CV or not to be

[John Wesley Hardin]

Started noticing a little chirp every now and then when I hit a bump or street reflector. It got progressively worse. Today while engaging in a road rage incident (not my fault ) I had to back down, something was a clicking and a clattering for the last mile to my destination after I evaded the angry redneck in a Ford 3500 Dually who was trying to run me off the road and squish me into a guard rail. Anyways I crawled under the driver side wheel and noticed a metal CV boot clamp that was hanging loose on the axle ! Dont know where that came from cause there is a clamp on the end of the boot already. Reached to the back of the CV boot and pulled the back metal clamp right off the boot it was broken and just pulled straight off.
Rut Roe. Obviously the rubber boots have deteriorated.
I vaguely recall someone recently mentioned on the Forum they reused their existing CV joints and didnt replace with new . Gimme a shout out on that one.
Also any suggestions on brand new or quality CV joints in this day of defective replacement parts ?
Drive Friendly- the Texas way !

 

[turbodieseldyke]

Maybe someone put a 2nd clamp on there because the 1st one wasn't cutting the mustard. If the noise was only coming from the loose clamp, then refill the boot with grease & put another clamp on it.

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Maybe someone put a 2nd clamp on there because the 1st one wasn't cutting the mustard. If the noise was only coming from the loose clamp, then refill the boot with grease & put another clamp on it.

Thanks for the reply . Its easy to over think the solutions, when sometimes it can be an easy fix. Thats a great Idea. I'll try that if the boot will pull over which it should. Love ya man!

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Maybe someone put a 2nd clamp on there because the 1st one wasn't cutting the mustard. If the noise was only coming from the loose clamp, then refill the boot with grease & put another clamp on it.

Wondering if they make a two piece rubber boot you can install w/o removing the axle ?

 

[Windex]

nope

 

[Prairieview]

And what are you going to do about the grit and sh t that has managed to get into the now exposed joint/partially exposed joint?

Push away from the keyboard, pull your axles, disassemble the joints and wash them in gas or solvent, inspect them for wear and/or cage cracking, place new boots on the axles, re-assemble joints and good cv joint grease, carefully attach and tighten new clamps and put the axles back on the car (after cleaning all the residual grease).

The task is NOT brain surgery and is more of a matter of determination than anything else. GKN-brand boots/clamps have been working for me for over 30 years.

Grow a couple hairs....get with the program.
Performing good maintenance will give you a sense of accomplishment and cut down on all the whining. No....really.

 

[P2B]

Wondering if they make a two piece rubber boot you can install w/o removing the axle ?

nope

Yep - split rather than two pieces... not that I would recommend them

Bailcast CVS18 Universal Split Constant Velocity Joint Gaiter Boot Replacement Kit, Black

Amazon.ca

 

[CantWrite]

I just replaced a LH Inner CV joint, used a Metelli, what garbage, soon as I lowered it off the jack, put it in reverse, crunch.....1st gear, crunch again.

saved the boot, cage was in pieces. Cleaned and Reused the old joint.

 

[rocky raccoon]

" Today while engaging in a road rage incident (not my fault ) I had to back down, ......"

He's at it again.

 

[Zak99b5]

Well worth it to pull the axle and clean up the joints. Then you can inspect and replace them if needed; get GKN. Fresh grease, new boots, and motor on.

I recently removed and disassembled my outer joint. Scoring on the faces where the balls ride, and pitting on the balls, so I replaced it. Just for fun I tried to reassemble it, but I couldn’t figure out how to do it. So when we were working on my son's axle, I left that outer joint together and cleaned it with brake cleaner. Everything I could see looked fine on it, so we just used a new boot kit. The inner joints are easy to reassemble.

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

" Today while engaging in a road rage incident (not my fault ) I had to back down, ......"

He's at it again.

Well I might exaggerate from time to time . Ive become a kinder and gentler JWH since joining the Forum

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Yep - split rather than two pieces... not that I would recommend them

Bailcast CVS18 Universal Split Constant Velocity Joint Gaiter Boot Replacement Kit, Black

Amazon.ca

 

[jmodge]

Step #1; Go to Walmart, get duct tape, head to the self checkout, grab as many bags as you can and run out the door (pay first if you're that kind of person).
Step #2; (forgot grease, maybe slather some up from roadkill on way home) Grease joints, leaving dirt in will help surfaces lap together thus increasing the ability to handle torque during instances of no fault Texas road rage.
Step #3; With great care and precision encase said joints with plastic bags and seal ends with duct tape.

I can not overemphasize the use of quality materials and the cleanliness of surfaces the duct tape adheres to.

 

[GlowBugTDI]

Step #1; Go to Walmart, get duct tape, head to the self checkout, grab as many bags as you can and run out the door (pay first if you're that kind of person).
Step #2; (forgot grease, maybe slather some up from roadkill on way home) Grease joints, leaving dirt in will help surfaces lap together thus increasing the ability to handle torque during instances of no fault Texas road rage.
Step #3; With great care and precision encase said joints with plastic bags and seal ends with duct tape.

