Dieselgate, The Canadian Edition

phantom1260

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Location
Brampton, Ontario
TDI
1997 Jetta GL IDI, 2010 Jetta TDI (Sold)
Has anyone been able to schedule an appointment? I called two dealerships and both say they don't have the parts yet for my vehicle.
 

ecode

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Location
Toronto
TDI
Mk6 Wagon
Has anyone been able to schedule an appointment? I called two dealerships and both say they don't have the parts yet for my vehicle.
Talked to my buddy today from a London dealership and they were doing the Gen1 fixes already. No help for the GTA tho.
 

phantom1260

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Location
Brampton, Ontario
TDI
1997 Jetta GL IDI, 2010 Jetta TDI (Sold)
Got an appointment at Martin Grove VW for September 19. Service manager said they have not done one yet and he only wants a specific tech you work on it who's on vacation. He said he doesn't know what the rules are around rusted bolts etc breaking off. When I told him I have 325,000 Kms he wasn't too excited.

In my experience if a rusted bolt breaks or strips during removal for the a recall etc, it's on the dealer to replace whatever they break.

I understand that recall is very knew to them but he didn't seem very knowledgeable although he was being very cautious to get the process right.

It's my first time in dealing with VW for this sort of thing so not sure what to experience.

I also have Lexus IS250 (256,000 Km) and that thing has had more than 10 recalls including a major engine overhaul for carbon build up. Each time the process was very smooth. If they broke anything they just replaced it no fuss.
 

KrisA

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Joined
Mar 4, 2016
Location
Regina, SK
TDI
2010 Golf SportWagen
I'm glad we went for a buyback with trade, my wife's new 1.8 TSI Trendline wagon has been awesome so far!
What do you think of the 5 speed manual? Perhaps my wife's 2015 has something wrong with it but I feel like it's one of the worst shifters I've used. We both love the 6 speed in the TDI as it has short positive throws. The 5 speed is long, clunky and week feeling. I've debated trying the dieselgeek short shifter on it, but have refrained as I'm hoping she trades it for a GTI in a year or two. :cool:

If/when I take the buyback I'm going with the AWD 6 speed just so I can avoid the 5 speed. If you could get the 6 speed with FWD I'd probably save some $ and do that.
 

Smokin_Joe

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Joined
Jun 26, 2011
Location
Surrey BC
TDI
2011 Golf TDI Highline returned for refund
Tried the Calculator at step 11

I tried playing with the mileage and turn in dates with the calculator.. ie 85570 exact kms if submitted Sept 9 2017 had a value of $22110.00 same mileage if turned in Aug 9 2018 had a value of $20100.00...over $2000 less and with the same mileage as today?? Using a projected date of preliminary submission of Nov 8 2017 (our extended warranty runs out Dec 2 2017) we have a total value again of $22110.00 All docs uploaded and waiting for approval. :cool:
 

GMAN100

New member
Joined
Sep 10, 2017
Location
Ontario
TDI
2011 US jetta
New Poster - US built car in Canada

My first post. Purchased my 2011 Jetta as a used car in Canada in 2012. Neither US or CAN call centres would agree on who I should claim through. Both pointed at each other. I discovered US site had been updated from 2016 to now allow Canadian address entry. I selected as location to return vehicle as a near border dealer zip code. It worked.

Submission documents not yet approved. However I have the confirmed buyback amounts and most interestingly through online chat I received confirmation that my US built vehicle, now registered in Canada, was eligible for the US claim. I videoed that chat as a communication record should I need it.

Opinion anyone? Should I stop driving my car to preserve value? Any other questions? Thanks in advance, good luck to all.
 

Smokin_Joe

Veteran Member
Joined
Jun 26, 2011
Location
Surrey BC
TDI
2011 Golf TDI Highline returned for refund
My first post. Purchased my 2011 Jetta as a used car in Canada in 2012. Neither US or CAN call centres would agree on who I should claim through. Both pointed at each other. I discovered US site had been updated from 2016 to now allow Canadian address entry. I selected as location to return vehicle as a near border dealer zip code. It worked.

Submission documents not yet approved. However I have the confirmed buyback amounts and most interestingly through online chat I received confirmation that my US built vehicle, now registered in Canada, was eligible for the US claim. I videoed that chat as a communication record should I need it.

Opinion anyone? Should I stop driving my car to preserve value? Any other questions? Thanks in advance, good luck to all.
Did you stop at step 11 and play with the calculator?
If you don't mind me asking...What is your total payout offer? US funds is fine...
Just curious and mileage if you have it.
I found the value dropped the longer we waited to turn it in without increasing the mileage...
Get rid of it asap because it could self destruct..
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=299854
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=308323

don't drive it further than you have to.
It is a $8000-$10000 repair cdn..at a dealer.
 
