Global automakers face electric shock in China

[tikal]

" A key concern for foreign brands, according to one of the people close to GM plus a Volkswagen insider, is that their new EVs are being designed more for American and European markets in mind, with a heavier focus on performance and durability."

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/insight-global-automakers-face-electric-shock-in-china

 

[oilhammer]

"....instead of the normal Chinese mantra of randomly breaking, falling to pieces, and bursting into flames"

 

[turbobrick240]

BYD will become a global automotive juggernaut this decade. They are more or less positioned where Toyota and Honda were circa 1980.

 

[tikal]

BYD will become a global automotive juggernaut this decade. They are more or less positioned where Toyota and Honda were circa 1980.

I presume back in the 70 and 80 Toyota and Honda had, in some circles, an American reputation (deserve-able or not) of "junk" with some derogatory terms attached to it.

Time will tell if companies such as BYD will follow the Japanese successful path of quality control and reliability improvement that ocurred onward from the 80's.

 

[turbobrick240]

I presume back in the 70 and 80 Toyota and Honda had, in some circles, an American reputation (deserve-able or not) of "junk" with some derogatory terms attached to it.

Time will tell if companies such as BYD will follow the Japanese successful path of quality control and reliability improvement that ocurred onward from the 80's.

Yeah, we saw it play out first with the Japanese automakers, then the S. Korean automakers, and now the better Chinese automakers. VW has a tough path ahead with so much of their sales coming from China in the past 15-20 years. At least their pivot to EVs should give them a fighting chance.

 

[oilhammer]

BYD's stuff at the NAIAS was typical of Chinese stuff. Awful fit and finish, inconsistent in many places, and total copycats of someone else's designs. The one lackluster sedan was like someone copied a ~2005 Corolla sedan armed with only satellite images a a broken tape measure. It wasn't as bad as the Geely, but it was pretty bad. Geely was more like "if Harbor Freight sold a car" kind of bad.