Ford Powerstroke Dually 40-50mpg?

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If the 7.3 got 40-50 MPG with a chip I would think alot more people would be driving them.

My friends with the 1999 and up F250's tell me they get 20-22 MPG which I thought was decent for the amount of weight they cart around.
One of them has the newer 6.0 in a crew cab and has chipped it but I've never really asked him what he gets with it. Although the truck will put down a nice strip and moves out quite nicely.:D

My Sprinter get 22-24 MPG weighing in at 6,500 LBS and never being taken over 65 MPH.
 

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I'm not calling your friends liars, but the only people with PowerStrokes who are getting over 20mpg seem to be the ones who get their numbers off of the digital display in the overhead console. Usually when you put pen to paper the results are high teens.

My Sprinter gets the same mileage. I was hoping for more, but it's still better than the 12-13mpg of the Expedition that it replaced.
 
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In all honesty I was quite surprised when they said over 20mpg with their Fords.

It very well could be off a display. They also never give an exact number so who knows.:rolleyes:

Yeah I had hoped for a little more with the Sprinter but I replaced an '88 step van with a 6.2 that was getting 9-10 mpg.
A local carpenter with a lwo roof model in my area says he gets close to 30 with his. I'm not sure what exactly "close to" means though.
 

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We consistently get 15mpg daily & 17mpg hwy. with our Power Stroke. Pen to paper, no readout. Keep in mind that we're not towing and rarely loaded to the gills.

Just got ourselves a super-clean '72 F250 Camper Special that we'll repower with a 4BTA & 5-speed. This combo might just crack that elusive 25 mpg barrier. :cool:
 

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Oil_Burner said:
I'll believe 22mpg out of a Struggle Stroke when I see it. Nobody I know gets better than 14mpg. And I know a few dozen Phord drivers.
We must have a good one. 7.3, one of the last years for it at 2001 model, mated to the automatic. Gets 17mpg all day long, no matter what task you've set before her. Towing, hills, empty, city, highway, fully loaded, bobcat hauling... always the same, 16-17mpg.
 

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Ok, that's more than Ive seen, but not out of the ordinary. I have two friends with 12V Cummins that battle each other over MPG constantly. The best is 26mpg between the two of them. Manual trans, no tailgate, mirrors folded in, 60 mph, etc etc etc.
 

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I have an 2004 6.0 and it will get between 15-17mpg, best ever was 20mpg but i had to try real hard for that. My neighbor has an '08 6.4 twin turbo and he is trying to get ford to buy it back because he's getting 10mpg!
 

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I did get 22 one tank in my PS van. Had a good tail wind for most of the tank. Ended up about 750 miles out of the tank. Most of the time it is in the 18 to 19 range. Its chipped with 4" system. Its also way faster than my TDI.

John

NRU73 said:
In all honesty I was quite surprised when they said over 20mpg with their Fords.

It very well could be off a display. They also never give an exact number so who knows.:rolleyes:

Yeah I had hoped for a little more with the Sprinter but I replaced an '88 step van with a 6.2 that was getting 9-10 mpg.
A local carpenter with a lwo roof model in my area says he gets close to 30 with his. I'm not sure what exactly "close to" means though.
 

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Brian; The best I have ever done with my 04 250 PSD is in the low 20's, just under 22 mpg on a road trip when I kept the speed down. The truck is bone stock. This is consistant with the highest MPG claims of those I know with Super Duty trucks of that vintage. Friends who have sold/traded their 6.0 and purchased the new twin turbo units are reporting lower MPGs than their 6.0's.

The Ford Super Dutys have the areo dymanics of a cinder block with Dumbo elephant ear mirrors sticking out to the side. They sit high, typically have agressive, wide All Terrain tires, etc. The claimed 40 to 50 mpg ain't a gonna happen unless some real tuning magic is done.

With that said, their is a tuner who I have heard of in Delaware who can reprogram from better economy. From what I understandhe is only improving by about 10%+/-. Not too bad, but still not anywhere near 50 MPG.

Tell your friend good luck he he goes that route.
 

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Bob S. said:
The Ford Super Dutys have the areo dymanics of a cinder block with Dumbo elephant ear mirrors sticking out to the side.
Thanks, that made me laugh pretty hard.:D

Well my friend passed up on a few real good TDI deals locally, one even in the same town where his shop is located.

I think, though could be wrong ...but ....I think some people want to hear the impossible happening believing it to be truth.

I showed him my records on fill-ups since 2002. I showed him the records on the Jetta since March 2006.

I thank everyone who's contributed to this thread!

But....

