furnace needed ASAP

Vik F

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appears my old unit ( '91) has crap'd out and I'll be needed a new one. if anyone can share/ provide any info, lmk pls

thx
 
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KID A TDI

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I have a buddy that does heating/furnace work full time. He's extremely good at it and I can see if he would be willing to replace your unit on the side. He's not the cheapest, but he's less expensive than going through any other company for sure.
 

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Vik,
Open a Home Energy Audit if you have time, will cost you $150 + GST.
Then you can get lots of money back for high efficiency furnace. Also opens up can of worms re doing other instulation (high rebates!), AC, etc.

You can only do the audit once per home you own.
 

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DieselDrink said:
Vik,
Open a Home Energy Audit if you have time, will cost you $150 + GST.
Then you can get lots of money back for high efficiency furnace. Also opens up can of worms re doing other instulation (high rebates!), AC, etc.

You can only do the audit once per home you own.
Unfortunately you can only get the rebate on a high-efficiency furnace if you're replacing an operating one. One that has died means no rebate.
 

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Really? That sucks. So if the opportunity arises, your breakdown causes the catalyst to open the audit and upgrade, why would they exclude that? Weird.
 

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Uisge said:
Unfortunately you can only get the rebate on a high-efficiency furnace if you're replacing an operating one. One that has died means no rebate.
This is true, you have to upgrade not replace with the same. Also the audit is $300 with a $150 rebate from the government. Then you need a second audit after the upgrades are complete, this one costs $150.

I am in the process of doing all this for the insulation rebates. First audit is done so if you want any first hand info LMK

As for your furnace Vik, sorry I couldn't help. If you do go high efficency I belive the rebate is about a 1K, minus the $300 for the audits so it's hardly worth it unless you plan to do more

good luck
 
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my mid eff 18yo unit - the heat exchanger cracked.

from what i have been able to gather, a new Hi-eff unit( 94% + ) is covered, grant - 1000, plus 125 plus 115, minus the 350 and 150 audits.

b/c i am w/o a working furnace, the audits are a just a paper work process as they wont make someone wait during the winter for 2wks for an audit ( or so I'm told ). I need to confirm all this.

any one have any links to this info.
 

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http://www.homeenergyontario.ca/stripes_en.asp

info about the Ontario program. 50% of the rebate is provincial the other 50% in Federal

http://www.energuy.ca/ecoenergy/

This is who audited my house. I got an audit in less then a week.

And yes, waiting for an audit is likley worthless for your situation. you'll end you with less then $700 in rebates.

The reason I have done it all is that my renos return the most in rebates. I will get close to $2500 back for insulating my basement and replacing a couple toilets.
 
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that's good to know. They wouldn't retro my 1yr old windows when I asked. As far as know if you rent your hot water tank and upgrade it to a tankless system, you still get the rebate even though you rent, maybe something to look into for an extra rebate. IIRC it's $500
 

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Toby said:
As far as know if you rent your hot water tank and upgrade it to a tankless system, you still get the rebate even though you rent,
Just FYI: I have a PowerStar AE125 on-demand water heater that I couldn't use in my country place (insufficient available power at the electrical entry... had to get an oil-fired H-W heater...:mad: )... so, if anyone's interested...

Yuri.
 

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ymz said:
Just FYI: I have a PowerStar AE125 on-demand water heater that I couldn't use in my country place (insufficient available power at the electrical entry... had to get an oil-fired H-W heater...:mad: )... so, if anyone's interested...

Yuri.
Interested. Please PM me with details. Used or new? Price? Thanks.
 

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Are you still looking ? I have a 75 k btu forced air and 3 years old.
 

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HA HA HA...yeah...I sure hope Vik found something by now...was looking okay for a while, but then this (hopefully) last blast of cold air happened.
 

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lol

yes 2 fridays ago i had a new 75k btu 97% eff 2 stage w/DC motor unit & w/ 8" air cleaner & honeywell 2 stage thermostat installed.

audit to start shortly (within 30 days of new furnace installation due to being red tagged)

rebates to follow
 

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I'm just closing our audit process next week to receive the rebates back. One of the big things we did that they give lots of rebate $$ for is insulation.
 

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Vic, you should have put a geothermal furnace in, I can get a good deal for you. The government has mad rebates, along with hydro having a 25 year $25000 interest free loan, why would you not want to put one in?
 

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goatcheese said:
Vic, you should have put a geothermal furnace in, I can get a good deal for you. The government has mad rebates, along with hydro having a 25 year $25000 interest free loan, why would you not want to put one in?
dont know much about this tech, but dont you have to live ( use ) this tech for many yrs b4 reaping the savings? We're not sure how much longer we'll be staying at this location.

but pls IM more more info wrt this deal you speak of :D
 

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Well, pay back is pretty quick, usually 70-85% savings on you fuel bill. As well you get some potable hot water out of it, more or less maintain the hot water tank when not in use. You calculate your savings into your bill that your paying now, and an interest free loan, and around 7k back from the government, your not long before its paid off and your making money. not to mention the green footprint your going to leave.

I deal with these units everyday, and i would defiantly put one in my house, if I were to stay here as well. Let me know If your interested, as I could probably swing you a pretty decent deal, for future housing.
 

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goatcheese said:
Well, pay back is pretty quick, usually 70-85% savings on you fuel bill. As well you get some potable hot water out of it, more or less maintain the hot water tank when not in use. You calculate your savings into your bill that your paying now, and an interest free loan, and around 7k back from the government, your not long before its paid off and your making money. not to mention the green footprint your going to leave.

I deal with these units everyday, and i would defiantly put one in my house, if I were to stay here as well. Let me know If your interested, as I could probably swing you a pretty decent deal, for future housing.
Does this still require a fair amount of land? Or can the pipes be drilled vertically.

What is the installed cost on a typical 2000 square foot home with forced air?
 

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I was reading up on this a while ago. Pretty cool idea. Yeah, it pays off fairly quickly, but unless things have changed, I thought you need a fair sized property (as stated).

I was reading up that they CAN do vertical pipes for a section of the run, BUT you have to watch out with the water tables...don't think too many municipalities will allow straight down drilling.
 

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http://www.hydro.mb.ca/earthpower/configurations.shtml

Vertical seems to be the best for a subdivided home without a lot of land. It goes deeper, so it may be more efficient and requires less land. But as John stated, may be harder to get approval for? I would think it would be cheaper too as they drill holes for the pipes instead of having to lay them horizonatly, which requires more excavation. But I have absolutely no experience with this, just going by what I read in 5 minutes. Sounds like a really neat concept though.
 

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Believe me, You don't need approval. It's your land, if you want to drill a hole, you just drill it.

Drilling is just more expensive than horizontal trenches.
 

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Believe me, You don't need approval. It's your land, if you want to drill a hole, you just drill it.
Are you kidding?

I thought you need a permit from the Powers That Be even to open the window these days... (And you probably need to hire a licensed and insured Window Opening Contractor to certify that the window was opened according to the current building codes... I'm not even going to mention the Open Window Inspector that needs to sign off on it having been done correctly...)

Yuri.
 
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