Detroit 2009: Volkswagen Bluesport concept, turbodiesel done right

[TornadoRed]

The vw sportscar is using angular lines out of curved panels.
I say get the dam angles out anf round out everything for better surface aerodynamics.

The Bluesport is beautiful, however. Sportscars must be beautiful, otherwise no one will buy them. Beauty first, aerodynamics later, otherwise all cars would be shaped like raindrops.

 

[SBAtdijetta]

The Bluesport is beautiful, however. Sportscars must be beautiful, otherwise no one will buy them. Beauty first, aerodynamics later, otherwise all cars would be shaped like raindrops.

Ditto and sports cars can still be very aerodynamic and look good at the same time.

 

[greenhumanjames]

two words "totally awesome". that will be a hot car, it will have a chance to cut into alot of the roadster market, boxster, s2000, mx6, and the sky.

 

[bhtooefr]

And now that I've seen this car in person... this is a car that, given the money, I would buy.

 

[SubseaFB]

Top 10 cars at the Detroit Auto show

Top 10 Cars at Detroit Auto Show

Volkswagen BlueSport

Boasting a top speed of 140 mph while managing to get a claimed 55 mpg on the highway, this turbocharged 2.0-liter diesel concept puts out 180 horsepower and 258 lb-ft of torque at just 1750 rpm. Coupled to a 6-speed double-clutch transmission, the TDI engine launches to 60 mph in 6.2 seconds. Vehicle weight is kept to a minimum (2,600 lbs) through extensive use of aluminum and other lightweight materials.


Besides Mercedes, it seems as if VW is the only company forging ahead with diesel technology here in the US and having faith that the American public will finally see the light.....(hesistate for moment of blinding light and angelic chorus). Now if they' just make that totally awesome Audi R8 affordable. Anybody have a used one for sale?

 

[German_1er_diesel]

Volkswagen USA - press releases done wrong

Have a look at this:
http://media.vw.com/article_download.cfm?article_id=10435

This is Volkswagen's own press release, and it proves that Volkswagen USA either doesn't own or can't operate a calculator.

A few gems:

Fuel consumption: an average of 42 mpg / 4,3 l/100 km (combined;
Highway: up to 50 mpg); less than any other sports car. Positioning:
genuine, low-emissions roadster (113 g/km CO2) that makes every
kilometer, every mile a driving experience

113 g/km in a diesel means 4,3 l/100km. BUT 4.3 l/100km is 54.7 mpg (US), NOT 42 mpg.

exceptional 42 mph fuel economy

And if I want to go faster that 42 mph?

With a fuel tank volume of 50 liters and the noted fuel economy of 42 mpg (consumption of 4.3 liters per 100 kilometers), the theoretical range is greater than 710 miles (1,150 kilometers).

Let’s see… 50 liters is 13.2 gallons, so if it got 42 mpg it would have a range of 555 miles. Don't they check the numbers? Don't they read their own press releases before posting?

Apparently not.

 

[VeeDubTDI]

This was an incredible looking car. If they sold it right now, I'd buy it right now.

 

[VeeDubTDI]

Have a look at this:
http://media.vw.com/article_download.cfm?article_id=10435

This is Volkswagen's own press release, and it proves that Volkswagen USA either doesn't own or can't operate a calculator.

A few gems:

Fuel consumption: an average of 42 mpg / 4,3 l/100 km (combined;
Highway: up to 50 mpg); less than any other sports car. Positioning:
genuine, low-emissions roadster (113 g/km CO2) that makes every
kilometer, every mile a driving experience

113 g/km in a diesel means 4,3 l/100km. BUT 4.3 l/100km is 54.7 mpg (US), NOT 42 mpg.

exceptional 42 mph fuel economy

And if I want to go faster that 42 mph?

With a fuel tank volume of 50 liters and the noted fuel economy of 42 mpg (consumption of 4.3 liters per 100 kilometers), the theoretical range is greater than 710 miles (1,150 kilometers).

