DLI Teknik Review

storx

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OK, so i just past 1,000 miles on the new motor mounts so i figured i put up a review...







The way it changes the sound while driving...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yACSjdYoFs

Pro:
1) On first startup there was a slight viberation that was felt in the seat and seen in the dash and such... but after 1000 miles there is now ZERO viberation.. I have a set of dog tags that hang from my rearview mirror that made a ton of noise the very first time i started it... Now they hang completely silent and make ZERO noise....I almost want to say its same viberation as stock mounts when they were NEW....

2) Before the mounts i could ride in 3rd gear and roll into the throttle from 1500rpms and spin the tires on dry pavement at peak boost....Now with the new mounts i have not been able to spin in 3rd yet... tried it multiple times in areas it spun on old mounts...

3) Shifting was smoothened and made Crisp... before the mounts i was chasing an issue with difficulty shifting from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd and adjusted the Sigma Shifter a dozen times with no success... after mounts install the clunky shifting i had before is completely gone...and shifts now like a brand new OEM car...

4) Interested in how it affected my car, i know on diesel truck world just upgrading your motor mounts you can see an increase in spoolup on turbo due to the initial torque of the motor softening takeoff. Diesels build boost faster the more load you put on them in most cases....
Well... i did 5 x 3rd gear pulls the morning of the mount swap and later the same night when temps were cooled off around what the morning pulls i did... i did 5 more pulls in 3rd... not only did i no longer get wheel spin on some pulls anymore... i also averaged 112rpms sooner on peak boost vs old mounts...

5) taking off from a stop is 1000X easier with aggresive clutch engagement now.. before it sometimes tossed the motor around causing take off to not be smooth sometimes causing the car to chop almost...

Cons

1) The drawback i have is there is resonation issue that im working on.. at idle i hear the injectors firing, i hear the pulleys spinning, and i did hear the fuel pump hum also.. but i redid my bracket for the fuel pump and its gone now..

During acceleration i hear resonation of the injectors and pulleys spinning distinctive.. Also i HEAR when the vanes on the turbo open and close. I am talking with the manufacture to possibly come up with a solution to this.. Thinking of mounting a layer of silicone between metal on metal surfaces to limit the area of resonation.

2) The OEM mount is where the OEM fuel pump is mounted. The OEM mount top doesnt move but the new mount top does move with the engine making the mounting of the fuel pump an issue. I had to create a bracket off the mounting bolts that mount the mount to the body and rig up something for the pump to mount to. I origionally zip tied it to the top of the mount not realizing it that it moved... when i turned the key to the on position before starting the motor.. there was this hum heard... it turned out that the fuel pump was huming through the engine mount into the cabin...
 

brnsgrbr

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During acceleration i hear resonation of the injectors and pulleys spinning distinctive.. Also i HEAR when the vanes on the turbo open and close. I am talking with the manufacture to possibly come up with a solution to this.. Thinking of mounting a layer of silicone between metal on metal surfaces to limit the area of resonation.
That's what I suggested on your other thread. That would be great if they can make that a factory designed and supported mod.

Which specific ones are these and how much in US $?


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storx

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That's what I suggested on your other thread. That would be great if they can make that a factory designed and supported mod.

Which specific ones are these and how much in US $?


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as of right now.. i have paid nothing.. cause i am testing.. and they are going to get back with me and send me something to try out..
 

brnsgrbr

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as of right now.. i have paid nothing.. cause i am testing.. and they are going to get back with me and send me something to try out..
Nice. That is wise. Since I and others are hunting for a solid and reliable edifice, this is advantageous for many TDi members and monetarily so for them. I am awaiting responses from them. Hopefully, to our overall liking.
 

storx

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They are def better than dfi or bsh mounts... You don't rattle to death at stop light
 

loudspl

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For left and right mounts for MKVI looks like (2750 + 1850) - 20% since no Swedish tax = 3680 SEK or $554 USD + shipping

MKIV is 2960 SEK or $446 USD

If these last longer than the poly ones, they might be worth it
 

storx

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wouldn't a fluidampr help with the rattle? (assuming you dont already have one)
the amount of viberation at idle.. is on par to stock.. or before i swapped them... the only issue is... the resonation that is carrying from the engine through the mounts into the body....
 

