Does power service help in lubricity for CR TDI?

MAXRPM

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I got 2 CR TDI cars and I'm wondering if i should stick with power service or should i go with ashless twc3 2-stroke oil from wally world? Which one would be better for the high pressure pumps?
 

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Personally, I run Stanadyne diesel lubricity formula in my 2012 that's going on 205k with the original hpfp and injectors (I added a fuel cooler to it as well, cr produces alot of heat, heat is hard on pumps and injectors, and if you do some research, diesel looses alot of it's lubricity above a certain temp, I believe 120 degrees farenheit). I use it in my alh as well. Now if you're in a cold climate, the white bottle of Power Service would probably be a good choice if you're worried about gelling.
 

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So now the question is, if i were to use diesel klean would it have enough lubricity for the CR ? I use ashless oil on my alh, in my area i got mild weather on weather, i use the grey bottle power service
 

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If you use power service, white or silver, that's what's it supposed to do, add lubricity.
2 stroke oil is a common trick with older engines, but unless you have deleted the emissions systems,I would strongly suggest you NOT use 2 stroke oil . Reality is many people who know more than us have formulated the various diesel additives to do what the package says, and using anything else you are just trying to reinvent the wheel on a hunch without education or knowledge.
2 stroke oil might work, it might not harm the emissions systems...but I strongly would suggest IF IT DID, it would be sold saying it would do that....

According to the manufacturers...no additional additives are needed, but most people seem to be happy using them as extra insurance and peace of mind ....
Often the extra things a multi purpose additive will do can have a positive outcome...some have anti gel, or ctane improvers
I always used power service (white) and would occasionally pass a gelled up car during the polar vortex events...likewise I kept a bottle of power service red/911, aka meltdown to dump in if gelling started and I wanted to keep running.
 

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Did you consider Hot Shots EDT? It's reasonable priced and has a number of benefits including lubricating the HPFP.
 

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Im looking at the list to see which other additive I'd be testing, for my CR
 
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If fuel is already geled, you need power service 911 in the red bottle to melt it...
That guy does good vids, but doesn't understand that anti--gel is like a condom, you gotta use it BEFORE.
911 is ONLY used AFTER it gels....
 

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I just saw a video with very much the same additives being texted, guy actually sent to the lab like 5 different additive including a few from this post here,he spent like 5K testing them, and the winner was Opti lub, followed by Archoil,,, Sranadyne was last and Hotshot was next to last, test was for lubricity, cetane and something else.

He said the best bang for the bucks was Archoil, Option lube was the most expensive but better than the others, which it is the opposite to what we get from this guy here testing these additives
 

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I just saw a video with very much the same additives being texted, guy actually sent to the lab like 5 different additive including a few from this post here,he spent like 5K testing them, and the winner was Opti lub, followed by Archoil,,, Sranadyne was last and Hotshot was next to last, test was for lubricity, cetane and something else.

He said the best bang for the bucks was Archoil, Option lube was the most expensive but better than the others, which it is the opposite to what we get from this guy here testing these additives
Link?
 

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Next, look up at what temperature diesel looses lubricity, go monitor fuel temps, and tell me why the common rail cars didn't come with a fuel cooler.
 

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Here it is and pls tell me what you think, this testing is more technical and done in a real lab
 

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Next, look up at what temperature diesel looses lubricity, go monitor fuel temps, and tell me why the common rail cars didn't come with a fuel cooler.
Somehow your CP pump on a CR do not fail overnight but when they do it is catastropic, cost thousands of $, lack of lubricity with the CR,,at least here where i live ULSD was introduced 16 years ago and this is a killer in a long run for pumps, that's why we,are all talking about diesel additive, ill effect on any diesel does not come right away, but it will come with a lot of money to fix.

On his lab test, stannadyne had no lubricity, and that's is not frakanstain test, so i really believe on his results, hot shot being next to last, so next time Archoil would be my choice, where Opti lube being the best but it is way too pricey for me
 
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Somehow your CP pump on a CR do not fail overnight but when they do it is catastropic, cost thousands of $, lack of lubricity with the CR,,at least here where i live ULSD was introduced 16 years ago and this is a killer in a long run for pumps, that's why we,are all talking about diesel additive, ill effect on any diesel does not come right away, but it will come with a lot of money to fix.

On his lab test, stannadyne had no lubricity, and that's is not frakanstain test, so i really believe on his results, hot shot being next to last, so next time Archoil would be my choice, where Opti lube being the best but it is way too pricey for me
I agree about the fuel system. I would like to clarify, I do not use the Stanadyne Lubricity formula for an anti gel- the Lubricity formula isn't advertised as an anti gel, nor did the Lubricity formula get tested unless I missed it. I actually watched that most recent video fatmobile poster a few months ago. I have been using the Hot Shots this winter and will continue to use it in the cold on my personal vehicles, and use the Stanadyne Lubricity formula in the warm months. Bottom line is the ulsd in America just doesn't have great lubricity and I absolutely believe something should be used to substitute it, especially on common rail setups.
 

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Did you consider Hot Shots EDT? It's reasonable priced and has a number of benefits including lubricating the HPFP.
I switched from PowerService to Hotshots last summer... Seems like it might be a bit better - car seemed a little more smooth. Slightly more than PS, but I have no complaints. I'm generally putting in about 80-100 mls per tank.

I tried Archoil in my car over a long US roadtrip at Xmas (8000 km). It's pricey, but if you're doing 60-100 ml in the fuel, there's a definite bump I noticed. It's not something I'd run all the time, but maybe a once or twice a year thing.
 

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" I actually watched that most recent video fatmobile poster a few months ago. "
The video I linked to says it was posted a couple weeks ago.
In this new test/review he took into account some of the comments in his last test
which was posted 5 years ago.
 

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" I actually watched that most recent video fatmobile poster a few months ago. "
The video I linked to says it was posted a couple weeks ago.
In this new test/review he took into account some of the comments in his last test
which was posted 5 years ago.
You know what, you are absolutely right! I clicked that video that other day and thought "oh this is the one I've already seen", but after going back and watching both, it was the older one I had seen.
 
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