Ford E350 SD 6.0 diesel

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Just picked up a 2008 Super Duty 6.0 diesel van. 42k miles
OK., OK., its a 6.0, but clean and did I say NO DPF?, ahhh the smell of diesel particulate matter in the morning. Its been well maintained and NO DPF!
Just got some 99 thru 2008 Ford alloy 16. I weighed them this a.m. @ 16.9# !! really! Im blown away. My JSW rims are 24.9 each.
Some misc. clean up and pictures to come.
 

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Once they are "bulletproofed", the 6.0L isn't really that bad of an engine. It just depends on what all has already been done to it and how it was cared for.

I have a former coworker/friend that has a 2004 F250, it was gone through at 35k miles, and now has over 300k and it has power adders since that time to boot. Hasn't missed a beat.

If it is a two pedal, which it does since it is a van, it will of course need the transmission redone/replaced sooner or later, although there are some things you can do to help with those, too. Granted, the E-van's 6.0L is already pretty detuned from the F-truck version, so they are not so hard on things.
 

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Passenger or Cargo? Super jealous. Can't wait to see pics.
NOTE: Picked up 4 like new 16 alloy/caps/lugs (took offs and stored for 12 years. In the shop getting them installed)

The front damage is bumper only. Planning chrome bumper/grille/hid areo headlight conversion

(2) double seats
(2) single seats
(3) whellchair hold area config.'s
all fold up in van

Planning a 5k trip. West coast to Texas/Ohio loop. Lots of sorting out details first.

internet wheel picture for now. Did I say 16.9 lbs each? :D
3 steelies/lug nuts/hub caps 4 sale











Once they are "bulletproofed", the 6.0L isn't really that bad of an engine. It just depends on what all has already been done to it and how it was cared for.

although there are some things you can do to help with those, too. Granted, the E-van's 6.0L is already pretty detuned from the F-truck version, so they are not so hard on things.
From my reading it important to put an inline coolant filter. they apparently have a lot of sediment from the block casting that is the base for a lot of the issues. Head gaskets are an issue if overheated (see above mentioned).

Thanks for the responses. Any real world issues are welcome. This was an auction purchase. Driven home from a Las Vegas auction. It was a handicapped department bus. Seems maintained but sat obviously @ 3k a year.

Got 16.9 mpgs fron Las Vegas to Ca. @ 100* +. Ran like new.
 

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It didn't sit. The low mileage is because they don't rack up miles but they sit and idle (or high idle, depending on configuration) much of the time. Don't let the odometer fool you. It got plenty of use.

We service a bunch of these (mostly gassers since the cost to keep the diesels going was just too much). They should have given them hour meters. And the newer Fords (gas or diesel) do have this data in the scan tool.
 

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One of our vendor reps worked for Navistar when the 6.0 was launched. He says that part (but only part) of the reason that the 6.0 was so trouble prone was that it's sensitive to maintenance intervals and owners were used to the 7.3, which didn't particulary care if you serviced it on time. He did a study of NYC ambulances, where they were completing service based on miles. He calculated that, based on idle time, the ambulances needed oil and a filter every 10 days. They ran continuously, but didn't cover a lot of ground. The city service manager laughed at him and said they'd never service the trucks that often.
 

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Yeah I didn't think about that... It will be fully serviced and gone thru for the usual.
 

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Ford was also forcing Navistar's hand in pinching pennies, thus a lot of less-than-ideal components that were on the very margins of acceptable were used in these.

Ford has a long history of doing that sort of thing.
 

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That was the other part he mentioned. Ford replaced a number of Navistar components (including the EGR system) with their own parts.
 

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CRAP!

I thought the f series 8 bolt was the same as the e series...nope
The installer luckily put them up to the van first... aaaar.

F series 1999 up 8x170
e series 8x6.5

These will go up for sale unfortunately.
Pictures to come

This full set of 16.9 pound beauties are next to brand new. They show signs of only being nutted up once. (Ford flat washer nuts leave dimples). I bought these from the trucks 2nd owner, who got them from the 1st owner. Stored well since taken off. Very good to excellent condition. Only reason for "not perfect" is a few almost invisible minor imperfections. You will only find better if you buy new @ MUCH MORE $!... Maybe... Will not disappoint.

This will ALSO include all 4 caps. I waxed them up in prep for install and found ZERO IMPERFECTIONS. Chrome is ofcourse O.E quality.

TDIclub discount $650 (everything). May be interested in 8x6.5 local trade.
Will be selling ebay also
 

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Remember this: The E-van you have is the same chassis back to 1974. The F-trucks for 8500+ were completely new for 1999, and while the older F-trucks (through 1996 for the half-tons and through 1998 for the 8500+) did have a lot in common with the E-vans, the later ones do not.

Other than one major facelift in 1992, another very minor facelift and a new dash/firewall for 1997 (to accommodate the OHC V8s/V10) and yet another minor facelift towards the end (another new dash and new front fascia), the E-van remained mostly unchanged. Got disc brakes in the back on some models somewhere along the line, the 4.9L got replaced with the 4.2L in '97, etc. but stuff like wheel bearings/hubs/axles and the basic frame arrangement is ancient (in car terms).
 

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Yeah I should've known better on the size. I worked as a Ford tech the mid/late 80's
 

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I didn't say anything because those looked like the Alcoa wheels used on the XLTs from 92-96. I didn't recall that style being used on the 99+
 

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I didn't say anything because those looked like the Alcoa wheels used on the XLTs from 92-96. I didn't recall that style being used on the 99+
No they are 99 up 250 series. 99 Ford went to 8x170mm pattern. My neighbor had an early 2000 something f250 diesel with this type rim.

Nice light rim, makes sense Alcoa made them.

Up for sale
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Made some progress. Getting the new front end conversion done. Thorough triple block & cooling system flush.





 

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Well on the road after major prep. The wife won't drive it as its just too big for her. She's eying a Toyota sierra... Go figure. I put it on ebay today. :(


I have to say it does really drive out like a new van. We took it on a mini trip and it performed flawlessly. Cruised 2k @ 60. The 4 year old could talk from the far rear to his dad up in the driver seat with ease.
 

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Sold on Ebay
 
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