I can not overemphasize the use of quality materials and the cleanliness of surfaces the duct tape adheres to.

I can't tell just to what degree you are joking around and being sarcastic, but I love it!!
I legitimately got away with this for a year or two on my car once (until i sold the car). I didn't use bags though. I just duct taped the entire boot sealing everything inside. Worked great, looked aweful. In fact my camry still has duct tape steering rack boots 2yrs on those too.

JWH. Pro tip: Make sure to wrap the duct tape to the back of the car so that when the cv is spinning at roadkill velocities it doesn't start to come apart and get caught on stuff. It will instead keep itself stuck together.

 

[boertje]

Wondering if they make a two piece rubber boot you can install w/o removing the axle ?

I actually did this long ago to my ‘85 mazda 2.0 diesel. It worked for many years. Wouldn’t do that today anymore.

 

[jokila]

Started noticing a little chirp every now and then when I hit a bump or street reflector. It got progressively worse. Today while engaging in a road rage incident (not my fault ) I had to back down, something was a clicking and a clattering for the last mile to my destination after I evaded the angry redneck in a Ford 3500 Dually who was trying to run me off the road and squish me into a guard rail. Anyways I crawled under the driver side wheel and noticed a metal CV boot clamp that was hanging loose on the axle ! Dont know where that came from cause there is a clamp on the end of the boot already. Reached to the back of the CV boot and pulled the back metal clamp right off the boot it was broken and just pulled straight off.
Rut Roe. Obviously the rubber boots have deteriorated.
I vaguely recall someone recently mentioned on the Forum they reused their existing CV joints and didnt replace with new . Gimme a shout out on that one.
Also any suggestions on brand new or quality CV joints in this day of defective replacement parts ?
Drive Friendly- the Texas way !

Left side is easiest to deal with as everything can be done without having to hardly go under the car. Assuming the joint is still good buy this kit. https://www.idparts.com/boot-kit-inner-left-febi-alh-manual-1j0498201-101119-p-14926.html

You could buy this and replace the entire joint. https://www.idparts.com/inner-joint...telli-alh-manual-1j0498103a-1010d-p-2936.html
They are high quality parts.

I will guarantee you will not be able to locally source a joint kit. You could go dumber and buy the local store's crappy full axle offerings and likely replace them a lot.

 

[jmodge]

I can't tell just to what degree you are joking around and being sarcastic, but I love it!!
I legitimately got away with this for a year or two on my car once (until i sold the car). I didn't use bags though. I just duct taped the entire boot sealing everything inside. Worked great, looked aweful. In fact my camry still has duct tape steering rack boots 2yrs on those too.

JWH. Pro tip: Make sure to wrap the duct rape to the back of the car so that when the cv is spinning at roadkill velocities it doesn't start to come apart and get caught on stuff. It will instead keep itself stuck together.

Good point on the direction tip, I neglected to add that. JWH needs all the tips on direction that can be garnered.

4th of July weekend, about 13 years ago, I blew an exhaust bellow on my deck boat while pulling the kids on tubes. No choice but to engineer a multi ply weave of duct tape, it's still holding. Gotta take advantage of the stockroom.

 

[jmodge]

Don't use the cheap crap named Duck Tape, it's a ripoff

 

[turbodieseldyke]

Gorilla tape peels like a banana.

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Gorilla tape peels like a banana.

Gorilla tape works well on Prairie Poos mouth though

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Left side is easiest to deal with as everything can be done without having to hardly go under the car. Assuming the joint is still good buy this kit. https://www.idparts.com/boot-kit-inner-left-febi-alh-manual-1j0498201-101119-p-14926.html

You could buy this and replace the entire joint. https://www.idparts.com/inner-joint...telli-alh-manual-1j0498103a-1010d-p-2936.html
They are high quality parts.

I will guarantee you will not be able to locally source a joint kit. You could go dumber and buy the local store's crappy full axle offerings and likely replace them a lot.

Exactly my point. I dont want to just jump into it trying to repair something then find out , I need replacement. Im Third World living down here. Your right local auto parts have junk to sell, so thats not an option.
I misspoke earlier. I thought the clamps were on the CV axle. Actually it was the boot on the steering arms. My bad.
I was gonna make a short drive today but had to turn back. So much clattering and rotational noise I woke the local Crackheads up !
I crawled under the passenger side this time and grabbed the CV axle and was able to move it back and forth horizontally it was very loose.
So at this point Im thinking CV axle replacement

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Good point on the direction tip, I neglected to add that. JWH needs all the tips on direction that can be garnered.

4th of July weekend, about 13 years ago, I blew an exhaust bellow on my deck boat while pulling the kids on tubes. No choice but to engineer a multi ply weave of duct tape, it's still holding. Gotta take advantage of the stockroom.

