...6am and "almost" blew it....Green was gasoline and black was fuel....no kidding....I consider a fill up to be a very important step in the life of the car.....I stop talking on phone...let car idle down....tell myself its a diesel...check...double check....add the additive....add 1/2 liter of Biodiesel.....look at pump....look at yellow tags in tank....look at pump....pay in advance....then before I hit button for fuel...I check 2-3-4 times before I stick nozzle in tank. Its a time in life when you HAVE to concentrate....since I have 3 gassers as well I dont want to make a mistake with them either. CONCENTRATE.
 
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