Dynaudio amp swap for VW amp (POS)

[1998993C2S]

jharcourt -
When performing the Plug N Play amp swap........ both multi pin connectors coming from the cars chassis had to be twisted 180 degrees....... and then simply plugged into the new Dyn 3C0 amp.

From the old 1K6 amp to the new Dyn 3C0 amp the connectors are upside-down (180) from each other. Same connectors though....

FWIW ... my VW dub parts counter had alternate ala carte connectors if needed.
I'm in route to the Vater-land.... and if need be, glad to assist.

 

[jdhunt0]

I have the 10 speaker system, but no amp under the seat. I guess I would need the amp, wiring, and all the speakers. Any clue what a total change over would cost?

 

[1998993C2S]

I have the 10 speaker system, but no amp under the seat. I guess I would need the amp, wiring, and all the speakers. Any clue what a total change over would cost?

I'm using the stock VW production speakers as installed when built.
So,,,, with you being simiarily positioned your cost would be the cheap-o amp which is under a $100 and the aftermarket (Dyn) wiring harness at $135 or so. A Saturday in your own garage and Bingo - A Grown Up stereo HiFi system in the Jetta awaits...

No risks taken, nothing gained. - Someone's Granny always said this...

 

[jdhunt0]

I guess the biggest expense is going to be my time then.

I think I may start with the speakers, at least the large ones in the front doors. One of them has a rattle. Will they work with the stock radio for now?

I have the in dash changer with no SAT. Will the above mentions harness work for me? Does it have all connectors already installed?

 

[jharcourt]

multi-connectors for 3C0 035 456

It's true that between the 1K6 and the 3C0 there is a 180 degree flip, but the problem I'm having has to do with the keyways which have completely changed between the 3C0 035 456 (no letter)

and the 3C0 035 456 A-J

 

[maloosheck]

and the 3C0 035 456 A-J

If you look at my picture here: http://furmanka.blogspot.com/2009/12/mk5-dynaudio-gosniki-dynaudio-speakers.html

You will see that the plugs are the same for all the amps: Jetta DSS and EOS Dynaudio. And the same as Passat Dynaudio above.

 

[D-Cell_Mekanick]

I placed my order for one through ECS last night. I needed to order my oil and filter, plus I wanted to get those silver tail lights anyways. So hopefully I will be able to install this amp by the begining of next week. I'm hopping it takes care of the occasional static noise I get out of the right rear speakers as well.

Hope they are still available!

 

[1998993C2S]

Possibly, just possibly the received Naviservice.com wiring harness has a VW Phaeton DYN amp/module connector. Anyway, simple enough to remedy.

 

[klrman]

Possibly, just possibly the received Naviservice.com wiring harness has a VW Phaeton DYN amp/module connector. Anyway, simple enough to remedy.

In that case I might buy a Phaeton to simplify installation

 

[jharcourt]

ok I think I figured this out (and here's a great page I wish I had seen a long time ago http://www.passatplus.de/umbauteile/stecker/stecker4.htm)

Good news is that the pinouts are exactly the same. I've ordered the new plugs.

Where the naviservice cable has 1J0962623, it should be 1J0962623B

Where the Naviservice cable has 1J0962624, it should be 1J0962624A

 

[1998993C2S]

ok I think I figured this out (and here's a great page I wish I had seen a long time ago http://www.passatplus.de/umbauteile/stecker/stecker4.htm)
Good news is that the pinouts are exactly the same.

J, just read this.....YOU ARE A SLEUTH.

So much for UPS overnight..... felt a little old fashioned of a solution of communication w/Poland - but what the hell.

All the best -

 

[jharcourt]

If you look at my picture here: http://furmanka.blogspot.com/2009/12/mk5-dynaudio-gosniki-dynaudio-speakers.html

You will see that the plugs are the same for all the amps: Jetta DSS and EOS Dynaudio. And the same as Passat Dynaudio above.

