Didn't see this coming - EPA shift

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I hope that isn’t an omen that Michigan gets mentioned in the same sentence as California regarding compliance. Nice that they realized the VW wasn’t that bad.
 

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Not surprising with all the talk about removing the power of the EPA or dismantling altogether. They're looking for a way to retain their jobs. Now if only someone would curb CARB!
 

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It's a government agency, not a "political" one...
Oh, I geuss I'm clear now

Government agencies would/could never be a political one.

Even those with politically driven agendas... as just witnessed by the censored multiple ligit post.
 

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Oh, I geuss I'm clear now

Government agencies would/could never be a political one.

Even those with politically driven agendas... as just witnessed by the censored multiple ligit post.
You're the one who introduced politics into the discussion. "The EPA historically has been about as trustworthy as the present administration... oh thats right they are." Please stay on topic.
 

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You're the one who introduced politics into the discussion. "The EPA historically has been about as trustworthy as the present administration... oh thats right they are." Please stay on topic.
Even if certain agencies could be "bent" towards the views of whatever administration is in power, said agencies will still be enforcing rules enacted regardless. Of course, priorities shift for various reasons. Like, I somehow doubt the FCC, FRA, DOT, etc would be enforcing laws substantially different if administration X was in power vs administration Y.

But yeah, I agree - if we want to talk politics, that's what PMs are for, not a public forum.
 

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In retrospect I dont see how politics we're pulled from simply stating the epa has pulled these shenanigans before backed loosely with past example, or is that considered politics?

So back to the topic
 

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Posts with political overtones have been deleted.
I’ll respect your right and power to remove remarks as you see fit. But I will contend and point out that my remark you deleted had no political overtone. None of my remarks do, on this forum or in casual conversation. It was strictly my view of governmental action in general.
As far politics and government go, I doubt you would find anything I’ve said that could be considered anything other than neutral or vague, as far as political tones go. If you would have said governmental, I would fit that description.
No offense taken, Just wanted to be clear that I spoke of government not politics. No offense meant either, after all, you are a self proclaimed curmudgeon. I can respect that 😉
 

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Still not a priority....................

Yeah, I saw a couple more news stories of tuners and shops getting popped just days after the Drive article about it being de-prioritized going forward. Had to assume there were investigations they were already in the middle of and would be moving forward with them.

Plus, I believe the shift away from targeting the aftermarket so heavily may not begin until next year. Whatever investigations they were still working on they will likely see through in the meantime.
 

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In retrospect I dont see how politics we're pulled from simply stating the epa has pulled these shenanigans before backed loosely with past example, or is that considered politics?

So back to the topic
well.. it might have to do with my comment which did bring politics in lol. it was fairly lengthy, while i didnt name/attack any specific political parties i pretty clearly criticized the entire political system and how theyre handling "climate change."

Yeah, I saw a couple more news stories of tuners and shops getting popped just days after the Drive article about it being de-prioritized going forward. Had to assume there were investigations they were already in the middle of and would be moving forward with them.

Plus, I believe the shift away from targeting the aftermarket so heavily may not begin until next year. Whatever investigations they were still working on they will likely see through in the meantime.
yeah i agree, whatever they had already open was likely going to just run it's course. however i wouldn't be surprised if theyre just saying they are shifting focus in the hope that more deletes pop up which they could they pursue
 

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"No longer a top priority" doesn't mean "not a priority" or "not at all".
Exactly, they won't escalate it comparatively. The status quo has already been determined, I doubt they are going to roll backwards on their policies toward emissions or those that violate them.
 
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