bboshart
Veteran Member
Keep going with higher mileage and suddenly it starts going up! My value was higher at 160k than 130k for my 2013 Passat.
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uchu
Veteran Member
The damages payment for your 2013 Jetta is $5,500. See Table 2 in the Exhibit 5 document:
https://www.vwcanadasettlement.ca/w...Exhibit-5-Estimated-Settlement-Payments-1.pdf
Armby
Veteran Member
Just don't go too far with the logic of driving it as little as possible. Due to depreciation you would probably pay a lot more for the kms driven in another car than you would in the TDI. This calculation should allow you to drive average miles for free. You can't do that in a new car.
I say should because we don't know because VW has still not given us all the details. Keep those objections about not knowing the detail valuation methodology coming.
uchu
Veteran Member
That's weird. For my 2012 Passat, it goes down quite sharply from 100K to 130K, then almost plateaus between 140K to 200K, then goes down sharply again after 200K.
Armby
Veteran Member
Comparing the value from the site calculator with the values in the pictures from the actual CBB book posted on facebook I would say this calculator is shortchanging me
2013 Golf hatchback Comfortline 6sp with below average Km (74,500 km vs 100,000 average based on 2000 per month)
Calculator on site gives me $15,050.
CBB book has a range of $14,975 to $16,275 which is supposed to be for the average mileage.
Why am I at the low end of the range when my mileage is well below average?
2013 Golf hatchback Comfortline 6sp with below average Km (74,500 km vs 100,000 average based on 2000 per month)
Calculator on site gives me $15,050.
CBB book has a range of $14,975 to $16,275 which is supposed to be for the average mileage.
Why am I at the low end of the range when my mileage is well below average?
Armby
Veteran Member
In the small print that we skipped before getting to the calculator:
"The Vehicle Value Estimator will be available until the claims process begins"
So they are going to take this away from us once the process begins. We will be back to playing blind. We won't see how the mileage ranges are affected by the passage of time. If you get an offer that surprises you you won't have a reference you can use to try to understand why it changed. Hell, with the qualifiers they have placed on this VW could completely change the offer and we wouldn't have anything to argue with.
I know I sound paranoid, but I really have not seen anything in VW behaviour that would make me trust them.
"The Vehicle Value Estimator will be available until the claims process begins"
So they are going to take this away from us once the process begins. We will be back to playing blind. We won't see how the mileage ranges are affected by the passage of time. If you get an offer that surprises you you won't have a reference you can use to try to understand why it changed. Hell, with the qualifiers they have placed on this VW could completely change the offer and we wouldn't have anything to argue with.
I know I sound paranoid, but I really have not seen anything in VW behaviour that would make me trust them.
JohnNS
Veteran Member
Site is asking for user and pass now. So far I've tried
User: ourlawyersgotscrewedbyvwlawuers pass: lololol
User: installingcalculatorcheatdevice pass: whomadethiscrap
Neither worked.
User: ourlawyersgotscrewedbyvwlawuers pass: lololol
User: installingcalculatorcheatdevice pass: whomadethiscrap
Neither worked.
tobianogreg
Veteran Member
Managed to get the calculator to work once but now it either asks for login details or doesn't work at all. The button is greyed out with no link. ??
From what I've seen, I'm still po'ed that we pay more for these vehicles when new but receive less than our US counterparts for buyouts.
From what I've seen, I'm still po'ed that we pay more for these vehicles when new but receive less than our US counterparts for buyouts.
JohnNS
Veteran Member
Less than US even without conversion at that (at least for me). Could have sold it for more back in 2015, could sell it for more now likely.
tobianogreg
Veteran Member
Trying to not think about $ conversion. I bought new in 2013 when the Cdn $ was considerably healthier. Grrrr.
No earlier than the end of April, based on the docs.
Reports are that the calculator is offline because someone at VW/Risepoint realized it was giving $3-4000 more when you put MORE miles on your car...
So any numbers you may have got before, may not be right....
uchu
Veteran Member
Hmmm...weird. I guess some kind of glitch. I didn't see such trend when I plugged some numbers. My values were not too far from what I calculated on my own either. Less than $1,000 difference.
