Delete auto-locking feature?

[T5TDI]

I don't mean the one that locks the doors at 5 MPH, but the one that re-locks your doors if you don't pull open one of them.

The same one that locks your keys inside if you own a van since the rear doors don't count as a door being opened. I have vag-com but I can't find any coding change that will delete it. I've searched everywhere I can think of and I think I am stuck with this feature. Please some kind soul tell me I'm not!

 

[T5TDI]

For anyone else searching the answer is no as far as anyone knows.

 

[KROUT]

You can turn it off with vagcom. At least on some models you can.

 

[T5TDI]

You can turn it off with vagcom. At least on some models you can.

Do you have the info to do it? If you do, you are the only one! Since I posted I even asked Ross-Tech and they think it's probably not possible.

I'd love to be able to get rid of it. It's a good idea on a car with a trunk, but on a van with a tailgate (that's a single rear door) I'm not sure what you guys call it, it's a receipe for locking your keys inside. It's even possible to double lock yourself inside and have to break glass to get out!

 

[compu_85]

I don't know of a way to disable the auto re-lock if you don't open a door.

It's interesting it doesn't count the rear doors on the alarm. Are you sure the door switches are working right?

-Jason

 

[T5TDI]

Thanks for your replies guys I have checked all the switches with vag-com. The tailgate does set off the alarm as it should but it doesn't cancel the re-lock in the way the front and side doors do.

I think what it's doing is counting the tailgate as a trunk. I suppose folks like to get their golf clubs out of the trunk and know it will re-lock if they forget to do it. But with a van it's quite a common thing to unlock and head straight for your tools or whatever without opening the driver's door first. Then, if you are stupid enough (and I am!) to put your keys inside and shut the tailgate they are locked in.

Someone (VW tech) that he thought it was a Thatcham (alarm spec) requirement in which case I suppose VW don't want you to alter it.

 

[deezay]

i found this in the sticky at the top... as posted by pepper10.. i haven't tried it yet to verify that it works... but i will tomorrow..

I had the same problem. You have 2 options: cancel the auto lock or have th edoors unlock when you remove the key.
Lock/Unlock Horn/Flash:

[Select]
[46 - Cent. Conv.] (35 - Cent. Locking for manual window cars)
[Adaptation - 10]
Channel (03..08)
Adaptation Value (1 = on, 0 = off)
[Save]

Channel 03 Auto Lock set to 0 to cancel auto lock
Channel 04 Auto Unlock Set to 1 to unlock by removing key from ignition
Channel 05 Unlock, horn sounds
Channel 06 Lock, horn sounds
Channel 07 Unlock, turn signals flash
Channel 08 Lock, turn signals flash


i hope it works! adios!

 

[wolfsburg_de]

i found this in the sticky at the top... as posted by pepper10.. i haven't tried it yet to verify that it works... but i will tomorrow..

Not the same thing:

I don't mean the one that locks the doors at 5 MPH,

 

[L0o0ky]

Well, being pretty much a newb, I can't tell you how it was done.

I do know that when I took my car to the dealer to get a second key (I now know there are much better ways to do it) whatever they did disabled the autolock. This might vary based on model etc....

I can attest to it being possible (YMMV), just can't tell you how it was done.

 

[KROUT]

It is done with vagcom. You can turn the auto lock off as well as the auto lock at 5mph. I dont have the procedure But I have done it on my cars.

 

[cvalentine]

According to Sebastian, it's not possible: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3351221

But, it might be possible to change it using VDS-Pro to reprogram to the CCM. I just haven't seen it documented anywhere.

 

[DrMarc]

Is my car the only car that locks itself even if you open a door... Unless you get the key in the ignition and turned within about 30 seconds of unlocking via the fob. Its reallllly anoying, i'm forever honking at passers-by when the car locks because i didn't get the key in, in time. I'm gonna try that vag-com code above later...