He really wants to believe his son...

so let him PAY at the pumps....:D

yep, I was born at night but not last light...

40-50 mpg in a diesel full sized truck?

yep.:D

I'm due back down on earth.

 

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My brother had a 93 Dodge cummins 2whd with a 5 speed and 4.11 gears and got consistant 22 mpg average with 25 on highway empty, when he was hauling a trailer got 18-19. That was about the best mileage I ever seen on a 1 ton pick up. His 2004.5 4x4 gets about 19-20 with the 6 speed.

From what I have read online the new 07 and above trucks are down in the low teens with mileage no matter what brand you get. They just can't breath with the new emissions on them.

Now for those of you looking to have a truck in the high 30's mpg there is an option. The old chevy p30 delivery vans had a 3.9L Cummins b4t. Its the 5.9 engine with 2 less cylinders. The motor is a direct bolt in into a 70's to 80's chevy half ton with the van motor mounts. They are about 110 hp and move the little half tons around pretty well with the right gearing some guys are getting 37mpg with them.

Rob
 
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UnclesCamino said:
The old chevy p30 delivery vans had a 3.9L Cummins b4t. Its the 5.9 engine with 2 less cylinders. The motor is a direct bolt in into a 70's to 80's chevy half ton with the van motor mounts. They are about 110 hp and move the little half tons around pretty well with the right gearing some guys are getting 37mpg with them.

Rob
That was very interesting Rob, thanks for the tidbit. So you're saying that this configuration could fit into a 1971 GMC too? Possibly?

 

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BrianCT said:
That was very interesting Rob, thanks for the tidbit. So you're saying that this configuration could fit into a 1971 GMC too? Possibly?
Yes should fit into that with out any problem. You might have to fab some motor mounts, I am not sure if they have the same frame design as the later 70's early 80's mounts. If you get the cummins out of one of the Chevy delivery van it will either come with a Turbo 400 auto or a muncie 4 speed with a chevy bellhousing. The engine and transmissions are on Ebay alot for about $1500-2000 with about 100,000 miles. For more info check out the link below for the 4bt swap forum.

http://www.4btswaps.com

Rob
 

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as to new truck mileage - yeah, it's never going to get back to where it used to be w/ current (edit: or future) EPA regs.

the dpf filters added for '07 emissions filters down to almost 2 microns. so, hook up a giant oil filter to your exhaust pipe and let me know how that affects your mileage. :rolleyes:
 
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In short the answer is NO! Im coming from the big diesel world, I just sold my 2006 Cummins. I know alot of people with a wide array of mods on their trucks and the best mileage I have seen or heard of is high 20s. It could be possible to slip into the 30s if you drove like a granny and were using propane. But even then it would be really low 30s. There are alot of people out there claiming insane mpg numbers but they cant come with any proof. In all reality, a dually would be considered as getting good mpg if it were in the mid 20s on the hwy unloaded.
 

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My 2000 2wd 6 speed F-250 gets between 18-20. Always has. Drove from NC to MI and back in two days. Got 18-19 mpg on all 4 tanks of fuel with the cruise set on 75-80 and only one stop between fuelings. That's why the truck is parked most days and the Jetta is my chariot of choice.
 

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2171Jetta said:
. It could be possible to slip into the 30s if you drove like a granny and were using propane.
But what is the point to drive a dually like a granny and not towing anything ?
 

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2171Jetta said:
... It could be possible to slip into the 30s if you drove like a granny and were using propane...
actually, i knew a guy back in savannah that had an '04 F250 that used a lot of propane. his diesel consumption was has high as 36-38mpg, because he is offsetting the diesel with propane. after he calculated the cost of propane and usage and comparing to the [at the time] price of diesel, he actually came out w/ a comparative cost of 26-27 mpg of diesel.

so all that work and effort and he gained about 5 mpg on paper.
 
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2171Jetta said:
There is no point to drive a dually if your not towing anything. I was trying to point out the absurdity of getting that kind of mileage with a Powerstroke dually.
not arguing, just sharing what i've seen w/ adding propane. you gain a little bit after a lot of work. in my mind, i'm not sure if it's worth it.

'course, your point about driving a dually unless you're towing isn't really fair. that would mean that driving any pickup unless you are towing or hauling is pointless, period. my DD is a dually. that's what i have, that's what i drive. i'd like to get an alternative [possibly tdi] DD at some point. but 'til then, my truck isn't "pointless" 'cause i don't tow every time i get behind the wheel. :D

but, since you brought up propane, i thought i'd add to further agree w/ the discussion that getting the kind of mileage from the OP's question is, in fact, totally absurd.
 
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