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Smokin_Joe

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Location
Surrey BC
TDI
2011 Golf TDI Highline returned for refund
Payout is about 17,200 US, and about 99,000 MILES. Didn't play with the calculator.
Thx
Might want to search this thread someone mentioned researching value breakpoints based on mileage..Can't remember if it was 100,000 or 120,000 thinking kms...you maybe near a break point..or past it
 

dataiv

Veteran Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2005
Location
Ottawa, ON
TDI
2015 Golf Wagon TDI 6MT
I tried playing with the mileage and turn in dates with the calculator.. ie 85570 exact kms if submitted Sept 9 2017 had a value of $22110.00 same mileage if turned in Aug 9 2018 had a value of $20100.00...over $2000 less and with the same mileage as today?? Using a projected date of preliminary submission of Nov 8 2017 (our extended warranty runs out Dec 2 2017) we have a total value again of $22110.00 All docs uploaded and waiting for approval. :cool:

I thought this was what was not supposed to happen. I asked a while ago if I was correct in thinking that if I wait until next summer to turn in, after the time period of my already expired extended warranty runs out, when I get $2K reimbursement for never using it, that I should get the same money for the car.

Now am concerned... should I not bother waiting?

Here is the post in this thread and answer in the next post below: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=5301078#post5301078

Thanks!
 

ecode

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Location
Toronto
TDI
Mk6 Wagon
I thought this was what was not supposed to happen. I asked a while ago if I was correct in thinking that if I wait until next summer to turn in, after the time period of my already expired extended warranty runs out, when I get $2K reimbursement for never using it, that I should get the same money for the car.

Now am concerned... should I not bother waiting?

Here is the post in this thread and answer in the next post below: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=5301078#post5301078

Thanks!
Something is definitely off with the calculator, in my opinion.

I've been on step 11 of the claim for months, and have been tracking the numbers that the calculator spits out when I enter the same mileages (10k, 20k, 30k etc).

What I saw in April and June was an increase in the mileage breakpoints (the mileage where you drop into a lower value) by 4000km.

However, I have yet to see that since.... August/September should have had another 4000km bump.

Funny thing is, the mileage where my car crosses into the 'high mileage' category has steadily increased. It was 200k in February, now it's nearly 240k.

I have to call the lawyers back to discuss.

But hopefully the calculator is just busted.
 

dataiv

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Location
Ottawa, ON
TDI
2015 Golf Wagon TDI 6MT
Something is definitely off with the calculator, in my opinion.

I've been on step 11 of the claim for months, and have been tracking the numbers that the calculator spits out when I enter the same mileages (10k, 20k, 30k etc).

What I saw in April and June was an increase in the mileage breakpoints (the mileage where you drop into a lower value) by 4000km.

However, I have yet to see that since.... August/September should have had another 4000km bump.

Funny thing is, the mileage where my car crosses into the 'high mileage' category has steadily increased. It was 200k in February, now it's nearly 240k.

I have to call the lawyers back to discuss.

But hopefully the calculator is just busted.
Let us know if you find anything out. :)
 

lb71

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Joined
Feb 23, 2017
Location
Toronto
TDI
2013 Jetta TDI Highline Manual w/ Nav
Approved on the 6th, finally added to the settlement website this weekend.
Huh. I can't find anything about that. Do you have a link for that announcement? The portal still says the following for my 2013 Jetta:
An Emissions Modification for your vehicle is not yet approved by regulators. Volkswagen will contact you when there is an update on the status of the Emissions Modification for your vehicle.
 

ecode

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Location
Toronto
TDI
Mk6 Wagon
Huh. I can't find anything about that. Do you have a link for that announcement? The portal still says the following for my 2013 Jetta:
Click the section for the Approved Emissions Modification documentation. It's in there.
 

lb71

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Location
Toronto
TDI
2013 Jetta TDI Highline Manual w/ Nav
I saw that. I was wondering if there was any official announcement from the company or regulator. Thanks
 

tdaight

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Joined
May 1, 2017
Location
Ontario
TDI
Jetta
I'm wondering if anyone has experience with damages to the vehicle when trading in a VW for the full buy back? Someone backed into my car a week ago and I have not yet started the buy back process. Would it make sense to fix the damage beforehand? The damage is cosmetic and is to the front right end of the car and may cost $1000 - 1500 to fix.

Thanks.
 

ecode

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Location
Toronto
TDI
Mk6 Wagon
I'm wondering if anyone has experience with damages to the vehicle when trading in a VW for the full buy back? Someone backed into my car a week ago and I have not yet started the buy back process. Would it make sense to fix the damage beforehand? The damage is cosmetic and is to the front right end of the car and may cost $1000 - 1500 to fix.
Thanks.
No.

NO.

NOOOOOOOO.

Do not fix it. As long as it drives, you are good.

What you do now, is if you know it's 100% not at fault for you - claim the accident, take the cash to fix yourself. Then, proceed with the buyback.

Boom! Two checks.

Profit.
 