Its also funny, because, conversly to the van, if i unlock, and then pop the hatch and open the hatch, the car will then remain unlocked... Until i close the hatch and then it will lock everything. Honking at passersby again, followed by me swearing when i realized the key is in back

 

[NarfBLAST]

auto lock disable successfully but hatch autolock disable not possible

Is my car the only car that locks itself even if you open a door... Unless you get the key in the ignition and turned within about 30 seconds of unlocking via the fob. Its reallllly anoying, i'm forever honking at passers-by when the car locks because i didn't get the key in, in time. I'm gonna try that vag-com code above later...

Its also funny, because, conversly to the van, if i unlock, and then pop the hatch and open the hatch, the car will then remain unlocked... Until i close the hatch and then it will lock everything. Honking at passersby again, followed by me swearing when i realized the key is in back

My car does the exact same thing! Do you notice that also the lights to do not come on when you open the driver door but they do come one when opening the other doors? On my car (and I suspect yours too) the "driver door open" sensor is dead. So that car doesn't know that you have opened the driver door, after 30 seconds the alarm re-arms and when you try to start the car with the alarm armed it goes off.

My work arounds are: open the drivers rear door after disarming the alarm to keep the alarm off.
and
to make sure the alarm is disarmed: get in the habbit of pressing the unlock button on the keyfob just before inserting the key in the igintion.

I guess I could just get the darn door fixed but that would cost money!

I have done the VAG-COM auto lock delete and I like it alot because when I arrive at my destination my doors are still unlocked and I get my children out of the back seats without having to reach for the unlock. Doors do not need to be locked for safety while driving unless you are afraid of car-jackers!

I would also be interested in disabling the hatch autolock because it would be nice to be able to use the handle to open the hatch without having to hold the key fob for 2 seconds every fricking time! The only way I think this could be done is if it were mechanically rigged some how... I may try this since I broke my lock asm trying un sieeze it and It is sort of held together with plastic zip ties right now anyway. The hatch coujld be rigged with a popper and delete the handle for that smooth shaved handle look. Anyone tried this?

- Narf

 

[vwlogue]

Hatch unlock with driver door unlock

 

[NarfBLAST]

Hatch unlock with driver door unlock

That is cool! If I understand correctly with that setup when you unlock the driver door a signal goes to the hatch unlock button... but after 60 seconds the hatch will still relock? Also everytime you close the hatch it locks? Being able to unlock it with a quick click of the unlock button (instead of holding that annoying hatch button) sounds pretty cool... but...

I think we are still looking for a way to unlock the hatch and leave it unlocked indefinetly (even if you open and close it) until you are ready to lock the whole car up again by pressing the lock button?

- Narf

 

[spiceredwagon]

Thats a brilliant fix thanks for posting it. For a car that costs about $10000.00 more than others in its peer group we should not have to screw around like this to fix stupid design issues. I managed to shut the annoying ding dong chimes off by setting the instrument cluster to european coding. Now I don't get the urge to yell at my car "I know, I know, shut the &#$* up".

 

[T5TDI]

Well I've just about given up trying to fix what must just be a silly oversight by VW. It's fine on the cars but silly on a van with a tailgate. I wonder how long it will take them to fix it?

Thanks for your clarification Andy.

 

[ReferenceDesign]

Is my car the only car that locks itself even if you open a door... Unless you get the key in the ignition and turned within about 30 seconds of unlocking via the fob. Its reallllly anoying, i'm forever honking at passers-by when the car locks because i didn't get the key in, in time. I'm gonna try that vag-com code above later...

DrMarc and NarfBlast

Your drivers door switch is bad. Leave your door open and try locking the car with the remote. If it works you need to replace the door switch. They all go bad sooner or later. The reason your car re-locks after 30 seconds even when you get in is because it never saw you get in! It thinks it was a random open request or a pocket change mistake and relocks for security. It is very easy to set off the alarm in this mode too.

Cj