"Diesel Fuel Only" Sticker Recall (20R9)

[Autobahnner]

First poster, long time lurker. Great forum, tons of useful info. I have already learned a lot, thanks for you guys. I drive more as a result . My JSW was in the shop today for 10K service when this VW recall came out and they applied it right away. I thought I'd share how it looks. Like an ugly construction zone. Gone my nice green Diesel Fuel Only sticker

Where's the blinking lights? I think it would be much cooler. Maybe a voice recording in multiple languages would be great, too!

 

[cd_booth]

where's the blinking lights? I think it would be much cooler. Maybe a voice recording in multiple languages would be great, too!

Nicht gesetzt benzin in diesem auto!

 

[Niner]

More than likely, I suspect this is an agreement between NHTSA and VW, to put an end to the claims of misfueling with gasoline in a diesel and wrecking the HPFP.... Not that VW had a leg to stand on in the first place about misfueling causes in the first place.... if this truly was as pervasive a problem as Vw claims for wrecking HPFP's, VW would have immediately been installing these on all diesels starting back in 2009.

I am of the opinion that yellow is the standard color for diesel fuel in the USA if stored in tanks, and that VW should mandate that all TDI's get a bright yellow fuel cap that says "Diesel Fuel Only". Stickers can fall off, peel off, fail, what ever, but a cap is on the car for good, for the life of the car.

 

[Got Haggis?]

I think they should have added at least 4 more stickers, just to be clear

 

[Autobahnner]

Nicht gesetzt benzin in diesem auto!

Danke schön!

 

[xtu1963]

I just had this done on my 2011 Jetta, though I haven't looked at it yet because I have another 400 miles to go on this tank of gas...

The dealer said they are doing it because VW of America was covering the problem if you filled it with gas and then drove until it died. VW HQ didn't want to cover it at all. BTW, if you filled it with gas and didn't start the car and had it towed to them, they claimed they wouldn't cover it.

None of this sounds right.

 

[elitegunslinger]

I think they should have added at least 4 more stickers, just to be clear

 

[IFRCFI]

I have another 400 miles to go on this tank of gas...

This made me laugh.....!

 

[KraftwerkB6]

Not going to be negative and call out anything. Can't believe there are 7 pages on this but there are a lot of misinformation or jumping to conclusions.

The stickers are there for misfueling only. To help people who buy a diesel to remind them that it is a diesel at the pump and do not put gas in it. VW does not want to pay for any more misfuels and paying.for full fuel systems.
That's it. Sorry dudes.
but people buy a $30k car and know they bought a diesel and still fill up with gas and assume its VWs fault. If youe dumb enough to put gas in it, you should pay for it.
Haters going to hate. But that's it. Thread needs a chill pill.

 

[Onefast66nova]

Well yellow handles here in the Indy area are for E-85 but there is no standard locally. I have seen yellow handle diesel as well. Normally diesel is green but I always check and double check and never go off of color alone.

 

[detroitmike]

I just had this done on my 2011 Jetta, though I haven't looked at it yet because I have another 400 miles to go on this tank of gas...

The dealer said they are doing it because VW of America was covering the problem if you filled it with gas and then drove until it died. VW HQ didn't want to cover it at all. BTW, if you filled it with gas and didn't start the car and had it towed to them, they claimed they wouldn't cover it.

None of this sounds right.

This is why they needed the idiotic stickers. Just in case you were wondering.

 

[nikhsub1]

Not going to be negative and call out anything. Can't believe there are 7 pages on this but there are a lot of misinformation or jumping to conclusions.

The stickers are there for misfueling only. To help people who buy a diesel to remind them that it is a diesel at the pump and do not put gas in it. VW does not want to pay for any more misfuels and paying.for full fuel systems.
That's it. Sorry dudes.
but people buy a $30k car and know they bought a diesel and still fill up with gas and assume its VWs fault. If youe dumb enough to put gas in it, you should pay for it.
Haters going to hate. But that's it. Thread needs a chill pill.

So maybe you can point out the 'misinformation' you speak of? Do you work for VWoA? If you don't how do you have any more knowledge about this than any of us? This whole thing seems fishy to me - there have been enough HPFP failures to raise eyebrows yet VW has said NOTHING. They go from denying almost every failure to then even covering misfueling with gasoline. So the first step at dealing with this is stickers? OK... Call me crazy but it seems weird. I hope they actually do something to fix the problem rather than put stickers on the cars.

 

[acrossthepond]

Where's the blinking lights? I think it would be much cooler. Maybe a voice recording in multiple languages would be great, too!

There is an aftermarket unit available here that does that very thing.
Small box that is triggered by a light sensor when the fuel flap is opened.

It then barks out 'WARNING this vehicle is fuelled by diesel fuel only' three times before switching off.
It is loud enough I would imagine for everyone on the forecourt to hear ( & think what an idiot

)

 

[v1k1ng01]

I'm on the list for this recall, and just had my car down to the dealer yesterday. I live in Germany however, the the dealer did not put the stickers on my car. I’m guess that this is a American specific recall???

 

[nikhsub1]

I'm on the list for this recall, and just had my car down to the dealer yesterday. I live in Germany however, the the dealer did not put the stickers on my car. I’m guess that this is a American specific recall???

Yeah it must be that only Americans misfuel their car More facts pointing to this being utter BS.

 

[VolksDudeTDI]

really?? Someone had to call this "Sticker-gate" ?? It's only a sticker....come on...

