EDC15 part numbers for various years

pkhoury

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After doing some searching on google/here, I can't find a list of EDC15 part numbers for the various years/models of ALH vehicles. Wondering if anyone else has an idea? I know the suffix GN is on a 2003 Golf, and I read somewhere a 2002 Golf might be FD. I suppose if others could report back what their stock ECU is, I could make a list on here for future reference?
 

pkhoury

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So from observation, both on personal vehicles and junkyard vehicles:

2003 Golf TDI: 038 906 012 GN
2002 Golf TDI: 038 906 012 FD
 
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pkhoury

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HAHAHA, nice work @TurboABA . Now I just need to compile a list for 2000 and 2001 (even though I'm more interested in immo3 ATM).
 

pkhoury

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Yes actually - all the EDC15 part numbers for ALHs 2000-2003.
 

benmarks

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2002 = 038906012FD for ALH
2003 = 038906012GN for ALH

So, same as your numbers above. I don't see any others in PartsLink24 for ALH engines.
 

benmarks

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Oh, I thought you were still just asking about Golfs:

Jetta 2000
038906018EB
038906012BD
038906012CP

Jetta 2001
038906018EB
038906012BD
038906012CP

Jetta 2002
038906012FD
038906012GN

Jetta 2003
038906012FD
038906012GN

Beetle 2000
038906018HN
038906018BK
038906012N
038906012CR
038906018BK

Beetle 2001
038906018HN
038906018BK
038906012N
038906012CR
038906018BK

Beetle 2002
038906012FF
038906012GQ

Beetle 2003
038906012FF
038906012GQ
 

pkhoury

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Perfect. THIS is what I was looking for. Thank you again!
 

Matt-98AHU

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The 018 EB should be a 99.5 only ECU. MSA15 instead of EDC15. Different number of pins and size of pins as well.

012 BD and CP are 2000-2001 EDC15 ECUs. My 2001 Golf has a 012 CP in it.

BD and CP will be 2 wire glow plug system.

FD and GN are 4 wire glow plugs for 2002-3. FD is 2002, GN 2003. They're effectively interchangeable, though. Won't notice a real difference between the two.
 

Matt-98AHU

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When I look up the 038 906 018 EB in Partslink under Jetta sedan, it gives the indication of the highest vin number it fits.

9M-X-999000

The 9M is the body style (Jetta sedan in this case). X is the model year (1999) and the final 6 are effectively the highest car serial number that the ECU fits.

The 012 BD says: 9M-Y-000001->9M-1-075840, which indicates it starts in model year 2000 (as indicated by the Y) and goes into model year 2001 (indicated by the 1 as the middle digit), telling you which exact last 6 of the VIN the changeover to the succeeding part number happens.

012 CP has 9M-1-075841, again showing that this is an ECU that began its use in 2001 and showing you the exact last 6 of the VIN where it began being installed in cars but does not show where it stops being used.

012 FD: ->9M-2-999000 indicating this ECU was used for model year 2002 upto the VIN displayed (which is technically going to be the 'last' VIN of that model year).

012 GN: 9M-3-000001->9M-4-111631 indicating the GN suffix ECU was used from the very start of the 2003 model year and actually went into 2004 (Canadian and/or Mexican market?).
 

Matt-98AHU

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Similar pattern emerges with the Beetle.

018 XX ECUs are MSA15, 80 Pin ECUs from before model year 2000.

012 XX ECUs are EDC15 121 pin ECUs from 2000-2003.

That's the easy way to distinguish. Avoid the 018s, look for the 012s.

012 N and CR on the Beetles are 2 wire EDC15. FF and GQ are later 4 wire ECUs. Still 121 pin, just wired different for glow plug recognition, otherwise are functionally the same.

Also, the ECUs don't care if it's immo II or immo III. They just need to have the PIN # matched to the cluster, but they can and will match to either.

Immo generation is determined by the cluster itself and the type of RFID chip in your key to match the generation of immo. So long as the Mk4 ECU is 2000 and later, it will be able to be matched to either generation of immo in the cluster.
 

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There are just too many to list....
I will add that VAG/Bosch is nuts with part numbers on ECUs... many of them seem to be redundant. I think it is some internal way to keep track of something else, like how many, or a specific calibration, or... ????

They've always been like this... even back into the D-jet and L-jet days. You could literally have 10 different L-jet ECUs by part number, and they'd all plug right in to the engine harness and the engine would start right up and run fine.
 

Matt-98AHU

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I will add that VAG/Bosch is nuts with part numbers on ECUs... many of them seem to be redundant. I think it is some internal way to keep track of something else, like how many, or a specific calibration, or... ????

They've always been like this... even back into the D-jet and L-jet days. You could literally have 10 different L-jet ECUs by part number, and they'd all plug right in to the engine harness and the engine would start right up and run fine.
These days, probably more a difference in calibration than anything. When I worked at the dealer, when you read the bulletins on available flash updates, some of the updates technically change the ECU part number as read by the scan tool, of course externally it will still have the same sticker with the original part number on it.
 

pkhoury

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These days, probably more a difference in calibration than anything. When I worked at the dealer, when you read the bulletins on available flash updates, some of the updates technically change the ECU part number as read by the scan tool, of course externally it will still have the same sticker with the original part number on it.
Interesting. Now I'll be sure to check what VCDS says when I try to connect to a cluster before using another program to immo delete it.
 
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