Good point on the direction tip, I neglected to add that. JWH needs all the tips on direction that can be garnered.

4th of July weekend, about 13 years ago, I blew an exhaust bellow on my deck boat while pulling the kids on tubes. No choice but to engineer a multi ply weave of duct tape, it's still holding. Gotta take advantage of the stockroom.

Thats what I do with my toilet paper . You finally did get something right this time. Duct tape is the repair of choice in South Texas

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Step #1; Go to Walmart, get duct tape, head to the self checkout, grab as many bags as you can and run out the door (pay first if you're that kind of person).
Step #2; (forgot grease, maybe slather some up from roadkill on way home) Grease joints, leaving dirt in will help surfaces lap together thus increasing the ability to handle torque during instances of no fault Texas road rage.
Step #3; With great care and precision encase said joints with plastic bags and seal ends with duct tape.

I can not overemphasize the use of quality materials and the cleanliness of surfaces the duct tape adheres to.

Would you like to add anything to that?

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

And what are you going to do about the grit and sh t that has managed to get into the now exposed joint/partially exposed joint?

Push away from the keyboard, pull your axles, disassemble the joints and wash them in gas or solvent, inspect them for wear and/or cage cracking, place new boots on the axles, re-assemble joints and good cv joint grease, carefully attach and tighten new clamps and put the axles back on the car (after cleaning all the residual grease).

The task is NOT brain surgery and is more of a matter of determination than anything else. GKN-brand boots/clamps have been working for me for over 30 years.

Grow a couple hairs....get with the program.
Performing good maintenance will give you a sense of accomplishment and cut down on all the whining. No....really.

Look there Prairie Poo my keyboard is behind a welding hood 8-10 hours a day 5-6 days a week. Right now its 110 degrees in the shade right now.. Am I whining hell yeah! I would rather perform brain surgery, any volunteers?

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Maybe someone put a 2nd clamp on there because the 1st one wasn't cutting the mustard. If the noise was only coming from the loose clamp, then refill the boot with grease & put another clamp on it.

Will have to abort the boot. Bad clamps were on the steering arm not the CV axle . Grabbed the right CV axle and it moved considerably back and forth horizontally.
I thought the clamps flopping around was the source of the noise. So much rotational clatter now Im pretty sure CV axles need to be replaced.

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Yep - split rather than two pieces... not that I would recommend them

Bailcast CVS18 Universal Split Constant Velocity Joint Gaiter Boot Replacement Kit, Black

Amazon.ca

I saw that. Looks like Im going to have to replace the CV axles . Any suggestions on what brand is a good replacement . GKN ? Those are pretty pricey.

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Left side is easiest to deal with as everything can be done without having to hardly go under the car. Assuming the joint is still good buy this kit. https://www.idparts.com/boot-kit-inner-left-febi-alh-manual-1j0498201-101119-p-14926.html

You could buy this and replace the entire joint. https://www.idparts.com/inner-joint...telli-alh-manual-1j0498103a-1010d-p-2936.html
They are high quality parts.

I will guarantee you will not be able to locally source a joint kit. You could go dumber and buy the local store's crappy full axle offerings and likely replace them a lot.

Thanks I will check that link out you sendt. IM pretty sure I need CV axle replacement . Just want to get the right ones

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Yep - split rather than two pieces... not that I would recommend them

Bailcast CVS18 Universal Split Constant Velocity Joint Gaiter Boot Replacement Kit, Black

Amazon.ca

I want to get the whole CV axle left and right .

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

Step #1; Go to Walmart, get duct tape, head to the self checkout, grab as many bags as you can and run out the door (pay first if you're that kind of person).
Step #2; (forgot grease, maybe slather some up from roadkill on way home) Grease joints, leaving dirt in will help surfaces lap together thus increasing the ability to handle torque during instances of no fault Texas road rage.
Step #3; With great care and precision encase said joints with plastic bags and seal ends with duct tape.

I can not overemphasize the use of quality materials and the cleanliness of surfaces the duct tape adheres to.

Funny you mentioned road kill. There was a time when I was trapping if I came across fresh road kill like a Coon I would pick it up and skin it.

 

[John Wesley Hardin]

And what are you going to do about the grit and sh t that has managed to get into the now exposed joint/partially exposed joint?

Push away from the keyboard, pull your axles, disassemble the joints and wash them in gas or solvent, inspect them for wear and/or cage cracking, place new boots on the axles, re-assemble joints and good cv joint grease, carefully attach and tighten new clamps and put the axles back on the car (after cleaning all the residual grease).

The task is NOT brain surgery and is more of a matter of determination than anything else. GKN-brand boots/clamps have been working for me for over 30 years.

Grow a couple hairs....get with the program.
Performing good maintenance will give you a sense of accomplishment and cut down on all the whining. No....really.

Just got back from a huge Trump boat parade on the Intercoastal . It went from Cove Harbor to Aransas Passhole . Hundreds of boats. We probably rode with them about 10 miles . What a great experience