fuel nozzle hole lock

[metal_miner]

Dumb question....

On my 2014 the fuel nozzle hole flap (the flap that swings away when one inserts the fill nozzle) automatically locks after a certain time period of inactivity.

I get this for security etc. However, it often locks before I can fully get my card swiped at the pump. I tried the key fob to unlock the doors to no avail. I then have to usually start the car and shut it off to seemingly fake out the car that I just pulled up to the fuel pump.

I'm just wondering if this is normal and I'm just missing something in the owner's manual about this feature and how to circumvent it?

 

[dmarsingill]

That is new to me. I've never seen a car that locks the flap????

Donald

 

[Conrad -JSW]

Are you talking about the filler door on the outside, same color as your car? If so that should only lock when the car's doors are locked. If the doors are unlocked so should the filler door.

 

[metal_miner]

Just to clarify, yes, I do mean the 1/2 dollar sized metal flap that covers the nozzle fill hole. If a certain amount of time passes with the engine off, it will not move for the fuel nozzle. It acts like there is a lock on it. I then have to restart the car, shut it off, reswipe card quickly, and try again.

The filler door (same color as car) works fine.

Needless to say this is very annoying when this happens at a busy fuel station!

I've searched all the fuel door lock and misfueling guard threads the past few months and none have mentioned this so hence my new post. The nearest VW dealer is 3-4 hours drive away; otherwise, I would have went to them.

 

[Matt927]

New one to me....

 

[Kenn JSW]

There's no "lock" on that thing that locks after a certain amount of time. No electrical connections, solenoids, etc. (That could present an interesting source of possible sparks during refueling!)

 

[autoxerwgn]

Yea, there is no "lock" on that. I would think your options are to go to the dealer for them to replace the misfuel guard, or you can try and remove it yourself. Plenty of info out there on how to do that.

 

[metal_miner]

Yep, misfueling guard. I just got back from a 2000 mile trip with no issues.When I got back I fueled up at the usual place and sure enough at the same pump I had issues before, it happened again. Mechanics there must use whatever pump nozzle they have in stock to repair gas or diesel fill nozzles.

 

[afarfalla]

Yep, misfueling guard. I just got back from a 2000 mile trip with no issues.When I got back I fueled up at the usual place and sure enough at the same pump I had issues before, it happened again. Mechanics there must use whatever pump nozzle they have in stock to repair gas or diesel fill nozzles.

I had a 13 Passat, I was low on fuel pulled into a Valero station, the diesel nozzle would not disengage the miss fuel flap, the rug heads were all over the car looking for a lever or button of some kind...I took it back to the dealer and they diagnosed a bad fill neck and ordered a new tank, turns out the Valero station had installed a gasser nozzle on their diesel pump, in NJ you don't pump your own fuel. I also bought the adaptor $11, which allows me to splash mix my B100

 

[Corsair]

Mechanics there must use whatever pump nozzle they have in stock to repair gas or diesel fill nozzles.

I just made a reply in a different post yesterday- my brother ran into this same thing, gasser fuel pump nozzle at an auto diesel pump in Avon Ohio. Evidently, this seems to be more than "once in a blue moon" occurrence.

 

[JSWTDI09]

I just made a reply in a different post yesterday- my brother ran into this same thing, gasser fuel pump nozzle at an auto diesel pump in Avon Ohio. Evidently, this seems to be more than "once in a blue moon" occurrence.

Unfortunately, there is no "standard" for the size that an auto diesel nozzle must be. There is a legal spec for unleaded gasoline nozzles, but not for diesel fuel. Most stations just use the older (bigger) leaded gas sized nozzles for auto diesel, but many stations just use whatever nozzles they happen to have laying around. This is where the problem come up. The smaller unleaded nozzles are not big enough to open the misfueling device (on purpose!!). When this size nozzle is put on a diesel pump (which is legal), you need to figure out another way to open up the misfueling prevention door. VW (and others) sell adapters and a well placed screwdriver would probably also work.

Have Fun!

Don

 

[Buellboy]

My misfueling device recently pulled out the tank fill tube with the fuel pump nozzle. I haven't had time to return my JSW to the dealer to replace. I see no issues with running without the misfueling device and I have the benefit of using the larger truck fill nozzle. Thoughts?

 

[JSWTDI09]

I see no issues with running without the misfueling device and I have the benefit of using the larger truck fill nozzle. Thoughts?

I agree with the first part of this sentence (I do not have the misfueling adapter installed), but the second part is (unfortunately) wrong. The larger "truck" size nozzles are still too big for our cars. They will not fit right even without the misfueling adapter. I wish this was untrue, but it is not.

Have Fun!

Don