My thought is geared more towards gen 1. Yes I understand this decree is for gen 2 but it still is a question I dont think there is a good answer too
I understand that, but the point I was trying to make is that the restitution payment was not geared toward increased maintenance costs. We have to bear that burden ourselves, which I think is less than fair. No matter what the long-term cost of increased maintenance due to the fix is, the added cost shouldn't be something the car owner should absorb. VW should step up and do the right thing.
I would be one of those. So far the increased fuel costs are more than compensated by the reduced maintenance costs. It is nice to be able to buy the oil in any Walmart. I told the VW dealer that I would be willing to try them again...in 5 years. What good is a 500,000 mile engine if the emissions systems and turbo are only designed for 120,000 miles? I understand some maintenance cost is necessary to get past 200 thousand miles but when you are talking $2000 or $5000 that is a killer.The gen 2 engines, though, already having the SCR in place, will have a far easier time meeting the "negotiated" compliance levels. Yes, it may increase DEF usage, and yes this may decrease the life of the deNox substrate, but if it is still within acceptable life cycle levels then so be it.
Non-SCR cars have no chance of meeting the NOx compliance levels unless there is some dramatic change in other aspects of the engine performance and fuel consumption. At least it would not appear so, or otherwise they would have already done so instead of a costly buyback program.
Funny, though, that so many CR TDI owners are letting their cars be bought back, and now purchasing vehicles that use more fuel, or are older (often TDIs to boot) that certainly are not going to help with any environmental concerns.
Swap it for used '15 MT. That's what I did. Mine was '12, higher mileage and I had to pay some extra $$$ on top of buyback. But still makes total sense, if u love the car, dynamics, practicality, etc
This is very similar to my views, we're doing the buyback at the end of next year. We've really enjoyed our first diesel, but the terms of the buyback (in our case) are just too good to refuse, and replacing the Passat with another diesel just isn't a good option for us. Turning in a car we've owned for 5 1/2 years with 80K miles for nearly the money we paid for it new doesn't require a whole lot of thought, as opposed to facing the potential maintenance costs on our Gen 2 TDI down the road. I have every confidence that the engine itself would deliver many more trouble-free miles, given proper maintenance, it's the possible costs in repairing the fuel and emissions systems that make it a no-go. So— it's back to a gas car, but we've owned many of those, and it'll be OK.
I'd much prefer to get it "fixed", enjoy the extended warranty, and then get it tuned/remove emissions stuff that'll break (I'm in PA where there's no diesel emissions testing for passenger cars).
It has for me. I was planning to wait until the last minute (~9/2018) to sell the car back, not sure now. As a side note, why wouldn't one wait until the last minute to sell the car back? I guess lots of people dropped the car like a hot potato instead of basically driving it for free as long as possible, but maybe I'm missing something.
That's been my question too. As long as the buyback amount is the same, doesn't it make more sense to keep the car for "free" for another year and a half? The only reasons I can think of are that a lot of the initial buyback rush was people flipping cars, cars with mechanical issues, older (2009-10) cars where people wanted something new, etc. Also some people are overly concerned about totaling the car before they get a chance to sell it back (a bit unrealistically IMHO).
Nope. Still no interest in a buyback on a flawless car. The info just reaffirms that we are making to right choice in keeping it, since no equivalent replacements exist.
.....because that is your sole criterion. No, there is no direct replacement for our Passat TDI, and that is unarguable. But we have other criteria, so the buyback is the correct choice for us.
Are you going to get the fix and pocket the $$, or just keep the car as is and forego the settlement money?