ElectricMayhem
Veteran Member
"The Vehicle Value Estimator is temporarily unavailable due to updates."
Unbelievable, eh? ... so they can code quite elaborate cheating software, but cannot handle a simple formula affected by a bunch of variables. I guess they fired the skilled coders already ...
Armby
Veteran Member
..and if they hadn't made this feeble attempt to put this out this estimator may have been what they used to provide your offers. Nobody would have known there was an issue because there would have been nothing to check against.
We need VW to publish and be bound by the actual algorithm and data to be used. It needs to be part of the agreement that the owners, Class Council and the Judge can assess as to its fairness. It can not just be an be estimator that is temporarily available with a qualifier like:
"Use this estimator before we take it down at the start of the claims process. It may be outright wrong and your offer may be different for various reasons. Refer to the agreement to confirm the details. [And BTW agreement has no details]".
There cannot be an agreement where the basis to determine the pay-out is not known.
Well, however embarrassing this is for them, in my case there can be a deal even with their joke of estimator ... LOL ..., but I understand how others are not so willing.
Honestly, I am past the point of return and I do know they will give me $5100 + minimum what I would get on the depressed market today. So I am being very very conservative, and I know I will get more than that. But even if I didn't, I want this to be done and over with, car off my driveway and insurance policy.
Somewhat along the lines ... the moment I purchased replacement vehicle, my priorities have shifted. Last Nov, I thought I will hold off until I have the cash from VW, but that train left the station long time ago, actually the moment I realized it will take until mid 2017 at best, give or take. Now, give me the tort+whatever vehicle amount minimum matching the current market and I swear, I will not be back in your showroom for long time. I think I am fair to them ... LOL
VPP - Volks Protection Plan? By LGM? I need to do the same next week.
Lucsar
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Apr 22, 2015
- Location
- Ontario
- TDI
- Returned to VW: 2015 Passat Highline DSG EarlyLease Termination
Was at the Canadian International auto show yesterday. I must say the VW section had a fair amount of people browsing looking in, getting into vehicles. Had a nice Alltrack there as well. My vehicle needs have changed as well, so I'll be moving on...
uchu
Veteran Member
I'm still on the fence regarding my next move. The information so far seems to indicate the my Passat will be able to take the fix, at least the step 1 (apparently software only). Hopefully with a good warranty to match. My vehicle has fairly average millage, but because our driving needs have changed, we don't commute as much anymore.
I hope that the March 3rd update regarding the Gen 2 engines fix will bring more info. I will the drive it until at least June next year, when all the pieces fall and see if I have to take the buy back or not.
I hope that the March 3rd update regarding the Gen 2 engines fix will bring more info. I will the drive it until at least June next year, when all the pieces fall and see if I have to take the buy back or not.
tobianogreg
Veteran Member
FYI The Jan. 27th gen 1 "update" provided owners absolutely no information.
chachee
Active member
It looks like the bug back estimator is back up.
I put in the info on my 2012 Jetta comfort line with 144k... it told me 10,800.
Out of curiosity I put a couple other mileages in, and i get more if I put more km on the car. At 165k I get almost 12,000
This buyback is going to be a hot mess
I put in the info on my 2012 Jetta comfort line with 144k... it told me 10,800.
Out of curiosity I put a couple other mileages in, and i get more if I put more km on the car. At 165k I get almost 12,000
This buyback is going to be a hot mess
Ursadorable
Well-known member
Still shows as offline on the main page here.
Interestingly the direct link works though..
Shows mine as 18,528 (plus 5100), which is pretty much what I calculated as well.
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steve1479
Veteran Member
Got the letter in the mail about Phase I available now
Anyone care to elaborate on where it says if we choose to do the recall once settlements begin, we eliminate our rights to buybacks and benefits?
If we intend to do the buyback, is it mandatory we do the recall now then?
Anyone care to elaborate on where it says if we choose to do the recall once settlements begin, we eliminate our rights to buybacks and benefits?
If we intend to do the buyback, is it mandatory we do the recall now then?