Let’s see… 50 liters is 13.2 gallons, so if it got 42 mpg it would have a range of 555 miles. Don't they check the numbers? Don't they read their own press releases before posting?

Apparently not.

I wish I could say that I'm surprised by VW's failure at mathematics, but I'm really not. If they knew how to do math, they would know that offering a Polo TDI here would fill their little purse with cash very quickly.

 

[Harvieux]

Sh!t, I'm still waiting for the ACC pick-em-up! Later!

 

[adjat84th]

two words "totally awesome". that will be a hot car, it will have a chance to cut into alot of the roadster market, boxster, s2000, mx6, and the sky.

This just reminded me that I still have my MX-6...sits in the garage most of the time. Almost forgot it was there, hehe.

 

[bhtooefr]

And, I didn't know Mazda still sold the MX-6, or that it was a roadster.

(MX-6 = 626-based FWD sporty coupe, MX-5 = RWD roadster. )

 

[VeeDubTDI]

Shut up toof!

 

[adjat84th]

And, I didn't know Mazda still sold the MX-6, or that it was a roadster.

(MX-6 = 626-based FWD sporty coupe, MX-5 = RWD roadster. )

Still a fun car to drive nonetheless...especially when pushing around 200hp.

 

[bhtooefr]

Not saying it isn't, just pointing out that it's not in the roadster market.

(And, is yours the V6? That V6 does sound pretty good... (especially after putting ITBs on it, but even without.))

 

[adjat84th]

V6, yes. ITBs, no. Megasquirt, yes

 

[SBAtdijetta]

Don't they read their own press releases before posting?

Apparently not.

Funny, but sad at the same time...

I would still buy one though...

 

[LiLredTDI]

Intersting article/ TT like TDI VW concept

Here is a link from Road & Track. I dont plan on ever seeing this in North Amehttp://autos.yahoo.com/auto-shows/detroit_auto_show_2009/813/Volkswagen-Concept-BlueSportrica, but ya never know.............ENJOY !

 

[TornadoRed]

Here is a link from Road & Track. I dont plan on ever seeing this in North Amehttp://autos.yahoo.com/auto-shows/detroit_auto_show_2009/813/Volkswagen-Concept-BlueSportrica, but ya never know.............ENJOY !

Let me make this easier:
http://autos.yahoo.com/auto-shows/detroit_auto_show_2009/813/Volkswagen-Concept-BlueSport

 

[Marley]

Needs a roof, like the MR2s before Toyota ruined them with the boxer concept. Its a roof thing, not a removable hardtop either.

 

[Rob_from_Elkmont]

Sounds great in the video on this page. You can hear the turbo whine.

http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/volkswagen/36623/

Rob

 

[undata]

VWoA, or A?

I would put my money on this car seeing production - and soon.

Let's not forget that the last time the world went into a super-funk, Porsche sales ground to a halt....except the 924 that they had just taken over when VW chickened out. That car saved Porsche from extinction, and put them on the road to today. I doubt anyone at Porsche had forgotten this, and all realize that a Boxster/Cayman is really a 914-like car that is just 911 parts in a better package - not a low-cost car. One man's niche is another man's mass market. VW gets it by default (and dumps in the 2.0 CRD for our pleasure).

The real problem isn't VW, it's VWoA. They are singularly more able to screw up getting decent models and options than even worldwide economic or petroleum upheavals.

It's not just VW. We don't get good anything. Mazda gives us tiny Japanese jewels with hideous 2.3 L engines, we get V8 Mercedes instead of Inline sixes.

It's our screwy legal system. We can't (legally) have drugs, can't have sex. We get high-perfomance leaf blowers and huge power-to-weight ratios in our cars.

 

[bhtooefr]

"Hideous?"

You do realize, the European versions have 1.6 and 2.0 L versions of the same engines? (And, actually, the one Japanese, rather than Japanese-built-British, jewel that they send us that actually has a piston engine... is 2.0 L only for our version. )

And, that 2.0 L engine... Cosworth can take it to 260 hp without forced induction.

The Duratec 4-cyl is definitely a good engine.