Yes, but I have a cable for the 3C0-035-456 (with no letter suffix), and it has the old style plug to match the old-style sockets on the 3C0-035-456. All the other versions of the 3C0-035-456 A-J have the newer style socket and cannot use my cable, unless I replace the old plugs with the new ones. Very strange that they changed to the new version of the plug since the pinouts do not change. Maybe they changed 1J0962623 because it was already being used by the older comfort control module? Who knows, but like many running changes at VAG, this was not documented by anyone other than the engineer who modified the design and the sub-contractor that produced the module. The amplifiers in your pictures are both newer production runs of 1K6- and 1Q0-. I had to buy a 1K6 to find this out, and later found a schematic for the no-suffix version with the old sockets. I wanted a ready-made harness from Naviservice to ensure I would not have to redo the installation because of my poor harness-making abilities. But VAG does not make this easy. Anyhow, thanks to your phenomenally well-illustrated how-to blog, changing to Dynaudio in my no-amplifier Jetta is just a matter of following your steps.

 

[Stratmosphere]

Where can I get this amp now? 3C0-035-456-C. Pete

 

[D-Cell_Mekanick]

I ordered mine through ECStuning mine will be here on Monday, I can't wait! Hope they have some left.

 

[klrman]

Where the naviservice cable has 1J0962623, it should be 1J0962623B

Where the Naviservice cable has 1J0962624, it should be 1J0962624A

Is it possible to just trim the the naviservice plug to fit the Dynaudio amp? Looks like a little x-acto cutting would do the trick....

 

[Stratmosphere]

I'll offer $250 for one. Pete

 

[D-Cell_Mekanick]

I'll offer $250 for one. Pete

Run down to your local dealer and see if they can still get one. If they can, I'd buy two or more, then offer them for sale here for a small profit.

 

[jharcourt]

Is it possible to just trim the the naviservice plug to fit the Dynaudio amp? Looks like a little x-acto cutting would do the trick....

That's what Naviservice told me to do. I'd probably lose a finger while I was at it. Seriously though, that would be the fastest solution...

 

[D-Cell_Mekanick]

I just installed my new Dynaudio amp, while I didn't go and play a cd or anything it definitly sounds better and has some thump now! Thanks for the heads up.

 

[D-Cell_Mekanick]

This is officially the best $100 I have spent on a mod! The sound is fantastic, heck if I turn up the volume 1/4 I can't even hear the rattles any more. This sucker is loud and clear now.

 

[AndySRT]

has anyone ran the naviservice wiring harness yet i am intrested in this set up but i am wondering about shipping and ease of using the harness. my cup car does not have a factory amp. I also have the buzzing speaker issue which drives me nuts on my 30 mile trip into work.

 

[jproctor9]

I'm also interested hearing from someone who has used the Naviservice wiring harness. Specifically:

1. How did you route the harness?
2. How did you end up mounting the amp? Under seat? Did you cover it?
3. Was there any coding to be done with VAG-COM or simply plug n' play?

I have amp and harness is on the way (I think) so am looking for any/all advice to simplify install. I realize that I may need to swap connectors or do some work with an X-acto.

Thanks.

 

[tbailey4]

No amp under my seat, Amp purchased from dealer, $89.00. Ordered (and payed for) harness 3 weeks ago, still waiting... Anxious to see if I can make it work. I have a 10 speaker system from the factory. Bass and tweeter in rear door, bass and mid in front door, tweeter in triangle plastic at front of window.
When ordering the cable you need to specify how many speakers. Good luck.

 

[jharcourt]

I've had the harness for a few months (takes a couple of weeks but i ordered by regular mail) and I'm just waiting on the amp to arrive. I've had buzzing too and I noticed it wasn't coming from the drivers or enclosures. It was coming from the inside weather strip where it meets the window glass on the front doors. Should be easy to fix. Can't wait to apply some decent power to these speakers.

 

[jdhunt0]

Keep me updated on the install in cars with out a factory amp. I may try to do this myself. Should I go ahead and get the amp before they run out?

 

[D-Cell_Mekanick]

Keep me updated on the install in cars with out a factory amp. I may try to do this myself. Should I go ahead and get the amp before they run out?

If you plan on ever doing this you better purchase to amp now. If you don't end up doing it you can always sell it.

 

[ARBY]

Curious if something like this would work for a '11 JSW, RNS315?

 

[jdhunt0]

ECS is showing the amp for $11.41 right now. I placed my order.

 

[D-Cell_Mekanick]

I placed another order also.

 

[jdhunt0]

Is a pin out available to use this amp in other applications or does it need the VW head unit?


I would think the price is a mistake and someone will "fix" it soon. It was hard not to order 10 of these, but I'll save some for the rest of you.