German Court Hildesheim: VW cheat = horse-meat lasagna

[TDI2000Zim]

German Courts are furious over VW cheating its costumers. Three German judges said that the fraudulent diesel emision design was the same as selling lasagna with horse-meat instead of beef:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ompared-to-horse-meat-lasagna-by-german-court

You are not alone, Germans feel cheated too.

Now, should VW punish America for being caught red handed here, or should they be contrite and treat ALL diesel costumers right?

 

[FVWVWF]

Just an fyi. Horse meat is much better than beef. Less fat and more protein.

Carry on.

 

[DanB36]

VW punish America? Be contrite? "Treat ALL diesel costumers [sic] right"? What on earth are you talking about? And what does it have to do with the article?

 

[amstel78]

Never had horse meat lasagna before, but I'm willing to try anything once.

 

[Mike_04GolfTDI]

 

[Mark SF]

"Now, should VW punish America for being caught red handed here, or should they be contrite and treat ALL diesel costumers right?"

I have absolutely no idea what you are on about.

 

[kooyajerms]

good horsemeat tastes like the best grass fed beef you've had. Don't connect it to Mr. Ed or My Little Pony.

 

[2015vwgolfdiesel]

video said VW may not sell diesel cars for years?

hmmmmmmmmm

If one takes the "fix" will their cars re-sell at a premium?

 

[amstel78]

good horsemeat tastes like the best grass fed beef you've had. Don't connect it to Mr. Ed or My Little Pony.

Sounds delicious.

 

[armedferret]

Does VW have a bunch of people dressing them in costumes?

 

[turboBear]

IANAL, but ...

This would be really interesting if German law was "common law" as the US/UK, because these cases found against them would be more direct ammo for future cases. As I understand it though German law isn't so each case will need be tried more separately on it's own merits.

 

[oregon_rider]

video said VW may not sell diesel cars for years?
hmmmmmmmmm
If one takes the "fix" will their cars re-sell at a premium?

Nope....

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[TDI2000Zim]

CHINA loves horse meat lasagna, they are keeping VW in the black: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...win-global-sales-crown-as-toyota-growth-slows As long as Chinese buyers love eating VW lasagna, American buyers can go pound sand (or buy GM diesels).

 

[kjclow]

If I were to vote in the limited poll, I guess I would choose option two. VWAG, as a legal entity, should only sell the products that will give them the best chance of making a profit. If that means that the US and Canada will no longer get diesels, then so be it.

 

[Vidgamer]

VW knew what the rules were going in. If they can't make a car to meet the standards, then I guess they shouldn't sell TDIs. Maybe GM has better technology! :-O

 

[2015vwgolfdiesel]

Nope....

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Just checked my 2015 Golf TDI DSG on KBB

Full bore retail value was (APPROX) $1,900 more than I paid for it

However with NADA its' value was not so generous

 

[oregon_rider]

Just checked my 2015 Golf TDI DSG on KBB

Full bore retail value was (APPROX) $1,900 more than I paid for it

However with NADA its' value was not so generous

There are very few sales of 2015 VW TDIs right now - which would make me doubt that there is enough "data" to make the kbb or nada values accurate.

In addition, they cannot suggest behavior and supply/demand after a very, very large "fixed" VWs begin to be 're-marketed' by VW.

My crystal ball would say that 6-12 months from now - when VW is able to resell the repurchased TDIs - there will also be GM and Mazda Diesels available for sale. Supply and choices for diesel vehicles will be high - prices for scandal tainted VW TDIs will be low(er).

 

[kjclow]

Given the options between a new Mazda/GM diesel or a partially fixed VW, I would opt for the non-VW. We still don't know what phase 2 of the fix is going to do.

 

[2015vwgolfdiesel]

There are very few sales of 2015 VW TDIs right now - which would make me doubt that there is enough "data" to make the kbb or nada values accurate.

In addition, they cannot suggest behavior and supply/demand after a very, very large "fixed" VWs begin to be 're-marketed' by VW.
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Most likely you have the better argument.

I am mostly just hoping and wishing

But will (most likely) take the BB ~~ later

for 2 reasons.

The BB hopefully will be faster, and easier in the future

.... and I can see the results of the cars that have had the "fix" and the re-sale prices of those cars

 

[amstel78]

Anyone know where one can get horsemeat lasagna in Manhattan? This thread has gotten my culinary interests piqued.

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[FVWVWF]

Anyone know where one can get horsemeat lasagna in Manhattan? This thread has gotten my culinary interests piqued.

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From what I read on the internets...apparently horse meat is illegal in NY for human consumption and the last horse slaughter house in the US closed in 2007. You may have to travel to Montreal Canada for some.