PlaneCrazy

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Province of Quebec, Canada
TDI
Gone...
What do you think of the 5 speed manual? Perhaps my wife's 2015 has something wrong with it but I feel like it's one of the worst shifters I've used. We both love the 6 speed in the TDI as it has short positive throws. The 5 speed is long, clunky and week feeling. I've debated trying the dieselgeek short shifter on it, but have refrained as I'm hoping she trades it for a GTI in a year or two. :cool:
If/when I take the buyback I'm going with the AWD 6 speed just so I can avoid the 5 speed. If you could get the 6 speed with FWD I'd probably save some $ and do that.
It does the job. I did prefer the 6-speeds on our TDIs, but would take the 5-speed manual over the automatic any day. I've driven the 6-speed automatic Golf quite extensively (my sister-in-law's), and I didn't much like the shifting, the decreased smoothness nor the increased fuel consumption.

Stock out of the box is good enough for me. The only thing that annoys me some times is that it's clunky going into reverse. The wide ratios took some getting used to at first but now I have no problems with them.
 

Smokin_Joe

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Joined
Jun 26, 2011
Location
Surrey BC
TDI
2011 Golf TDI Highline returned for refund
I thought this was what was not supposed to happen. I asked a while ago if I was correct in thinking that if I wait until next summer to turn in, after the time period of my already expired extended warranty runs out, when I get $2K reimbursement for never using it, that I should get the same money for the car.

Now am concerned... should I not bother waiting?

Here is the post in this thread and answer in the next post below: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=5301078#post5301078

Thanks!
I didn't test the calculator very much..
Left the mileage at 85500 and played with the dates Aug 2018 yielded $2000 less than November 8 2017...{ with the same mileage}.
I never changed the mileage and estimated what it would be in November just entered actual mileage and said we average 1500 km a month.
I never read anything about a special way to use the calculator...like change the monthly mileage to 0.0
I read a little of your post and if you have certificates that will yield you $2000 if you wait till May 2018...
IMO Life is a gamble.
Wait and hope for the best.
Keep your mileage down.
Good Luck
 

Smokin_Joe

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Surrey BC
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2011 Golf TDI Highline returned for refund
Wow
All but 1 of the Docs were approved.
My new Brother Multi purpose fax/printer/scanner, which I bought just so I could scan a legal size document, was set for letter...DOH!
Scanned, double checked and uploaded.
With the speed the rest was done will probably be approved by tomorrow:)
Check marks all green waiting for offer
 
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ecode

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Toronto
TDI
Mk6 Wagon
Something is definitely off with the calculator, in my opinion.
I've been on step 11 of the claim for months, and have been tracking the numbers that the calculator spits out when I enter the same mileages (10k, 20k, 30k etc).
What I saw in April and June was an increase in the mileage breakpoints (the mileage where you drop into a lower value) by 4000km.
However, I have yet to see that since.... August/September should have had another 4000km bump.
Funny thing is, the mileage where my car crosses into the 'high mileage' category has steadily increased. It was 200k in February, now it's nearly 240k.
I have to call the lawyers back to discuss.
But hopefully the calculator is just busted.
Let us know if you find anything out. :)
Okay, so here is what I found.

I set my current mileage to 91999, and monthly mileage 1. Then changed the buyback date to October 1st. The value that it spit out is $21,500.

If I keep the mileage @ 92,000 and change the buyback to this month, the value drops by $1500.

So, it does look like the calculator takes the month into account and gives us a bump. But if you are going to play with your numbers in the calculator, you need to keep the month in mind, and the fact that the calculator takes the months past and the monthly mileage value into account (multiplying them).
 

dataiv

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Location
Ottawa, ON
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2015 Golf Wagon TDI 6MT
Okay, so here is what I found.

I set my current mileage to 91999, and monthly mileage 1. Then changed the buyback date to October 1st. The value that it spit out is $21,500.

If I keep the mileage @ 92,000 and change the buyback to this month, the value drops by $1500.

So, it does look like the calculator takes the month into account and gives us a bump. But if you are going to play with your numbers in the calculator, you need to keep the month in mind, and the fact that the calculator takes the months past and the monthly mileage value into account (multiplying them).
Okay, so if I stick to the middle range distance of 24k km/year, and do the buy back one year from now, it should be the same value as if I returned it now? (i.e. return next August at 170k km instead of now at 150 k km should be same value?) as you thought earlier, or is that different now?

I guess I should start the process and stop at the same step so I can play with the calculator, but still looking for your opinion since you are paused at that step anyway.
 

ecode

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Toronto
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Mk6 Wagon
Okay, so if I stick to the middle range distance of 24k km/year, and do the buy back one year from now, it should be the same value as if I returned it now? (i.e. return next August at 170k km instead of now at 150 k km should be same value?) as you thought earlier, or is that different now?

I guess I should start the process and stop at the same step so I can play with the calculator, but still looking for your opinion since you are paused at that step anyway.
It does look like there somewhere in the range of 2000km per month allowance... but if I were you I'd check the calculator a lot between now and your turn in to be safe.
 

tobianogreg

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Sep 24, 2015
Location
Kamloops BC Canada
TDI
2013 Jetta returned
Got a line on a 2016 Audi Q5 TDI Technic w/ 26000 km on the clock. Asking $48,900. About all I know at this point.

Any advice on this vehicle? I haven't been following the 3.0 fix/settlement at all. I'm guessing the impacts of any potential fix are unknown at this time.

Thanks for any replies.
 
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