steve05ram360

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"During acceleration i hear resonation of the injectors and pulleys spinning distinctive.. Also i HEAR when the vanes on the turbo open and close. I am talking with the manufacture to possibly come up with a solution to this.. Thinking of mounting a layer of silicone between metal on metal surfaces to limit the area of resonation. "


the amount of viberation at idle.. is on par to stock.. or before i swapped them... the only issue is... the resonation that is carrying from the engine through the mounts into the body....
Silicon meaning polyurethane? maybe start with the hardest (95A??) and see how it works? Any idea if the harmonics are from the internals of the motor or from the ignition event? meaning, would blueprinting the motor help eliminate some vibrations...

on a side note... when I switched oils over to the RP HPS oil, vibrations seemed to drop and the motor spins up easier
 

storx

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its not the fact that i need a hard compound to dampen the noise.. i think its more of a barrier.. a think layer should do.. not looking to reinvent the wheel on this mount.. it works amazingly on dampening the viberation.. just lacks in resonation dampening from the metal on metal design...

Its like if you where in a huge metal building and you banged on the I beam on one side and had a guy stand on the other side.. you can hear the noise through the metal on the other side.. due to it all be connected together for it to travel..

I am thinking a small thin layer.. almost like a gasket would solve the issue..
 

Jeffbucc

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I would think a thin gasket wouldn't hold up well to the torque of the motor on the mounts. In my minds eye I see it slicing through a gasket pretty easily.
 

2bitthugs

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How did that transmission mount work? It looks taller than the stock one. Did you have to modify the wire harness and gutter that runs over top it?
 

storx

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i am sorry, i never did get around to posting on this, What i did was i cut an 10 ply silicone coupling in half and installed the mount with an peace of the silicone between the mating surfaces.
I then bought an 1/32 drill bit and 0.020 safety wire i had laying around from my motorcycle... and i drilled through all the hardware bolts to make sure the use of the silicone layer wouldnt make the hardware come out.

So far nothing.. but then again i daisy chained all the hardware together

It reduced about 80% of the noise i was complaining about, and i see no change in the way the engine drives.. so i think it was a success, I plan to take it apart in the future to inspect the silicone layer for breakdown.

I love them and would buy them again.. i have no viberations at all in the car.. i just have a tad noise from frequencies still but i just crack the drivers window on long drives and i cant hear it at all.
 

storx

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I replaced all...with there mounts...I was told they raise the engine slightly and tranny..so only replacing 1, would put the engine non leveled

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Cookiez

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Instead of opening a new topic.

Still using these Storx?

I need new mounts for my mk4 as my tranny mount is broken again (second time in a year).
 

brnsgrbr

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I recommend them. Especially since the dollar is strong against the Euro. They are pricey but I am done. No more trying this with that and on and on.

Keep in mind that my engine is rebuilt and balanced though. Your engine will sit about an inch lower I believe. Additionally, I have a girdle for the engine that also makes it lower. So that affects my perception about how low it sits.
 

Cookiez

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Sounds good, do you notice any of the high pitch noise or do you run some sort of polybushing or something on the mounts?

The strong dollar isnt that good for me tho :p
 

brnsgrbr

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Sounds good, do you notice any of the high pitch noise or do you run some sort of polybushing or something on the mounts?

The strong dollar isnt that good for me tho :p

No I used a thin rubber like pad. No noise.

After seeing your profile, I guess the exchange rate doesn't help. Lol
 

VR6ix

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Dogbone inserts?

I have these mounts on my car for a couple months. No noise from the transmission, but plenty of engine noise & VNT noise. I'm going to install some sort of rubber shim on the motor side between the frame and the mount... and maybe install an exhaust system with mufflers instead of resonators ;)

One thing I have noticed is there is still movement in the drivetrain. My dogbone mount has soft polyurethane inserts to replace the stock rubber, but at idle there are still noticeable vibrations.

What bushings are you guys using in the dogbone mount, and can you also comment on the vibrations at idle? I have raised my idle speed in VCDS and anything above idle is smooth and not a problem. My fear is installing stiff poly bushings and ruining the comfort of the car. I had an 034 dogbone on the car for a while but an oil leak destroyed the small rubber bushing.

Overall I am very happy with the DLI-Teknik mounts :)
 

MÄDDNESSS

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VR6ix- I have BFI's stage 2 dogbone bushings (the oblong ones that are on the subframe side) with Vibra-Technics cylindrical bushing (the trans side of the mount) I love it. That is only my 1.8t though. If I were you, I'd try that out.
 
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