Didn't see this coming - EPA shift

dieseldonato

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saw a video this week Guy saying new diesels are sucking the DEF at 2-3 times the rate of older generations, That will hinter prospects of new TDI's for us
What diesels in particular? This hasn't been my experience, with heavy trucks or equipment.
 

Bradm

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saw a video this week Guy saying new diesels are sucking the DEF at 2-3 times the rate of older generations, That will hinter prospects of new TDI's for us
Wait, there’s prospects of new tdi’s?
LOL
 

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jerryfreak

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Stop with the coal-fired argument. Coal is nowhere near the major provider of electrical power in the US, and in some regions there's little to no coal use at all. The official numbers for 2022 is 19.5% of all electricity came from coal, and that number drops every year.
ok how about "60% non-renewable", does that work better for you?
 

turbobrick240

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Yup, better stock up on coal, we've only got about 5 billion years of good sunlight left. Honestly, I'd be surprised if humanity exists in 20,000 years.
 

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I hate the coal rollers living in a big city they suck. I understand if you live in the country somewhere and want to roll coal, but when I'm jogging next to the road and get blasted by smoke its not so COAL, hah. pun intended
 

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I hate the coal rollers living in a big city they suck. I understand if you live in the country somewhere and want to roll coal, but when I'm jogging next to the road and get blasted by smoke its not so COAL, hah. pun intended
Doesn't matter where it is, it's bad press. It used to be really bad around here. Idk if it's the mentality, cost, or just better technology that lead to it dropping off. Sure you get that stupid kid who's parents bought them an old idi ford or second gen cummins that thinks it's cool. Still see a bunch of older vw idi and tdi that smoke like trains. But it's not near as bad as it was 10 years ago. Even the cops are pretty quick to jump on the kids/idiots about excessive smoke. Which is a turn for the good imo.
 

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I think with the common rail diesels it's much harder to roll coal. I used to be able to do it in my beetle but don't think I have with the JSW and never tried with my ram.
 

dieseldonato

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I think with the common rail diesels it's much harder to roll coal. I used to be able to do it in my beetle but don't think I have with the JSW and never tried with my ram.
Just as easy to do, actually easier really with the programming. Toss a set of big nozzles at one and don't do anything with the tune, or don't upgrade the turbo. I just don't really think people are into turning up their diesels like they once were.
 

turbobrick240

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Not much need when the newer diesel trucks are making 400-500 HP right off the factory line.
 

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There are just too many to list....
Except when they don't. Sadly, the need for deletes are still there, and often the change in software ends up with some smoke although it isn't "necessary".
 

dieseldonato

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Not much need when the newer diesel trucks are making 400-500 HP right off the factory line.
haven't been impressed with any of the new trucks I've been in, and more then a few times I've been greatly disappointed with the claims of high hp from the factory. Heck the last new dodge 5500 cummins we got is so bad you don't dare pull out in heavy traffic with an empty truck, let alone if you have a load on it.
 

turbobrick240

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A little puff of smoke here and there from a deleted commonrail is a far cry from clouds of coal. You can make them spew soot if that's your goal, of course.
 

dieseldonato

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Defiantly not following your logic. Higher factory hp, is your claim to not seeing the smoke bellowing idiots. What dies that have to do with a little puff from a deleted common rail?
 

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RabbitGTI

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When I was a kid, the air was yellow and you could taste it. Nixon started the EPA to address that and other problems. The improvements in air and water quality are astounding. Of course that was when we had a real Republican party. This post is not political, it is a fact.
 

BeauDaugherty

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This shift by the EPA doesn't mean they're completely looking away from emissions devices; it seems like they're just going back to the way things were handled before 2020. They're not making it the top issue to chase after anymore. Personally, I think this could really shake things up for the car industry, especially for folks who make, sell, or use those extra parts that change how much pollution a car puts out.
 
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