DSG or 6M????

dubStrom

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Kansas City Missouri
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2003 A4 Jetta (sold), 2010 JSW (sold), 2013 Passat 6MT traded for 2014 JSW with 6MT-TOTALED in November 2016, 2003 ALH 5MT conversion (sold), wheezing 2015 GSW/DSG and a new 2021 Tacoma Access Cab 4x4 p'up
If you're shifting at 2500 or below you're only using a portion of the engine's available revs. I typically shift at 3000 RPM and run the engine to 4000+ regularly. I still get economy in the mid-40s in my Golf, so it doesn't seem to affect fuel economy. You can trundle along at 1200 RPM if you want, but you don't have to. I do agree that there's no point in going to 5000 RPM in the common rail cars: you're pretty much done at 4500.

If broken in properly these engines like to rev. I've run older 5 speed TDIs for hours at 2800-3000 RPM on the highway and gotten great fuel economy.

My wagon likes to rev even better, as it has a 6000 RPM tune. But that's another story.
I'll try it.
 

Jayg

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Oct 23, 2012
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Anchorage, AK
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'12 Jetta 6MT-VW bought back as a lemon
I currently have a 6MT and I am seriously thnking of trading it in on a DSG. Just so I can get a car with a Roof/Nav/ Goodies.......

At my store we currently have (6) SE ^MT's in stock and (14) SEL Premiums. The more I sell the SELs the more I want one.
Is there a reason that you haven't considered a Jetta? You can get a manual with nav, sunroof etc....

As far as DSG goes, it doesn't have EVERYTHING a manual has. I like 3 pedals and to throw my own gears.

Ferraris with paddles are faster than gated shifters as well but guess what I prefer.
 

VeeDubTDI

Wanderluster, Traveler, TDIClub Enthusiast
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Jul 2, 2000
Location
La Conner, WA
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2018 Tesla Model 3: 217,000 miles
Passat powerband is 1400 - 4000 RPM. Everything is over at 4000 RPMs due to the smaller turbo (and possibly some other things) than the Golf, Jetta, and Sportwagen. Power comes on sooner due to the smaller turbo.
 

hmt

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May 15, 2012
Location
NC
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None
Picked up a '13 Passat TDI SE 6M over over the weekend. Love the car. Hopefully I made a right decision :~). Thanks to all for your suggestions/comments.
 

smoav8r

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May 10, 2000
Location
Weston, FL
TDI
2000 Jetta Man (sold), 2013 Passat TDI 6M
Picked up a '13 Passat TDI SE 6M over over the weekend. Love the car. Hopefully I made a right decision :~). Thanks to all for your suggestions/comments.
You will not regret it unless you do a ton of heavy city driving.
 

Diverb

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Oct 29, 2012
Location
Harrison Twp, MI
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2015 Golf SE 6mt
I'm in the same boat. I want a Passat because of the more comfy seat and it has the fuel gauge & engine temp, but for the 6m I'm forced to get the base model. I could get the Jetta loaded with sun roof, navi, ect in the 6m, but the seat wasn't as comfortable to me.
I'm getting out of a Caddy CTS ( only 22mpg hwy) so I'm pretty use to creature comforts.

Clutch jobs aren't that big of a job, I have a lift in the garage, but after reading about the DSG service at 40k miles and just changing the fluid, I think I'll stick with the manual
 

smoav8r

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Weston, FL
TDI
2000 Jetta Man (sold), 2013 Passat TDI 6M
Clutch jobs aren't that big of a job, I have a lift in the garage, but after reading about the DSG service at 40k miles and just changing the fluid, I think I'll stick with the manual
It will require ineptitude on a massive scale to wear out the clutch in the 6M. My A4 Jetta clutch is still going strong 200K later. These things are to the point where they are a life of the car item if used as designed. Even if it does go, it will still be more economical than PM on the DSG.
 

IndigoBlueWagon

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Aug 16, 2004
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South of Boston
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'97 Passat, '99.5 Golf, '02 Jetta Wagon, '15 GSW
200K is about the useful life of the dual mass flywheel. The clutches last longer. Of course clutch and flywheel failure rates have a lot to do with driver habits, but it's pretty much guaranteed that the flywheel will fail before a properly driven clutch. I got just 200K out of my OE flywheel, but it was given pretty hard use including 100K with a SBC Stage 2 Endurance clutch. We have many customers who have them fail well before 200K. I don't have any reason to believe the 6-speed flywheels will last any longer: DSG flywheels certainly haven't been as durable.
 
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