(Granted, 2.0 and 2.2 L diesels are in the Mazda3, too, but...)

 

[undata]

I meant hideously overpowered

"Hideous?"

You do realize, the European versions have 1.6 and 2.0 L versions of the same engines? (And, actually, the one Japanese, rather than Japanese-built-British, jewel that they send us that actually has a piston engine... is 2.0 L only for our version. )

And, that 2.0 L engine... Cosworth can take it to 260 hp without forced induction.

The Duratec 4-cyl is definitely a good engine.

(Granted, 2.0 and 2.2 L diesels are in the Mazda3, too, but...)

Do we agree, a mazda 3 does not require a 2.3 L engine? Two Liters is More than enough for this size vehicle. We typically get only one engine choice on these imports. Why would that be? Answer:

U.S. driving habits have not changed since 30 cent/gallon gasoline, it's pedal to the metal, first the accelator and then the brake. Even truck drivers drove this way on $4 gallon diesel!

 

[bhtooefr]

I'll agree that the 2.3 is WAY overkill for most driving situations. (Even through an automatic. (I have actually driven a 2.3 L automatic Mazda3...))

And, actually, here, it's not accelerator then brake. It's going on an entrance ramp at 35 MPH until the very end, then going for WOT to merge.

Maddening, when you get behind some old fart that doesn't understand that a 52 hp diesel CAN'T MERGE LIKE THAT. I sometimes resorted to passing on the shoulder or using the breakdown "lane" as more acceleration room. Or, if they weren't going to accelerate, gluing myself to their bumper to take advantage of the gap they're going to merge into, and putting 2 cars in a 1 car gap, then once I could accelerate, get the hell away from them.

 

[undata]

I'll agree that the 2.3 is WAY overkill for most driving situations. (Even through an automatic. (I have actually driven a 2.3 L automatic Mazda3...))

And, actually, here, it's not accelerator then brake. It's going on an entrance ramp at 35 MPH until the very end, then going for WOT to merge.

Maddening, when you get behind some old fart that doesn't understand that a 52 hp diesel CAN'T MERGE LIKE THAT. I sometimes resorted to passing on the shoulder or using the breakdown "lane" as more acceleration room. Or, if they weren't going to accelerate, gluing myself to their bumper to take advantage of the gap they're going to merge into, and putting 2 cars in a 1 car gap, then once I could accelerate, get the hell away from them.

Right. Syndrome 1 is NY City (pedal to metal). Syndrome 2 is Midwest ( Q: Why did you stop in the merge lane? A: I wanted to see if there were any cars coming... OF COURSE THERE ARE CARS COMING - IT'S A FREEWAY, YOU NUMNUTS!)

 

[bhtooefr]

Ohio's not quite that bad, they just don't accelerate on the ramps.

I found Washington, PA hilarious when I was driving through last March, though.

I was driving along in the right lane. The lane to the left of me was clear. I was coming up on an entrance ramp, and saw a line of cars... so I moved over to let them in... and I was the only car in the right lane, so now it was completely empty.

And a freakin' beige Camry comes to a complete stop at the end of this ramp that IMMEDIATELY merges into the freeway. What a freakin' idiot. I think that's the first time in my life that I thought, "thank god I made it to West Virginia."

 

[donfromnaples]

Florida has a big mixture of driving styles from retirees to illegals without licenses and all people who are from all 50 states who are just visiting or just moved here. Mostly, it is slower driving than up North. The one universal down in Florida is that everyone crawls passed an accident - weird.

 

[J double R]

The one universal down in Florida is that everyone crawls passed an accident - weird.

rubbernecking, as it were, is a nationwide problem.

in some areas, just a police cruiser on the side of the road with his lights on is enough to create a snarl, incident or not.

that said..

i want that car.

 

[khale]

Technology in Motion: Volkswagen Concept BlueSport

Wouldn't this be cool to have.....


Technology in Motion: Volkswagen Concept BlueSport

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=7910

 

[Peter Cheuk]

I'd get one.