 

[I am CDN Josh]

Umm, its THREE stickers!!!!

I love watching the asinine things people get bent out of shape over.

 

[VeeDubTDI]

So maybe you can point out the 'misinformation' you speak of? Do you work for VWoA? If you don't how do you have any more knowledge about this than any of us? This whole thing seems fishy to me - there have been enough HPFP failures to raise eyebrows yet VW has said NOTHING.

Yes he does! I believe, if I remember correctly, that he is a service technician.

 

[specsalot]

Gee - What if one of the VW tech's mistakenly installs these stickers on a gasser?

I think the Stickers will be part of an undocumented program that provides everyone with free HPFP's replacement up until 150,000 km (VW's life cycle per ISO 14K). After that you lose.

 

[Plus 3 Golfer]

I think the Stickers will be part of an undocumented program that provides everyone with free HPFP's replacement up until 150,000 km (VW's life cycle per ISO 14K). After that you lose.

I think we are already in that program for original owners (and maybe for a longer period). Precedence has already been set with the member with 142k miles at HPFP failure with VW covering under good will. But for second owners and for those not aware of the issue and who fail to complain, they'll likely lose.

It behoves VW to keep the issue "quiet" by fixing failures as they occur and to continue to draw out the NHTSA EA. Also, by fixing the failures, there is virtually no basis for a class action suit. When the fleet has aged to an average of say 100-150k miles, there will likely be more second+ owners than original owners. A failure will likely be looked at by the second owner as part of the risk of buying a used vehicle.

The 2009 fleet which has the less robust pumps than later MYs is already in it's fourth year of operation. Unless VW loses the EA battle to NHTSA, in several more years (other than on TDICLUB) the HPFP issue will likely be forgotten.

 

[FlyTDI Guy]

Which in my area is E85...

Yet, Yellow is for Diesel Fuel tanks...

Why is is so hard for standards to be set and followed.

and to make matters worse... I just watched a Shell advertisement touting Ethanol and it showed a guy using a green pump and handle. Go figure...

 

[dubidoobs]

YELLOW sticker must mean YELLOW pump nozzle. Right?

most diesel pumps I've seen (mostly in NJ) are green, which match the sticker...even with the bold print, it seems like it's more likely some knucklehead not paying attention foir even a sec will pump gas into it...

 

[KraftwerkB6]

So maybe you can point out the 'misinformation' you speak of? Do you work for VWoA? If you don't how do you have any more knowledge about this than any of us? This whole thing seems fishy to me - there have been enough HPFP failures to raise eyebrows yet VW has said NOTHING. They go from denying almost every failure to then even covering misfueling with gasoline. So the first step at dealing with this is stickers? OK... Call me crazy but it seems weird. I hope they actually do something to fix the problem rather than put stickers on the cars.

The only misinformation is the customer not registering they own a diesel and put gas in it when they are at the pump. Idk if vw has really be denying all the failures. every failure i have seen here at work has either been from a misfuel or a fuel issue be it a componet failed or lack of fuel pressure to cause issues, each one though has been warranty or good-will or some 50/50 payment ( parts or labor). Yes its kinda crummy that the HPFP can not take anythign else then diesel and if some thing gets into the system besides that it causes issues. Should be a little more robust IMO. this isnt a HPFP fix, its to make the customer aware that they drive a diesel, and that when they are at the pump they need to put diesel in it because vw does not want to pay for misfuels anymore. its really just that simple.
i regret posting on this thread but after reading so much hate, i almost felt obligated to say some thing.

 

[KraftwerkB6]

Gee - What if one of the VW tech's mistakenly installs these stickers on a gasser?

not going to say that would never happen because i guess it could.
but it would be very hard to do that. since its all VIN specific and id hope some one would notice the lack of "diesel" written on the cap before the stickers would go on.

 

[Ace Deprave]

I just received the sticker pack in the mail, along with instructions on how to affix them. Has anyone else had them delivered this way, or has it only been through the dealership? I just bought my Passat at the end of May.

 

[nikhsub1]

i regret posting on this thread but after reading so much hate, i almost felt obligated to say some thing.

I don't know why you feel that way... I am just totally frustrated with VW over the whole HPFP thing and I have never even had a problem! The more info the better, but as you said the sticker is to only alert people they have a diesel, I think all of us know that? I will stop my conspiracy theories for now since it seems to be so upsetting to some... All I can say is that I hope more is done or said by VW regarding this.

 

[cd_booth]

I just received the sticker pack in the mail, along with instructions on how to affix them. Has anyone else had them delivered this way, or has it only been through the dealership? I just bought my Passat at the end of May.

My only guess is that if VW shows you haven't been back to your dealer since purchasing the vehicle then they will mail you the stickers.

Have you back been since buying the vehicle in May?

 

[kjclow]

Maybe it has something to do with your distance to the dealer.

 

[veedubfreak]

One thing I have wondered is, how exactly does gasoline kill a fuel pump anyway? I understand why putting gas in a diesel is bad, due to precombustion and blowing up the actual motor, but it makes no sense to me how it hurts the fuel pump.

 

[tditom]

One thing I have wondered is, how exactly does gasoline kill a fuel pump anyway? I understand why putting gas in a diesel is bad, due to precombustion and blowing up the actual motor, but it makes no sense to me how it hurts the fuel pump.

Tremendous pressures developed by the hpfp require very close tolerance components. Boundary lubrication for these moving parts is provided by the fuel. Gasoline does not have adequate lubricity, so the components wear out very quickly.