Frequency of transmission fluid change in 2006 Jetta TDI

[JManget]

My car is at the dealer right now for a transmission fluid change $900.00 ? Is that really accurate? Anyway, it has been there for the past week. Thery are telling me that they need a special tool for this fluid change and they cannot seem to get one ordered/sent whatever. Anyway my car has about 90,000 miles. The dealer told me that it really should have been chaged at 40k but they did not know that it was supposed to be changed. Is this for real? Or are they just trying to scam me into paying more $$

 

[Drivbiwire]

The dealer told me that it really should have been chaged at 40k but they did not know that it was supposed to be changed.

Well lets see, seing as how the graphs below are what determine the service intervals for your car at the dealership...

First off GET OUT OF THERE!

Secondly YES your car MUST and is required to have the fluid replaced every 40,000 miles! Did you NOT read your owners manual that came with your $25,000 car? If not PLEASE take the time and read it!

Damaging that transmission can result in repairs in excess of $4,000 simply by not replacing the fluid every 40,000 miles. This is NO joking matter and is a very serious requirement for these transmissions!

I have a hunch you also do not use the required VW505.01 oil or VW507.00 engine oil either given your disregard for the other drivetrains MANDATORY servicing requirements...In which case if you have ignored this aspect (engine oil specifications on a PD engine) of maintaining your car you have an additional $3,000 of engine damage do the cam and injection system components!
Reference: http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/500/TSB_17-07-06_Engine_Oil_Volkswagen_Oil_Quality_requirements.pdf

Old cam (40,000 miles of non 505.01 oil used) vs brand new cam side by side...

Ignorance is VERY expensive, disregard for not being familar with maintaining your car is inexcusible.

Before you throw a fit, even Honda, Chevy and EVERY other car maker has transmisison fluid change intervals ranging from 15,000 -30,000 miles, so this is not only common practice but common sense.

Onto the price, $900 is out right robbery! Cost of a fluid and filter are around $160.00

Labor and time $100-$125 and about 1-1.5 hours Maximum.

That being said given the fact you have severly exceeded the fluid change intervals, your transmission will require several short fluid change intervals in order to flush out the wear metals and clutch material. My experience is that it will take two fluid changes at 5,000 mile intervals to get the fluids wear metals back down to where you can resume 40K service intervals. This will/may be your only way to extend the life of the transmission at this point.

It's sad to see cars maintained so poorly due to owner neglect and ignorance...

DB

 

[JManget]

Owner Ignorance

I was relying on the dealer to properly maintain my car. It seems to me if there are posted guidelines in the book, shouldn't the dealer follow them?

 

[sunshine tdi]

could you please let me know which dealer this might be or at least which area in FL you are in.

I am also in FL and my 06 will also need service very soon (20k) and i would like to use another dealer .

Thank you!

 

[KB9KHM]

I just got my '06 Jetta TDI back from the 40K service at the dealership and paid $580.81 for the complete 40K service with DSG fluid/filter change, two extra quarts of 505.01 to store in the trunk, and some touch-up paint. It took only 5 hours from the time I dropped it off until the time I picked it back up. It runs soooo much better now (due to the fuel filter change).

 

[billo14]

Well lets see, seing as how the graphs below are what determine the service intervals for your car at the dealership...


Secondly YES your car MUST and is required to have the fluid replaced every 40,000 miles! Did you NOT read your owners manual that came with your $25,000 car? If not PLEASE take the time and read it!

Damaging that transmission can result in repairs in excess of $4,000 simply by not replacing the fluid every 40,000 miles. This is NO joking matter and is a very serious requirement for these transmissions!


DB

Hi Drivbiwire,

Maybe I'm missing something important, but as I look at the words on the maintenance schedule you posted, the words relating to the automatic transmission are: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, CHECK ATF and ATUOMATIC TRANSMISSION, CHECK FOR LEAKS, both at 40K miles.

I don't read that as a fluid change. And it seems that others on this blog haven't been recommending the automatic transmission fluid be changed as your recommended intervals. Did I miss something? I'm sure going to check my 2005 Jetta owner's manual again. I'm not interesting in slighting necessary recommended maintenance. Thanks.

 

[rdkern]

The 40K is under DSG - which is the trannie DBW is discussing.

 

[billo14]

The 40K is under DSG - which is the trannie DBW is discussing.

But, what is the tranny that JManget has? I didn't see him identify it.

But, regardless ..... I'm most interested in my Tiptronic automatic tranny ..... I want to do right by the maintenance to it, and I'll check my owners manual again and go by it.

I guess the point here might be, the bloggers might be a little more specific on the tranny their questions and recommendations pertain to. I sure got mislead. Thanks for the heads up rdkern.

 

[CWI_TDI]

$289 for labor and parts from trusted tdi vendor in CA...

 

[2004STARWARSTDI]

DSG fluid & filter

Yes, the DSG requires fluid & filter change every 40,000 miles! You should read your manual completely & carefully. $900 is way too much. Plus dealer has not done it before and has no knowledge of how to service DSG. Find a TDI Guru in your area & let him do it or Buy a Bentley, fluid, filter, VagCom, required tools & do it yourself!Drivbiwire I understand your pain because owners just don't READ their owners manual!

 

[scottp]

My 02 passat has 170,000km and it has the origional ATF. VW says it is 'lifetime', but I don't buy it. Id like to replace it, but I'm lazy.

02 passat V6.

What do you think?

Any idea what the correcxt fluid is and where to get it?

 

[Drivbiwire]

Hi Drivbiwire,

Maybe I'm missing something important, but as I look at the words on the maintenance schedule you posted, the words relating to the automatic transmission are: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION, CHECK ATF and ATUOMATIC TRANSMISSION, CHECK FOR LEAKS, both at 40K miles.

