Crazy Brake Life on the MK7

nectarguru

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I heard that the MK7 brakes have a long life, but it didn't really register with me until today. I picked up my car after having a tire balancing and alignment to correct some vibration, and I asked the service advisor if they checked my brakes. He gave me the measurement (which I forgot) and said they're practically brand new still. I said that's insane because I have 104k miles on the clock. He said there's no way those are the stock brakes, but I reassured him. I don't baby my car or brakes anymore, and overall I'd consider myself an average driver, so I'm very surprised that they wouldn't have significant wear by now. Kudos to VW!!
 

oilhammer

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Hi. Welcome to a 15 years ago. Old news. :p Nothing has changed.

Some of my customers have gone nearly 300k miles on original brakes. My 2004 Passat went 200k, and they were not even completely worn out. Proper driving habits, lots of highway miles, etc. will allow them a very long service life.

In your neck of the woods, it is far more likely the brake pads will need to be serviced from the effects of road salt long before the linings are actually worn out.

What is somewhat disturbing to me is that an automotive professional didn't know this about your car, and seemed shocked. Clearly he/she doesn't know Volkswagens very well.
 
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KITEWAGON

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Our Touareg which weighs 5000 lbs and supposedly eats brakes went 100k on the fronts and over 140k on the rears.

Pretty sure my MK4 was on original front brakes at 190k miles when I sold it. That car goes through rears more quickly.

VW seems to have brakes pretty well figured out.
 

kjclow

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My 2000 beetle went through the rear rotors around 25k miles. Just after having it serviced at the VW garage. Last time they saw that car. Anyway, learned my lesson and started keeping a closer eye on the brakes. I replaced the fronts around 130k because I couldn't believe that they were still good. Traded the car around 150k. One set of front brakes and IIRC, three sets on the back. My 2010 JSW has about 140k on it right now and the brakes are still good. It's due for an oil change, so I'll get an update on "how good" at that time.
 

jtree

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The brakes pads on my 2016 wagon only last 15,000 miles, are you sure you are using them? I also only average 32 mpg so maybe it's the driver more than the car?
 
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The Tortoise

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I assume they last that long with frequent services. Should they be done annually?
 

tdi54

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Pads are amazingly long lasting, on my car I just changed the front pads at around 216K mileage, and as of now I am over 220K yet the original rear brake pads still don't seem to require changing them any time soon.
 

kjclow

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The brakes pads on my 2016 wagon only last 15,000 miles, are you sure you are using them? I also only average 32 mpg so maybe it's the driver more than the car?
No crumples in the front end, so I know she's not using other cars to slow down. :D
 

jtree

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No crumples in the front end, so I know she's not using other cars to slow down. :D
Ha! When I was a 16 year old runaway in the 80’s I drove a Datsun 510 from San Francisco to Miami with grinding brakes and no clutch after New Mexico, at one point the side mirror wobbled on one screw for hours before I fell off..
 

thundershorts

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brake pad manufacturers a very secretive about what goes into linings. VW uses trw as far as I know and the last set I put on had copper in them.
 

Geist296

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I am at 95k and just had my 100k done today because taking her to Wookies thursday...Mechanic said at 6mm plenty of pad life left...I think it is awesome, since my stoptech rotors are on back order
 

codyayrton

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My rear rotors have shown no measurable decrease in thickness over 18,346 miles.
My front rotors are both 0.06mm thinner over 18,346 miles.
My rear pads are a mean of 0.33mm thinner over 18,346 miles.
My front pads are a mean of 1.03mm thinner over 18,346 miles.
85% of my driving is highway/freeway.
I practice coasting up to stops to minimize brake use and maximize fuel mileage.
At this rate, the rear rotors should last forever, the front rotors should last 875,895 total miles, the rear pads should last 344,000 total miles, and the front pads should last 153,070 total miles.
 
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casioqv

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Does anyone know why this is? It seems like a fact for all versions of the Rabbit/Golf, I have a friend with an MK1 Rabbit that has lots of pad thickness left at 350k miles. At 200k my MKIV had about 50% left, but I replaced them anyway. Other European cars I've owned (e.g. Volvos) seem to use more or less the same brake component manufacturers, and also have a higher percentage of weight in the rear (which should increase pad life), yet the brakes last a tiny fraction of the time.

Because this is mysterious to me, I am always afraid that upgrading the brakes with "better" pads or rotors could break the "magic formula," and revert the car to normal car brake lifespan... but I upgrade anyway so I can tow a trailer in the mountains without stress.
 
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jtree

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Does anyone know why this is? It seems like a fact for all versions of the Rabbit/Golf, I have a friend with an MK1 Rabbit that has lots of pad thickness left at 350k miles. At 200k my MKIV had about 50% left, but I replaced them anyway. Other European cars I've owned (e.g. Volvos) seem to use more or less the same brake component manufacturers, and also have a higher percentage of weight in the rear (which should increase pad life), yet the brakes last a tiny fraction of the time.

Because this is mysterious to me, I am always afraid that upgrading the brakes with "better" pads or rotors could break the "magic formula," and revert the car to normal car brake lifespan... but I upgrade anyway so I can tow a trailer in the mountains without stress.
It's hypermiling by TDI owners, not super life brakes. I had a MK7 Golf R and got 15-20k out of brake pads, the same I get out of my TDI wagon. I also got 15-20k on my NA miata and and e46 M3.
 

turbobrick240

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They're just good quality brakes. I'm nearly completely incapable of hypermiling, and my Golfs brakes lasted twice as long as previous vehicles. Rear pads at 100k, front pads at 130k, and all factory rotors in place when I sold it at 175k.
 
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