DSG service

Wasserpest

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Would you let any average repair shop do the DSG on a 2015 Jetta TDI? Or is this something for dealers and trusted specialist mechanics only?
 

Wasserpest

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Thank you! I don't have vcds, no. I guess the average chrysler/dodge mechanic wouldn't have that either, right?
 

DivineChaos

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Thank you! I don't have vcds, no. I guess the average chrysler/dodge mechanic wouldn't have that either, right?
Not for vcds, no. It's not hard to do yourself. I have an extra funnel kit. Normally 4.2-4.5ish quarts drain out. Just refil with what drains out. I gou a cheap weed sprayer to push the oil in. Did want take any special tools really.
 

AndyBees

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I've changed the ATF on several different VW models. The amount you drain out is about the best way to go in my opinion. There is a YouTube by Corey at IDParts changing the fluid. He basically uses the amount removed method, but does use VCDS.

I suggest that you do some YouTube University searches and watch ...... it is rather simple if you have a level and safe means to do it.
 

Wasserpest

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Not sure I have the expertise/tools to do it myself. Just wondering if there was anything super special about the DSG, you know, different from say a Honda/Toyota/GM. So basically it is mainly about getting the right filter and fluid. Push back same volume that drains out. The whole temperature/laptop/run engine/shift gears (automatic?) thing is a bit scary.
 

DivineChaos

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Not sure I have the expertise/tools to do it myself. Just wondering if there was anything super special about the DSG, you know, different from say a Honda/Toyota/GM. So basically it is mainly about getting the right filter and fluid. Push back same volume that drains out. The whole temperature/laptop/run engine/shift gears (automatic?) thing is a bit scary.
If you add back the same volume, plus a bit for the filter don't really have to worry about the temp thing. Just need some ramps.
Pull the under tray off. Pull the plug and the inner level tube. Go up top.
Pull the airbox assy. Battery and it's tray. Filter cap of the trans. Put the tube and plug back into the trans. And add 4.5 qt of oil through the filter hole. (Takes forever) put the filter back in and reassemble.
You might be a lil over or underful. But .2 of a quart isn't an issue. Need a large Allen and a smaller one. Few torx bits, a 10mm, channellocks, and a larger socket for the trans oil filter
It really isn't hard. As I said, I do have an extra fill tube that's collecting dust.
 

drew_t

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I just did my 2013 Passat for the second time. It‘s not hard to do it yourself, assuming you have some experience working on cars, tools, ramps, and a level place to work. Putting in the new fluid goes much faster if you buy the fitting that some of the VW parts specialists sell that screws into the bottom of the sump - it lets you use a cheap fluid transfer pump from the auto parts store. I used my OBDEleven to monitor the fluid temp; it took maybe five minutes (working in a garage that was essentially at room temperature) to creep up into the range where you are supposed to check the fluid level.

If you’re going to pay to have the job done, I’d be leery of taking it to some “Joe’s Garage” kind of general auto repair place that might not be familiar with DSG’s. At a minimum, have a focused conversation with them and make sure they understand that it isn’t a traditional automatic transmission, that it takes a special type of lubricant that isn’t ATF, and that you’re going to want to see the filter they take out.
 

oilhammer

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There are just too many to list....
Lots (I might even say most, nowadays) have essentially the same basic fill/check procedure for automatic transmissions. So there isn't anything really strange about the 02E DSG that a competent shop would not be familiar with. The filter is nothing really strange, just a top side cartridge style filter, and while it may not be commonplace on a transmission, it is common for many engines. The only thing that sucks is that the placement of it necessitates taking a bunch of stuff out of the way on the CR TDIs. I use a jump pack to keep the car's memory alive while I have the battery disconnected. Again, nothing strange.

And so long as there are no obvious volume leaks, refilling with what you took out is perfectly acceptable. This is normal practice for lots of cars.

The ATF is specific, and there are now quite a few brands available. I'd maybe want to stick with one of the known Euro brands, like Motul or Pentosin or Liquimoly, but there are other "double clutch transmission" oils out there. However, not all DCTs use wet disc clutches like the 02E does.
 

Wasserpest

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Thanks again for your replies DC, Drew & OH! I can purchase a kit at ID Parts or somewhere and provide the parts to the mechanic. I don't have ramps nor a place to work on. Still got about a year or so left until it hits 80k.
 

kjclow

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If you're not going to do it yourself, I'd find a local independent shop and talk to them before setting up the appointment. Make sure they're comfortable with the job. I can't imagine that the Chrysler dealer is going to be any cheaper than a VW dealer.
 
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