I don't read that as a fluid change. And it seems that others on this blog haven't been recommending the automatic transmission fluid be changed as your recommended intervals. Did I miss something? I'm sure going to check my 2005 Jetta owner's manual again. I'm not interesting in slighting necessary recommended maintenance. Thanks.

What transmission is in your car? VW made it very clear whether or not you have a DSG or not. The gievaway is whether you opted for the 5speed or the 6speed.

Did you take the time to read the manual and understand exactly what you purchased when you took ownership of your car? Do people really plunk down $25K and yet have no idea what exactly it is they purchased...!

Read the line that starts with "Direct Shift Transmission (DSG)..." and read from there...

 

[wjdell]

When I bought my 06 - I did not read the manual at the dealer - I just assumed it would use high quality diesel oil. Post # 1 shows 2006 then its a DSG, if in fact its a 2005 with a 5 speed auto its still needs fluid changes - just not as often.

You should buy a Bentley manual - paperback from Amazon only 49.00 ships free.

 

[Windjammer]

Do people really plunk down $25K and yet have no idea what exactly it is they purchased...!

Yes & get ready for more & more.

To the OP: Go get your car now if you already haven't. Here's why.
1. Your dealer is incompetent. They have already confirmed that by telling you they didn't know the fluid change was required at 40k miles.
2. You don't want this dealer to practice a dsg fluid change on your car. They are incompetent remember.
3. $900 is beyond ridiculous. It sounds like they are adding the $120 special hose to an already inflated price.

You'll need to call around & if the service person you talk to doesn't immediately know what the dsg transmission is then move on to the next.

 

[Windjammer]

I was relying on the dealer to properly maintain my car. It seems to me if there are posted guidelines in the book, shouldn't the dealer follow them?

YES YES YES they should & you should walk in, open the manual that came with the car & ask them what it is they don't understand. Please post back here & keep us updated.

 

[monkeytrader]

I have a 2006 with DSG transmission. It was serviced last 20k ago. I now have a leak that I cant identify the source. Is there a way to check the fluid level?

 

[phaser]

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=304965

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[CoolAirVw]

I was relying on the dealer to properly maintain my car. It seems to me if there are posted guidelines in the book, shouldn't the dealer follow them?

OMG! I spewed milk out my nose when I read that!

 

[CoolAirVw]

I have a 2006 with DSG transmission. It was serviced last 20k ago. I now have a leak that I cant identify the source. Is there a way to check the fluid level?

If you got a aftermarket filter then chances are good the filter cap is leaking. The orings that come with aftermarket filters have been known to shrink and leak.

 

[gbpakrz]

$900.00 trans fluid change

I like over kill.. So I have had my trans fluid changed every 35k. The most expensive so far has been at a Chevy Dealer. $386.24 That included the proper fluid, filter, and Temp check as it is filled. OK let's remember that VW is super proud of their stuff and fluids. VW in Phoenix AZ charged me $379.90 for the same service. SO IF you had read your 25k or better car guide it would have made NO reference to what dealership overcharges their customers.

 

[monkeytrader]

Thanks the leak became worse, is there a good alternative to the OEM filter and Oring?

 

[meerschm]

so first, did you verify the leak is around the filter cap?

if so, the cap may be cracked.

or the o ring may be incorrectly installed, even if it is the proper one.

 

[monkeytrader]

Yes the leak is around filter, oil everywhere on the housing. I will double check to see if the filter cap is cracked. Did not notice it yesterday. O ring looked ok but flattened. I'm about 20k over due and hadn't realized it.

Thanks for the help.

 

[monkeytrader]

I noticed this kit as well. Does anyone know if the fluid is adequate?

http://idparts.com/catalog/product_i...roducts_id=941

 

[meerschm]

you can option for the oem fluid for an extra $30 if you are worried.

some folks posted there are different smells with some fluids.

 

[Lornetdi]

06 TDI DSG fluid question

Hi, I I was thinking about using Castrol transmax full synthetic ATF. In my 06 Jetta TDI. I have emailed the company and ask them if it would work and they said it would if it had the 02 e transmission which I'm pretty sure it does. I'm just curious if anyone has used the Castrol brand before in a DSG transmission. any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks
Lorne

 

[jonferns]

Penny wise, dollar foolish. That is the completely incorrect fluid for your DSG. There are many alternatives to the OEM fluid: Pentosin, Febi, Liquimoly, Motul; but they must be appropriate for the DSG, as it is not a traditional automatic transmission


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[1854sailor]

Hi, I I was thinking about using Castrol transmax full synthetic ATF. In my 06 Jetta TDI. I have emailed the company and ask them if it would work and they said it would if it had the 02 e transmission which I'm pretty sure it does. I'm just curious if anyone has used the Castrol brand before in a DSG transmission. any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated thanks
Lorne

The first thing that you need to do is to verify that it is indeed the 02E DSG and not the 09M "Tiptronic" automatic as both were available in '06. The 02E and the 09M use completely different fluids. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[Ol'Rattler]

Yes the leak is around filter, oil everywhere on the housing. I will double check to see if the filter cap is cracked. Did not notice it yesterday. O ring looked ok but flattened. I'm about 20k over due and hadn't realized it.
Thanks for the help.

Most likely the O-Ring is installed wrong. The most common mistake is getting the O-Ring above the groove it belongs in. The O-Ring is installed correctly in the pic.

Another pic:

 

[Ol'Rattler]

I was relying on the dealer to properly maintain my car. It seems to me if there are posted guidelines in the book, shouldn't the dealer follow them?

There's no incentive for them to. If they did that it would make it harder to sell you a new car. From what you posted about the price and the fact they don't even have the service tool, get your car out of there before they have a chance to destroy it.

And yes, for 2006 the DSG comes with a TDI and an automatic comes with a gasser.